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RYE vs WBS
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i know someone asks about once a week what the "best" substrate is, but my friend insists on rye berries, but my dog has been to every store in a major city that would possibly carry them and they either dont carry them or have recently discontinued them. Yet a quick trip to home depot or the pet store yeilds a 20lb bag of wbs for next to nothing. Given optimal growing conditions is one better than the other? Is there anything that may be in certain types of birdseed to avoid? thanks for any advice


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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wbs works fine. many prefer rye, but if you can't find it in your area, just get wbs.


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: buckeye]
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gracias, will do


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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o yea, is any wbs ok or should i avoid certain ingredients?


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26004


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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The most suited & productive "substrate" is custom compost. Next, IMHO would be aged leached horse manure/straw, followed by aged leached cow manure/straw.

Most towns have some sort of Feed & Seed stores - have you tried them - for rye? Be carefull of some WBS. You don't want any type treated with any "fungicide", or 'birdkote".

Petco has a brand called "Bird Basics" for about $8 for 40 lbs.

My foaf over the years has used more than a ton of it - without failure, as spawn to compost, or horse/cow/straw manure.

Most towns have horse stables "somewhere". IMHO, horse manure / strawnwill serve you better than rye, or WBS as a substrate.


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: agar]
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From experience Rye kicks WBS ass hands down everytime. I contribute it to superior nutrient availability.


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: hyphae]
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Does that play a big role when spawning to bulk?


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: MushroomFriend]
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conerning bulk u want AS MANY inoculation points as possible,
a clear advantage of WBS/MILLET due to the smaller kernel size.

rye is great for straight casing though.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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Thanks, I figured that... :wink: Needed confirmation.

I think I skip the straight casings. Maybe later, but I have a good feeling bout the poo! :thumbup:

Actually WBS is cheaper for me and sold very nearby as well so.... :P

edit: answer was meant for OHM PEACE :laugh:


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Edited by MushroomFriend (01/09/05 05:55 PM)

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: MushroomFriend]
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I've always had much better luck breaking up rye into individual kernals whereas WBS likes to "clump" much more IME. I prefer rye for spawn as you can see.


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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LOL ive spawned WBS ONCE, and it was very easy crumbled into almost individual kernals.
100% succes! :lol:

edit: shit answer was meant for Hyphae, he whats wrong with me! ? :P


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Edited by MushroomFriend (01/09/05 06:00 PM)

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: MushroomFriend]
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Hey agar, how do you leech poo?

Got some links concerning all of your substrates? I try poo and straw...don't mean to sound like a lazy sack of shit, but everyone knows that you've got some of the best links =)


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For the sake of those seeking knowledge.
I've provided some in my signature.
Double Tek Pictorial
Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Soaking wbs - The Final Answer by Agar
50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss.

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: MushroomFriend]
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MushroomFriend said:
LOL ive spawned WBS ONCE, and it was very easy crumbled into almost individual kernals.
100% succes! :lol:

edit: shit answer was meant for Hyphae, he whats wrong with me! ? :P


I worked exclusively with WBS in bags (300+) and found this to be the case when doing G2G's I also noted it takes longer to fully colonize because of the higher amount of surface area which lead to the myc being tighter knit at least thats what I contributed it to. I do find it very interesting that you were able to break millet up so fine being as minute as it is. WTG!!! :wink:  :tongue:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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I use a REAL HIGH TEK method.... :wink:

Let is soak for a day or 2 & drain well.


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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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Yeah could be that rye colonises faster due to less surface.
You find it interesting? :tongue: Try harder Hyphae you can do it too! :laugh: Put a glove ON, take a piece of colonised wbs and crrrrrrrumble it! :thumbup:


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Edited by MushroomFriend (01/10/05 07:47 AM)

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: agar]
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agar said:
I use a REAL HIGH TEK method.... :wink:

Let is soak for a day or 2 & drain well.


what do we see in that pic?
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: MushroomFriend]
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MushroomFriend said:
Yeah could be that rye colonises faster due to less surface.
You find it interesting? :tongue: Try harder Hyphae you can do it too! :laugh: Put a glove ON, take a piece of colonised wbs and crrrrrrrumble it! :thumbup:


We we're comparing Rye to WBS right? :wink: Don't get me wrong I've done over 300 lg. mycobags of the stuff and I loved it, mostly it's cost effectiveness. This has just been my experience using the two nothing more :laugh: GL my friend


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: ohmatic]
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TOTE - POO - W/STRAW - WATER - CONCRETE BLOCK

If your poo is in hard dry clumps? Or, fresh & still smells of piss. Throw it in a tote, cover with fine chopped up wheat straw, add water & let both soak a day or 3. Concrete block keeps it from FLOATING.

DRAIN WELL & allow to air out a day or 3 on a screen (or whatever).

Piss smell (ammonia content) should be gone. :thumbup:

WARNING: DON"T SOAK SO LONG TOTE CONTENT STARTS TO ROT: or you get a SEWAGE SMELL - YOU WON'T LIKE - EITHER:


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Edited by agar (01/10/05 01:04 PM)

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Re: RYE vs WBS [Re: LengthyFellow]
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Hehe, but still you were interested in my crumbling skills werent you? :lol:
Actually the WBS is not only millet, there is also more solifd grain in like wheat and all kinds seeds.
Can imagine that rye is even easier to crumble but I hadnt any problems with the WBS! :P


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