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OfflineGwize
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Seeing Elves..but why?
    #3396021 - 11/22/04 10:05 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

On my last trip with bout 4-5 grams of Ps. Cyans on an Empty stomache I was hurdled through the universe. Reached a point where time was non-exsistent, and question what i was, who I was. Later on to find a new reality. It was the first time I've tripped that hard and let myself go. Other times tripping on shrooms in bad settings like class...(yeah i know how stupid that was now, but I was a newbie shroomer and didn't know what i was doing) Well while I was tripping at home and felt extremely calm and comfertable knowing that my loved ones were around. I stayed in the dark of my room for awhile falling asleep and I'd see elves everytime I closed my eyes. Sometimes even looking around I'd see'em and most the time they would ignore me, or try to humiliate me. I havent tripped since that night..it really opened my eyes and I had fun during the trip. Felt it was an amazing experience. I then read about other level 5 trips and noticed the elves there too. Why do we see elves? I found alot of other similarities but after reading other trips but people seeing Elves it kinda freaked me out thinking that I was the only one. Does anyone know why we see elves. I'm not saying Everyone does, but I've read alot of trip reports with'em.
Any facts or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Hopefully this question hasn't been asked before.

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3396066 - 11/22/04 10:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

only elves ive seen came from that crazy willy-wonka-DMT-land


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3396103 - 11/22/04 10:25 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

maybe your peaking into the magical secret world of the elves?


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: dobinky]
    #3396110 - 11/22/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

y not ?


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3396120 - 11/22/04 10:29 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

How did the elves try and humiliate you?

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3396298 - 11/22/04 11:13 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

perhaps because elves look like distorted humans, and on mushrooms people look like distorted humans :P so we are thinking alot about distorted humans and, BAM! we see elves? or rather you do.


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: jux]
    #3397556 - 11/23/04 09:14 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I guess that might be it.  Well hopefully I'll trip again soon and have another encounter with those elves. :smile:

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3397574 - 11/23/04 09:22 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

elves are the keepers of nature... and mushrooms activate that deep connection with this planet... seing elves is always a good thing... i see myself in the mirror as an elf everytime i trip... i like it :biggrin:


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: In(di)go]
    #3397717 - 11/23/04 10:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I think its a deep seated folklore thing that we are raised on from an early age - a lot of common themes in those old fairytales - example - how many kids who are now trippers will have read and seen the illustrations in Lewis Caroll books, Alice in Wonderland and Through the looking glass, with smoking caterpiller sitting on a huge mushroom?...fairies, elves, mythical creatures have a huge symbolic importance in the Human psyche..IMHO.

Maybe part of it ?

(In addition, I have only ever ingested one species, Liberty Cap mushrooms (and Mexicana truffles, but I don't count them as true 'trip' as such) and always 'see' mushrooms when I close my eyes - a few people report the same thing too - is this expectation passed down from people who 'saw' mushrooms when on Libs, and that is what I see also as a result, or this something peculiar to Libs themselves - possibly a combination of both I would surmise.

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: LuciferSam2]
    #3397833 - 11/23/04 10:38 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, but where did those artists get their visions of these things from. How did they create such weird, twisted crazy things?

Maybe psychedelics.


Could be like the chicken and the egg.

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3397844 - 11/23/04 10:43 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well, as the old saying goes 'there is a fine line between genius and insanity'..

creative people I would imagine have been having 'visionary' experiences for centuries...maybe 'bolstered' by substances, but in the case of someone like Lewis Carrol, I don't think he did!....he was just doing it all by himself!


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: LuciferSam2]
    #3399624 - 11/23/04 05:20 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

lol Lewis Carrol has created or added to something that, we feel and see when tripping...Well, thanks for all the input. Maybe now I'll see mushrooms when I trip.

But boy i love those elves.

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3400076 - 11/23/04 07:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

ive seen elves too....hmmm

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Damn]
    #3401610 - 11/24/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I've read that elves are quite prevalent on DMT trips. Has anyone read "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" by Strassman??
Anyway, I've never done DMT or shrooms so I can't say that I have ever seen elves with either substance.


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Real_Poopypants]
    #3402066 - 11/24/04 03:40 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

lol i got this once, but it was an evil horrible elf!!!!


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3403070 - 11/24/04 10:16 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

The aztecs and mexicans used to see what they referred to as the "children of the four winds" on mushrooms - perhaps they were seeing elves too.


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: jux]
    #3403246 - 11/24/04 11:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

jux said:
perhaps because elves look like distorted humans, and on mushrooms people look like distorted humans :P so we are thinking alot about distorted humans and, BAM! we see elves? or rather you do.




Well to tell you the truth at first while tripping I didn't realize they were elves.  They looked like small jesters, with that crazy 4 bell thing attached to their hats.  But then I thought about it later and decided they must be elves.  I think this all goes back to the whole distorted humans thing.  And we presume them as elves.
Unless there really are trippy elves in the fourth dimension :ooo:

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Gwize]
    #3404689 - 11/24/04 03:57 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

No I agree with the fact that its the "magick" of the particular drug at hand, why else would psychedelics have different signitures visually? For example.... Lasers, shattered glass, nuts and bolts, rockets, lighteneing, train tracks, pyramids and other less organic, visuals are all common with lsd. Mushroom visuals are more bubbly and "natural", for example, bubbles, mushrooms, elves, caterpillars, etc. Mescaline has its "style" as well, I tend to get alot of webs, neurons and latices. There is far too many universal phenomena experienced with hallucinogens to ignore this, in my opinion. Has anyone ever had the dream where your teeth are falling out or bleeding? Thats been going on for ages in all cultures, think about it. :smile:

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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
    #3405232 - 11/24/04 05:34 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Has anyone ever had the dream where your teeth are falling out or bleeding? Thats been going on for ages in all cultures, think about it. :smile:




YEA!!!  Me and my friend have both had dreams where our teeth fall out.  He said to me that he told his aunt this, and she said that when one have these dreams, it means that he/she is going to be poor in the future.  So I guess we might end up poor?

Crazy stuff man!!


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Re: Seeing Elves..but why? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #3405255 - 11/24/04 05:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I've been having those teeth fallin out dreams...

Hopefully I wont be poor

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