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MycoJunkie
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Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice...
#3459398 - 12/07/04 11:50 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just inoculated my very first batch ever. Unfortunately, the BRF and vermiculite gunk got caught in the syringe needle every single time, so that was a pain in the ass, and caused me to waste some spore-water. I inoculated 5 half pints with about 11cc of Cambodian, and then 3 with PESA. I plan on casing the cambodian, and if all of the PESA survive, i'll probably case them too, if 1 doesn't ill have to cake them. Next time I order syringes, I'm gonna order 2 or 3 of the same strain so everyone gets the same treatment. The reason I ask if you need a PC for popcorn is because I bet it would be a lot easier to inoculate. Experts: What don't you need a PC for? 'cause I don't have one.
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Edited by MycoJunkie (12/07/04 11:51 AM)
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
#3459405 - 12/07/04 11:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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well go find a cheap one for around 20 dollars.
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MycoJunkie
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
#3459421 - 12/07/04 11:58 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cheap ones usually dont have PSI meters. I could find a very cheap 1 at walmart, but I chose not to because it had no PSI meter.
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djred
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
#3459428 - 12/07/04 12:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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well then you know at leats it cooks at 10 psi which is hella better then not having 1 at all..correct ? when i get some cash flow i will order one for 70 that has the psi gauge at wallmart online.
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
#3459464 - 12/07/04 12:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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www.ebay.com - I got a 16 QT for $20 and it works like a charm www.pressurecooker-outlet.com - the cheapest I've found for new ones
Those are your 2 options for pressure cookers. You need a pressure cooker because 15 PSI cooks at 250 deg F or so, which is required to kill all of the endospores that grain harbors.
Also, from my own minimal personal experience, I'd like to say "fuck popcorn." In all 3 batches of jars, with the same care given, my rye has GREATLY outperformed my popcorn. If you do choose to go popcorn, simmer for a long time, I'm talking at least 45 minutes, but that's from my experience. I have people telling me that popcorn colonizes faster than rye, but they also say that it doesn't fruit as well. I am yet to experience any advantage of popcorn versus rye, my spores also germinated about 2-3 days slower on popcorn.
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
#3459485 - 12/07/04 12:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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as for the syringes, if your batch fruits at all, just print those and make your own syringes. you'll save lots of money.
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13eetleJuice
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
#3459488 - 12/07/04 12:11 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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How are you innoculating? 4 holes around the edge of the lid or what? The reason I ask is because this is the way I inoculate BRF/Verm substrates and never get a clogged syringe. I think it's because I push the needle outward toward the glass as I insert it into the jar. By the time it makes it through the 1" dry verm layer (which doesn't cause clogs) it is touching the glass and I slide it down the surface untill fully inserted then inject. Doing it this way prevents clogs from the water/brf/verm muck. Hopefully this helps you in some way. Good Luck.
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Edited by 13eetleJuice (12/07/04 12:13 PM)
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MycoJunkie]
#3459493 - 12/07/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Follow PF tek Mycojunkie.
I aint no expert but as far as I know are BRF cakes the only which can be sterilized without a PC. Even though a PC is highly recomended.
Search for and read PF Tek.
Good luck.
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spliffmasta
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MushroomFriend]
#3459508 - 12/07/04 12:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you need a PC for ground up grains like popcorn or rye? That's just what BRF is and you don't need one there. Right?
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MycoJunkie
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: MushroomFriend]
#3459511 - 12/07/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, First I used 4 holes, but doing that caused me to use more spore solution than was needed. I should have just inserted the needle at the very edge, but I didn't. I'll have to do that next time. After the first one, I just used 1 hole in the middle and squirted in about 2 ccs or so. Next time I'll use rye and a PC too, and I'll have my own prints so it won't really matter. Thx for the PC links.
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
#3459539 - 12/07/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree spliff popcorn bites bigtime. Rye is the best, but the cheapest most readily availible is WBS, it performs very well IMO. I like getting syringes from shroomery venders cause all of them I have used have a angle ground on the needle that prevents clogging and you can just reuse them after sterilizing them. And do yourself a big favor and get some kind of PC, the weighted rocker ones work good.
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: Mr_Clean]
#3459545 - 12/07/04 12:23 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea I use an old weighted rocker one.
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13eetleJuice
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: spliffmasta]
#3459553 - 12/07/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use the El Cheapo Mirro 8qt from Wal-Mart without a PSI meter but all I'm doing right now is BRF so it works fine. Never had a contam so far. *knocks on wood*
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#3460719 - 12/07/04 04:49 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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My view on pc's is like that of Harleys. Right at this very moment, I am boiling brf, if I had to have one today, there is one for $17 @wally world. I would rather hold out and get the all-american ;-)
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: LouiseLouise]
#3460733 - 12/07/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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well i use one that cooks at 10 psi but the one i have is stainless stell aluminum shell its nice ..for free so im not bitching..its a solid piece..
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Re: Do u need PC for Popcorn? Also, need experts' advice... [Re: djred]
#3461505 - 12/07/04 07:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I got a 21 quart and 23 quart from ebay shipped for just over 50 bucks.
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