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How to overcome a phobia?
    #3437281 - 12/02/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've been thinking lately, that I really want to overcome my phobia of spiders.  It really intrudes on my life.  If I see one, I become a sweating, heart-pumping, retching mess. I know it's not logical at all, and I just really hate feeling that way towards spiders.  There is no obvious reason why I am so terrified of them, so I was wondering if there was a spiritual reason why I am afraid of spiders. 

I did some research and found this:

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Spider teaches you to maintain a balance -- between past and future, physical and spiritual, male and female. Spider teaches you that everything you now do is weaving what you will encounter in the future.

The Spider awakens creative sensibilities.  It weaves a web of intricate and subtle fabric, as if to remind us that the past always subtly influences the present and future. The spider found within the web reminds us that we are the center of our own world. Spider reminds us that we are the keepers and writers of our destiny, weaving it like a web by our thoughts, feelings and actions.

Spider is the guardian  of the ancient languages and alphabets. many believe that the alphabet was formed by the geometric patterns and angles found within the spider's web.  To many this was the first true alphabet.  This is why spider is considered the teacher of language and the magic of writing. 

Those who weave magic with the written word probably have a spider totem.
 




It rings home with me...

As does this:

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If spider has come into your life, ask yourself some important questions: 

Are you weaving your dreams and imaginings into reality?
Are you not using your creative opportunities?
Are you feeling closed in or stuck as if in a web?
Do you need to pay attention to your balance and where you are walking in life?
Are others out of balance around you?
Do you need to write?
Are you inspired to write or draw and not following through?
Remember that spider is the keeper of knowledge of the primordial alphabet.  Spider can teach how to use the written language with power and creativity so that your words weave a web around those who would read them.

 




So I was thinking that maybe my fear of spiders has to do with more then the physical.  Maybe it has to do with my fears and subtle psychological nuances or something.  Maybe my fear of spiders is a sign that I'm not using my creative talents enough.  For instance, I am sometimes terrified of writing my story because I am afraid of failure.  Believe it or not, I will sit at my computer for a good hour, working up the courage to begin writing because I am scared it will not be good enough.  Maybe my fear of spiders represents my anxiety of failure when it come to my writing. 

What do you think? 

p.s.  please, please please no spider pics in this thread.  I'm not quite ready for that yet.  :tongue:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437288 - 12/02/04 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know, if it is seriously in your subconscious I don't know if I would try any mind-altering drug to fix it myself, you could possibly mess yourself up worse (if you believe in the power of the mind and all that) Its better off left to a professional, although I do question the validity of certain social sciences, I guess its just the most responsible thing to do.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437291 - 12/02/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If You want to find the actual reason of Your phobia, I suggest lucid dreaming - a great way of getting inside Yourself. May take some time to learn it though... For overcoming, well, yes - only getting used to spiders little by little. Here's a bit from Stephen LaBerge's Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming:

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Research on behavior modification treatment for phobias shows that it is not enough for a person to know intellectually that the object of their fear is harmless. Snake phobics may ?know? perfectly well that garter snakes are harmless, but they will still be afraid to handle one. The way to learn to overcome fear is to face it?to approach the fearsome object or situation little by little. Each time you encounter the feared thing without harm you learn by experience that it cannot hurt you. This is the kind of approach we propose for overcoming nightmares. Many anecdotes demonstrate that the approach is effective and can even be used by children. None of our proposed treatments for nightmares require that you interpret the symbolism of the unpleasant images. Much fruitful work can be accomplished in dreams by working directly with the images. Waking analysis (or interpretation while in the dream) may help you understand the source of your anxieties but will not necessarily help you outgrow them. For instance, consider again the fear of snakes. The classical interpretation of snake phobia is that it is a disguised anxiety about sex, especially regarding the male member, and in fact most snake phobics are women. A much more plausible biological explanation is that humans come into the world prepared to learn to fear snakes, because avoiding venomous snakes has obvious survival value. However, providing this information doesn?t cure the phobia. What does help, as mentioned above, is for the phobic to become accustomed to dealing with snakes.




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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: ivi]
    #3437332 - 12/02/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think you should get some spiders from your attic or something and play with them.

Take fear at it's face value. Learn to be in the fear. Take charge over theh fear. Find joy in fear so it may turn into a positive emotion.

Fear is nothing more than a misunderstanding and can not harm you.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437353 - 12/02/04 02:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You wanna get over spider phobia? This is what you do:
Start SMALL. If you're not ready for real spiders, start on pics of them. First, the really little ones, like money spiders. Then when you're comfortable with it, move on to a bit bigger spider. I bet there are many sites you can get assorted pics.
Do this at your own pace, as slow as you like.
The next step is to start with real spiders. Just looking, not touching. Start way small, and work upwards. You could try a natural history museum for dead specimens.
Anyway, you get the picture. The last step is to be able to hold one.
It will take a long time, but if you really want to see their value, it's well worth it.
Spiders really truly rock. They have little fingers on their butts (called spinnerettes, I think), that you can see them knitting their webs with.
Mushrooms make all creatures my friends.
I loved the writing you included about spiders, btw.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3437362 - 12/02/04 02:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

word,

i usta be afraid of snakes, but i let some friends put their pet snakes on me and slither around on me...
pretty much fixed my phobia of em.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MrBump]
    #3437413 - 12/02/04 02:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've had slight phobia of spiders since I was little. A spider crawled into my shirt and I could feel it crawling on my back and it just tore me up for some reason. (I was very young)

A few months ago I decided I was going to overcome my fear, so I started small. I went out and bought a toy spider and set it beside my entertainment system so I'd always see it when I looked over there. Over time I got used to it and now me and "lester" have become good friends. :wink:

It sounds silly, but it's helped me more than anything ever has.

:sun:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437455 - 12/02/04 02:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i had new found respect for them once i found out that without spiders, the planet would be overrun by insects


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If it weren't for the bloody corpses, I wouldn't have any corpses at all.

There are two ways to get to the top of an oak tree: start climbing or sit on an acorn.

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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437478 - 12/02/04 02:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you have alot of problems.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3437491 - 12/02/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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bi0 said:
you have alot of problems.


:crymeariver:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MrBump]
    #3437494 - 12/02/04 03:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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thecornking said:
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bi0 said:
you have alot of problems.


:crymeariver:



:drumming:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MrBump]
    #3437538 - 12/02/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it's true.

every other post by ElmerSlimShady is about some bigass personal problem of hers. I mean, I got the love for ElmerSlimShady - so I am concerned.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: ivi]
    #3437573 - 12/02/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ivi said:
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thecornking said:
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bi0 said:
you have alot of problems.


:crymeariver:



:drumming:



:jamming:


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The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, they're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away, but if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth...

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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: bf6]
    #3437628 - 12/02/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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bf6 said:
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ivi said:
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thecornking said:
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bi0 said:
you have alot of problems.


:crymeariver:



:drumming:



:jamming:


:bananamusic:


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If it weren't for the bloody corpses, I wouldn't have any corpses at all.

There are two ways to get to the top of an oak tree: start climbing or sit on an acorn.

Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3437643 - 12/02/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bi0 said:
it's true.

every other post by ElmerSlimShady is about some bigass personal problem of hers. I mean, I got the love for ElmerSlimShady - so I am concerned.




Well man...what can I say...I've come a long way from where I used to be.  You think I am bad now...you should have seen me a few years ago.  So what seems like a lot of problems to you actually isn't that bad for me.  Plus, nowadays, I've more prone to work on my problems to try and fix them, rather then just letting them lie and fester into even bigger issues. 

I don't really know how to respond to you, Bi0.  This is the second thread of mine you've come into just to inform me that "I have a lot of problems."  Umm...yes...no need for a reminder, heh. It's no secret to anyone here that I have issues.  I guess I should be thankful that most people here love me anyway.  Okay, I don't really want to feel uncomfortable in the future making threads like this, so here's a newsflash for everyone: I'm flawed!  I know...breaking news, right?  :ooo:

The difference between myself and some other person is that I'm more vocal about my problems because I am trying to *fix* them.  I was a living dead person for most of my life.  I couldn't even leave the apartment because I was so riddled with fear and anxiety.  Through a period of self-discovery, I realized there was a better way to live.  I mean, if me talking about the issues I have offends or annoys anyone, then I guess that's their problem, not mine.  Bi0, if you are responding that way in honest concern for my wellbeing, then I appreciate it.  :wink: 

As for my phobia, I made progress once while tripping.  My last trip, I held a box that contained a dead black widow in it.  For some reason, it was a lot easier to do while on mushrooms.  I guess I saw the futility of my phobia clearly and was able to move past it for a little while. 

I think I'm going to try and get some silly toy shaped like a spider and put it on my desk.  Thanks for the ideas and replies.  :heart:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MrBump]
    #3437664 - 12/02/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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thecornking said:
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bf6 said:
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ivi said:
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thecornking said:
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bi0 said:
you have alot of problems.


:crymeariver:



:drumming:



:jamming:


:bananamusic:



Well, I'M quite glad about it, or I'd have nobody to offer tinpot advice to...... :smirk:


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437666 - 12/02/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for confirming my suspicion that you have alot of problems. I hope you are doing well. I got the love for you :heart:

btw - spiders are cool. why you so afraid?


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437693 - 12/02/04 03:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Buy one of these for your house...




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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3437701 - 12/02/04 03:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bi0 said:
thanks for confirming my suspicion that you have alot of problems. I hope you are doing well. I got the love for you :heart:

btw - spiders are cool. why you so afraid?




Glad I could help out with your suspicions.  :wink:  :heart:

There is absolutely no reason why I am afraid of spiders.  I've had parents confirm that I had no traumatic incident involving them as a child.  So that's why I was looking to symbolism and metaphor for an answer.  One of these days I may even get a pet spider.  One of these days in the far, far, far future, that is.


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Re: How to overcome a phobia? [Re: MOTH]
    #3437705 - 12/02/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I know you dont' want me to do this, but I suggest you look at these and try and recognize the beauty in ALL things:







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The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, they're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away, but if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth...

bloodflower6

Yay for Pornography!


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