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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Pali_Gap]
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Is it just coincidence that 99% of the Bush bashing happens on drug message boards?


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Pali_Gap]
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Pali_Gap said:
Is it just coincidence that 99% of the Bush bashing happens on drug message boards?


How did you come up with that figure?


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: trendal]
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Pali_Gap said:
Is it just coincidence that 99% of the Bush bashing happens on drug message boards?



How did you come up with that figure?



That's just an estimate. I've seen an extremely large amount of Bush bashing on drug message boards. Totse has drug forums, so I consider that to be one in a way. I'm wondering if the hive is gone because of all the threats of terrorist attacks from some members against the USA and Bush. Some other drug message boards: http://www.hipforums.com and the forums at http://www.lycaeum.org


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Hendostan]
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you kill off a species of tree in one area, there are hundreds of animal species that suffer, you clear a river bank and it starts to erode, clouding the water and causing the river to run faster, preventing salmon from swimming upstream



Nature is always in a state of flux. How many fires destroyed how many thousands of acres? They always come back, different, but stronger.
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..there are so many subtleties..white-bark pine seeds are the most important food source of grizzly bears, and right now there is an epidemic killing off a lot of white bark pines because of rising temperatures..not saying that is our fault, but it shows that losing something as small and seemingly insignificant as a certain seed could kill off one of the largest mammals on earth.



So something is happening right now that hasn't happened before and we are already determining that the bears are going to be extinct?
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industry thrives on short term profits, and being short sighted when it comes to the environment is always wrong.



Like saying that warming is killing all the bears, thats short sighted , right?
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bush's administration is contstantly siding with industry and development when it comes to forests...if that's not ecological warfare, what is? :shrug:


What is y our house made of?

What if bush said that he was going to stop all forestry, but he'd also require all people with an IQ of less than 120 would have to be sterilized and kill their offspring? That would solve the need for using more and more of our natural resources, right?


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: SoopaX]
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but he'd also require all people with an IQ of less than 120 would have to be sterilized and kill their offspring?

I'm pretty sure a child's IQ isn't directly related to their parent's IQ. Parents of average IQ are as likely to have an extremely bright child as are parents of very high IQ.

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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: newuser1492]
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I don't believe in creationism so I tend to trust politicians more than a lot of the environmentalist zealots I seen.


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Annapurna1]
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Annapurna said the EU are using their superior economic power. superior?????


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Pali_Gap]
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What makes you think a politician would know anything about environmental protection?


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Pali_Gap]
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Pali_Gap said:
If a tree fell in the woods and no one was there to hear it, would it make a sound?


How does this pertain to anything in this thread?

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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: trendal]
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Last I heard, they were even talking about releasing genetically-modified bacteria and virii to help "wipe out" the coca plants in Columbia.


It was a fungus, not a bacteria... and they have released it... and it has mutated... and from what I have read, it is destroying the banana plantations. Sorry, no references, all hear-say (so I could easily be wrong here).


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Seuss]
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perhaps we need to keep in mind that all our current building is chalked full of problems. look at leaky condo. costing tens of thousands of dollars per person (per house) in the condo units. theres lots of problems now, perhaps the problem is people arnt willing to give alternatives a chance. yes they are gonna have flaws and are going to cost people lots of money in fuckup fees, but so does wood. jsut cause its a new "better" product doesnt make it perfect.

environmental steps are nto gonna be great wonderous things that take 5 mins to do. people need to have soem patience and realise there are going to be bumps...but i think that things really need to start moving. hard for me to think that some people think there isnt an environmental problem with current situations.


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Hendostan]
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Hendostan said:
money is on his agenda, not the well being of the planet. and he is the president



How many people on this planet would use the materials that are ored or mined?
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..whether or not he is directly responsible for these things, as our leader it's his job to take the blame when things go wrong.



It's nearly impossible for a president to change anything in this day and age. What the hell would you want the executive branch to do anyway?
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he has shown no signs of caring for the environment...all he has done is reverse or delay acts that put caps on emissions and push for opening up wilderness areas to road building, logging, and drilling..more industry, more development, more logging, more drilling, less trees..this has been his consistent position. it's not really a war, i guess. it's an attack.


OK, stop people from breeding, kill off 20-40% of the population and we won't need these resources for awhile.


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: Annapurna1]
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Annapurna1 said:
but is it also possible..as the link suggests..that bush is deliberately trying to trigger an ice age and/or otherwise damage the environment..in hopes that our global rivals will suffer more?...


Do you have anything else to do but post innane conspiracy theories on a website? Maybe you could pick another website :wink:


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Re: is bush waging ecological warfare??... [Re: SoopaX]
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It's nearly impossible for a president to change anything in this day and age. What the hell would you want the executive branch to do anyway?



i know this may be straying from the topic a bit but for argument sake lets jsut say the government. cause as you say it is not as easy as just saying somthing for the pres to change it. but it is the gov that decides things like emision laws, fees/taxes, land use if on crown land (thats a HUGE one, and they CAN decide any number of things easy on their land!). if it impacts things live water sheds/rivers/oceans, old growth forests, endangered species it IS the responsibilty of the government to take action! they have many people on the pay roll and they shouldnt be paying all this money to put up a show for teh public to make it look like they are doing somthing. its clear that certain governments jsut do what they want from the start and entertain us peons.


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