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OfflineLegoulash
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Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    #1538942 - 05/11/03 01:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Iv tried growing many times with the PF tec. No success and iv wasted many hours and lots of money with no success.. Untill i tried one half pint jar of pop-corn, WBS and Verm mix..  I put the same amount of pop-corn and WBS mix (so it would be equal to BRF)  in a coffee grinder till it was a very fine powder. MIxed with teh Pf tecs amount of verm then added the same amount of water as the Pop-Wbs..  It was the only jar out of 13 that made it..  Teh other 12 were normal PF tec The tec that has failed me over 5 times..  IM soooo happy!!!!

toooo happy to make up an  alias.. But i know about teh cops meth lab so if tehy bust me, i bust tehm..  :cool: 


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1538962 - 05/11/03 02:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thats strange the PF tek has failed you multiple times....I have done it 3 times and only lost one jar in the process due to being water logged. Did yours get contaminated or something? also maybe next time grind your own BRF, I have found this works better(faster). peace.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1538984 - 05/11/03 02:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes Blue, Green and black contam.. And once with NO growth...after like 2 months.. AND i use a PC!!! Another question how long should i PC this new kind of PF Tec?? Iv always used Pint jars aswell... Except for this experiment cause i didnt think it would work.
So what do you think my problem could have been with all my failed jars? I did this jar a day after the other jars with 1cc of leftover solution. And the growth is soo fast and agresiv its growing over top of the loose verm layer and up the glass. And its not even 20% done!!


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1538990 - 05/11/03 02:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

How long did you PC in your failed PF attempts?


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Skikid16]
    #1539049 - 05/11/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I never liked brf teks, they always seemed to contam in some way, grain is a whole lot better ;]


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: tak_old]
    #1539065 - 05/11/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I pc'd Normal PF tec jars for 30-45 min.. usualy 45min. And i dont think my PC goes to 15PSI (Its old and has been blown up.. Its kinda scary to use cause it makes alot of noise. :grin: I PCed the ground grain jar for about the same. 


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1539090 - 05/11/03 03:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

grind my own flour?

jeez.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1539106 - 05/11/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

AFOAF is a newbie and he used the PF Tek, followed it verbatim and had no contams. as long as you are sterile and follow the Tek you shouldn't have any contams.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: turnman24]
    #1539204 - 05/11/03 04:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Duh.. I followed everythin perfect... Flamed teh needle till it was red, between ever shot.. I dont think somthing happnd on my part.. By the 3-5 times of tryin it was crazy how sterile i was.. Used bleach, lysol everywhere... Plus i make beer so i know how to be sterile... It was probley somthin in my house(I live above a motorcycle shop, the building is over 100 years old.. so who knows... I did nothing difernt for this new jar. But it seems to work great and very fast.. Im gonna go buy a bunch more half pint jars because im sick of Pint jars allways getting contams... so i hope the smaller jars help..


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1539208 - 05/11/03 04:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Its old and has been blown up.. Its kinda scary to use cause it makes alot of noise.



Your gonna get hurt or killed using it.
Never use a pressure cooker that has failed.

Your playing with a time bomb!

Do yourself a favor and buy a new one.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Roadkill]
    #1539827 - 05/11/03 10:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No i made it safe. It cant blow up again.. I put a cork in place of this little ribber stopper thing.. So as long as i get the cork wet befor use its safe.. Because the cork will shoot out befor teh PC explodes.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1539920 - 05/11/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

your gonna need a new pc. the 15 psi is non-negotiable. also if your going to use pint jars the time is 60min @15psi 1/2pt jars 45min@15psi. not 30-45. also non-negotiable. i suggest you try again just with a different pc. good luck.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1539957 - 05/11/03 11:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

also give the micron filter disks a try. if your jars are clean and you do everything else correctly no outside contams will get in. i am probably the least sterile of anyone i know but i never get contamination.
also dont give up on rye it beats the hell out of popcorn. try this.
boil rye berries in clean water 45min EXACTLY!
a slow boil not full on.
after 45min move rye to a collander and run cold clean water
into the rye to stop them from cooking any further.
cover with a clean paper towel and let sit for about 3hrs.
i use quart jars and fill to 600ml line. cover with micron filter disk and lid
place jars in NEW pc ,yours will not do, for no less than 60 min.
then yer all set.
innoculation. i inject each jar with 1.5cc of spore solution.
may not sound like enough but it is.
this tek has never failed me and should do you fine as well. good luck


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CRAZYFUKR]
    #1540266 - 05/12/03 12:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The rye i use is flower..So rye berrys arnt what im interested in... And im preaty sure my PC is fine.. I have no idea how much the PSI is but im preaty sure its high.. I can cook a full roast in 10-15 min.. Thats preaty good..

And i didnt ask to be baby stepped through some tec u like.. My main points was to show that WBS and popcorn are a great substitute for BRF.. And the thoughts of the WBS being more likly to contam arnt all true.. I think its the grinded WBS gets sterilized easier than Strait grain.. Im goin to stick with my PC and my new "tec" (kinda).. because its workin for me.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1540367 - 05/12/03 01:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Flamed teh needle till it was red, between ever shot..




did u let it thouroughly cool after each flaming?


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MykeOfile]
    #1540496 - 05/12/03 02:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Arge... Well iv got growth in my one jar.. That by far was teh least sterile with..

Yes i shot some solution out of the needle to cool it down.. But just a tiny bit..

I dont know y my old jars failed..and Im NOT a newbie.. Ive read and read every tec and have tought people to grow and they were succesful so i have no idea what could have went wrong... And realy dont care because that in the past iv found the way.. My way


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1540644 - 05/12/03 03:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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No i made it safe. It cant blow up again..


WTF?????? Holy shit, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but are you retarded, that's like fucking a whore, then saying " Oh, I'm not worried about STDs, I just used a t-shirt as a condom."

Seriously, stop being a cheap ass, spend the 50 bucks and say a life or two.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash]
    #1540693 - 05/12/03 03:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Im goin to stick with my PC and my new "tec" (kinda).. because its workin for me.

obviously it is not working for you or you would have shrooms instead of problems
if you know every fucking thing then why did you ask for help? you dont know shit thats why so why dont you actually listen to what people who know are telling you. its your fucking shitty pressure cooker ya fuckin moron!


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Legoulash] * 1
    #1540835 - 05/12/03 04:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I suspect your problem was a bad print or syringe rather than the BRF. I never was a fan of BRF myself and, if you live where Mexican food is popular, you can buy your corn already ground with calcium added to improve the pH. Look for a white corn flour called masa herina. I think masa is better than either BRF or regular corn flour.


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Re: Never BRF or Rye again!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: woodrow]
    #1540841 - 05/12/03 04:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You'll wonder where your head could be if you cook your jars with a bad PC.


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