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OfflineMycoJunkie
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Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice...
    #3459398 - 12/07/04 01:50 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I just inoculated my very first batch ever. Unfortunately, the BRF and vermiculite gunk got caught in the syringe needle every single time, so that was a pain in the ass, and caused me to waste some spore-water. I inoculated 5 half pints with about 11cc of Cambodian, and then 3 with PESA. I plan on casing the cambodian, and if all of the PESA survive, i'll probably case them too, if 1 doesn't ill have to cake them.

Next time I order syringes, I'm gonna order 2 or 3 of the same strain so everyone gets the same treatment.

The reason I ask if you need a PC for popcorn is because I bet it would be a lot easier to inoculate.

Experts: What don't you need a PC for? 'cause I don't have one.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3459405 - 12/07/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

well go find a cheap one for around 20 dollars.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
    #3459421 - 12/07/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Cheap ones usually dont have PSI meters. I could find a very cheap 1 at walmart, but I chose not to because it had no PSI meter.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3459428 - 12/07/04 02:01 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

well then you know at leats it cooks at 10 psi which is hella better then not having 1 at all..correct ? when i get some cash flow i will order one for 70 that has the psi gauge at wallmart online.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
    #3459464 - 12/07/04 02:08 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

www.ebay.com - I got a 16 QT for $20 and it works like a charm
www.pressurecooker-outlet.com - the cheapest I've found for new ones

Those are your 2 options for pressure cookers. You need a pressure cooker because 15 PSI cooks at 250 deg F or so, which is required to kill all of the endospores that grain harbors.

Also, from my own minimal personal experience, I'd like to say "fuck popcorn." In all 3 batches of jars, with the same care given, my rye has GREATLY outperformed my popcorn. If you do choose to go popcorn, simmer for a long time, I'm talking at least 45 minutes, but that's from my experience. I have people telling me that popcorn colonizes faster than rye, but they also say that it doesn't fruit as well. I am yet to experience any advantage of popcorn versus rye, my spores also germinated about 2-3 days slower on popcorn.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3459485 - 12/07/04 02:11 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

as for the syringes, if your batch fruits at all, just print those and make your own syringes. :smile: you'll save lots of money.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
    #3459488 - 12/07/04 02:11 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

How are you innoculating? 4 holes around the edge of the lid or what? The reason I ask is because this is the way I inoculate BRF/Verm substrates and never get a clogged syringe. I think it's because I push the needle outward toward the glass as I insert it into the jar. By the time it makes it through the 1" dry verm layer (which doesn't cause clogs) it is touching the glass and I slide it down the surface untill fully inserted then inject. Doing it this way prevents clogs from the water/brf/verm muck. Hopefully this helps you in some way. Good Luck.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3459493 - 12/07/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Follow PF tek Mycojunkie.

I aint no expert but as far as I know are BRF cakes the only which can be sterilized without a PC. Even though a PC is highly recomended.

Search for and read PF Tek.

Good luck.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3459508 - 12/07/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Do you need a PC for ground up grains like popcorn or rye? That's just what BRF is and you don't need one there. Right?


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3459511 - 12/07/04 02:16 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Well, First I used 4 holes, but doing that caused me to use more spore solution than was needed. I should have just inserted the needle at the very edge, but I didn't. I'll have to do that next time. After the first one, I just used 1 hole in the middle and squirted in about 2 ccs or so. Next time I'll use rye and a PC too, and I'll have my own prints so it won't really matter. Thx for the PC links.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3459539 - 12/07/04 02:22 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I agree spliff popcorn bites bigtime. Rye is the best, but the cheapest most readily availible is WBS, it performs very well IMO. I like getting syringes from shroomery venders cause all of them I have used have a angle ground on the needle that prevents clogging and you can just reuse them after sterilizing them. And do yourself a big favor and get some kind of PC, the weighted rocker ones work good.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: Mr_Clean]
    #3459545 - 12/07/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Yea I use an old weighted rocker one.


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3459553 - 12/07/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I use the El Cheapo Mirro 8qt from Wal-Mart without a PSI meter but all I'm doing right now is BRF so it works fine. Never had a contam so far. *knocks on wood*


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #3460719 - 12/07/04 06:49 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

My view on pc's is like that of Harleys.
Right at this very moment, I am boiling brf, if I had to have one today, there is one for $17 @wally world.
I would rather hold out and get the all-american ;-)
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3460733 - 12/07/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

well i use one that cooks at 10 psi but the one i have is stainless stell aluminum shell its nice ..for free so im not bitching..its a solid piece..


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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
    #3461505 - 12/07/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I got a 21 quart and 23 quart from ebay shipped for just over 50 bucks.


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