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language of the elves
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anybody out there ever start talking in the dmt tongues? it has happened to me several times...like they teach you their language and and explain all the secrets of the universe in it, but when it passes, you forget the language and cant explain it to anybody...just wondering if it had happened to anybody else and what they thought about it

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Re: language of the elves [Re: q-bert]
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is it possible to write any of it down? I write tons of ideas down during my escapades.


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Re: language of the elves [Re: lillFish]
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you can record it...the concept of pen and paper is too much for me in that state

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Re: language of the elves [Re: q-bert]
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So get a tape recorder and start talking, I heard that's the only way to record ANYTHING with DMT, I wish I would have had one of those on my 7g mushroom trip, pen and paper are like futuristic machinery on 7 grams :lol:


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The most thoroughly and relentlessly damned, banned, excluded, condemned, suppressed,brutalized and defamed of all Damned Things is the individual human being. The social engineers, are perpetually forcing this Damned Thing into carefully prepared blueprints and perpetually irritated that the Damned Thing will not fit into the slot assigned to it. The theologians call it a sinner and try to reform it The governor calls it a criminal and tries to punish it The psychotherapist calls it a neurotic and tries to cure it. Still, the Damned Thing will not fit into their slots. -Robert Anton Wilson

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Re: language of the elves [Re: q-bert]
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LoL you're not discovering any universal secrets.. You're on DMT bro.


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Re: language of the elves [Re: Povlovich]
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I think its more of a visual language, rather than spoken. It tells you things through the visuals. I always have this welcoming feeling, like welcome to my universe. I have never seen any elves though, usually for me its like there is one being in there with me. No collection of elves or anything of that nature. I do know what you are referencing though, I have heard terence mckenna speak in this way before. sounds like some gibberish really. :psychsplit:


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Re: language of the elves [Re: Seeker_22]
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yep..it happens


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Re: language of the elves [Re: notapillow]
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McKenna called them 'self-transforming machine elves': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elf

    There's a whole bunch of entities waiting on the other side, saying "How wonderful that you're here! You come so rarely! We're so delighted to see you!"

    They're like jewelled self-dribbling basketballs and there are many of them and they come pounding toward you and they will stop in front of you and vibrate, but then they do a very disconcerting thing, which is they jump into your body and then they jump back out again and the whole thing is going on in a high-speed mode where you're being presented with thousands of details per second and you can't get a hold on [them ...] and these things are saying "Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is, and they say "Don't do that. Pay attention to what we're doing".

    What they're doing is making objects with their voices, singing structures into existence. They offer things to you, saying "Look at this! Look at this!" and as your attention goes towards these objects you realise that what you're being shown is impossible. It's not simply intricate, beautiful and hard to manufacture, it's impossible to make these things. The nearest analogy would be the Fabergé eggs, but these things are like the toys that are scattered around the nursery inside a U.F.O., celestial toys, and the toys themselves appear to be somehow alive and can sing other objects into existence, so what's happening is this proliferation of elf gifts, which are moving around singing, and they are saying "Do what we are doing" and they are very insistent, and they say "Do it! Do it! Do it!" and you feel like a bubble inside your body beginning to move up toward your mouth, and when it comes out it isn't sound, it's vision. You discover that you can pump "stuff" out of your mouth by singing, and they're urging you to do this. They say "That's it! That's it! Keep doing it!".

    We're now at minute 4.5 [of the trip] and you speak in a kind of glossolalia. There is a spontaneous outpouring of syntax unaccompanied by what is normally called "meaning". After a minute or so of this the whole thing begins to collapse in on itself and they begin to physically move away from you. Usually their final shot is that they wave goodbye and say "Deja vu! Deja vu!".



Edited by epilogue (02/12/10 03:05 PM)

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Re: language of the elves [Re: epilogue]
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yes ...he does (did)


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Re: language of the elves [Re: tony serro]
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tony serro said:
So get a tape recorder and start talking, I heard that's the only way to record ANYTHING with DMT, I wish I would have had one of those on my 7g mushroom trip, pen and paper are like futuristic machinery on 7 grams :lol:




Shit.. even on 3.5 I could never comprehend writing something logical.
hah


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Re: language of the elves [Re: epilogue]
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that's it bro...you've been there...i sometimes wonder if we really could transform, speak into existence if we could just stay a little longer...cant wait to go back...my friend is supposed to bring me some from Monterrey tomorrow...fist time in 6 years

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Re: language of the elves [Re: Povlovich]
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Povlovich said:
LoL you're not discovering any universal secrets.. You're on DMT bro.



PEOPLE, we have a non-believer! One who's mind is limited to the ideas drummed into his head by the new world order.

HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE FAIRIES!

GET HIM!


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Is of Tinkerbell naked and sucking me dry
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Re: language of the elves [Re: q-bert]
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q-bert said:
that's it bro...you've been there...i sometimes wonder if we really could transform, speak into existence if we could just stay a little longer...cant wait to go back...my friend is supposed to bring me some from Monterrey tomorrow...fist time in 6 years



Yeah I have, only once though. Don't remember much other than what they looked like... kind of like the picture but much more colourful and less menacing looking.

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Re: language of the elves [Re: ZenClarity]
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ZenClarity said:
tony serro said:
So get a tape recorder and start talking, I heard that's the only way to record ANYTHING with DMT, I wish I would have had one of those on my 7g mushroom trip, pen and paper are like futuristic machinery on 7 grams :lol:




Shit.. even on 3.5 I could never comprehend writing something logical.
hah



Was it your first time? Did you just think you weren't able to write or did you actually try? I never knew a 3.5 was a high dose, first time I did it I took a 3.5 because the people I knew who did mushrooms told me that was a normal dose. I later on found out people eat like 1-2.5 gs. Its a pretty intense experience but I got used to it after a while and could write what I was thinking.


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The most thoroughly and relentlessly damned, banned, excluded, condemned, suppressed,brutalized and defamed of all Damned Things is the individual human being. The social engineers, are perpetually forcing this Damned Thing into carefully prepared blueprints and perpetually irritated that the Damned Thing will not fit into the slot assigned to it. The theologians call it a sinner and try to reform it The governor calls it a criminal and tries to punish it The psychotherapist calls it a neurotic and tries to cure it. Still, the Damned Thing will not fit into their slots. -Robert Anton Wilson

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Re: language of the elves [Re: tony serro]
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tony serro said:
ZenClarity said:
tony serro said:
So get a tape recorder and start talking, I heard that's the only way to record ANYTHING with DMT, I wish I would have had one of those on my 7g mushroom trip, pen and paper are like futuristic machinery on 7 grams :lol:




Shit.. even on 3.5 I could never comprehend writing something logical.
hah



Was it your first time? Did you just think you weren't able to write or did you actually try? I never knew a 3.5 was a high dose, first time I did it I took a 3.5 because the people I knew who did mushrooms told me that was a normal dose. I later on found out people eat like 1-2.5 gs. Its a pretty intense experience but I got used to it after a while and could write what I was thinking.



It was my first time on my first time. lol.... even now.. I mean unless it's some pretty
week shrooms I have  trouble comprehending the meaning of any given word. So
writing down something that's not complete gibberish seems somewhat impossible. I've
not sat down and actually tried though. I weigh like 130 though.. may have something
to do with it.


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Edited by ZenClarity (02/15/10 07:37 AM)

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Re: language of the elves [Re: ZenClarity]
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I weigh less than 130, or I did last time I weighed myself which was a while ago. It sounds hard but if you try its not that hard to write on it.


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The most thoroughly and relentlessly damned, banned, excluded, condemned, suppressed,brutalized and defamed of all Damned Things is the individual human being. The social engineers, are perpetually forcing this Damned Thing into carefully prepared blueprints and perpetually irritated that the Damned Thing will not fit into the slot assigned to it. The theologians call it a sinner and try to reform it The governor calls it a criminal and tries to punish it The psychotherapist calls it a neurotic and tries to cure it. Still, the Damned Thing will not fit into their slots. -Robert Anton Wilson

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Re: language of the elves [Re: tony serro]
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Quote:
McKenna called them 'self-transforming machine elves': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elf

    There's a whole bunch of entities waiting on the other side, saying "How wonderful that you're here! You come so rarely! We're so delighted to see you!"

    They're like jewelled self-dribbling basketballs and there are many of them and they come pounding toward you and they will stop in front of you and vibrate, but then they do a very disconcerting thing, which is they jump into your body and then they jump back out again and the whole thing is going on in a high-speed mode where you're being presented with thousands of details per second and you can't get a hold on [them ...] and these things are saying "Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is, and they say "Don't do that. Pay attention to what we're doing".

    What they're doing is making objects with their voices, singing structures into existence. They offer things to you, saying "Look at this! Look at this!" and as your attention goes towards these objects you realise that what you're being shown is impossible. It's not simply intricate, beautiful and hard to manufacture, it's impossible to make these things. The nearest analogy would be the Fabergé eggs, but these things are like the toys that are scattered around the nursery inside a U.F.O., celestial toys, and the toys themselves appear to be somehow alive and can sing other objects into existence, so what's happening is this proliferation of elf gifts, which are moving around singing, and they are saying "Do what we are doing" and they are very insistent, and they say "Do it! Do it! Do it!" and you feel like a bubble inside your body beginning to move up toward your mouth, and when it comes out it isn't sound, it's vision. You discover that you can pump "stuff" out of your mouth by singing, and they're urging you to do this. They say "That's it! That's it! Keep doing it!".

    We're now at minute 4.5 [of the trip] and you speak in a kind of glossolalia. There is a spontaneous outpouring of syntax unaccompanied by what is normally called "meaning". After a minute or so of this the whole thing begins to collapse in on itself and they begin to physically move away from you. Usually their final shot is that they wave goodbye and say "Deja vu! Deja vu!".




NIIIIIIIIICE. wow now i finally know that i broke through! that is EXACTLY my trip report every time i break through. there are people throwing leaves all around and girls jump in and out of my body with spinning pinwheels. a conductor with a stripped suit is always checking up on me and when the trip comes to a close everyone jumps through windows or closes doors and waves goodbye.

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Re: language of the elves [Re: tealeaf]
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tealeaf said:
Quote:
McKenna called them 'self-transforming machine elves': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elf

    There's a whole bunch of entities waiting on the other side, saying "How wonderful that you're here! You come so rarely! We're so delighted to see you!"

    They're like jewelled self-dribbling basketballs and there are many of them and they come pounding toward you and they will stop in front of you and vibrate, but then they do a very disconcerting thing, which is they jump into your body and then they jump back out again and the whole thing is going on in a high-speed mode where you're being presented with thousands of details per second and you can't get a hold on [them ...] and these things are saying "Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is, and they say "Don't do that. Pay attention to what we're doing".

    What they're doing is making objects with their voices, singing structures into existence. They offer things to you, saying "Look at this! Look at this!" and as your attention goes towards these objects you realise that what you're being shown is impossible. It's not simply intricate, beautiful and hard to manufacture, it's impossible to make these things. The nearest analogy would be the Fabergé eggs, but these things are like the toys that are scattered around the nursery inside a U.F.O., celestial toys, and the toys themselves appear to be somehow alive and can sing other objects into existence, so what's happening is this proliferation of elf gifts, which are moving around singing, and they are saying "Do what we are doing" and they are very insistent, and they say "Do it! Do it! Do it!" and you feel like a bubble inside your body beginning to move up toward your mouth, and when it comes out it isn't sound, it's vision. You discover that you can pump "stuff" out of your mouth by singing, and they're urging you to do this. They say "That's it! That's it! Keep doing it!".

    We're now at minute 4.5 [of the trip] and you speak in a kind of glossolalia. There is a spontaneous outpouring of syntax unaccompanied by what is normally called "meaning". After a minute or so of this the whole thing begins to collapse in on itself and they begin to physically move away from you. Usually their final shot is that they wave goodbye and say "Deja vu! Deja vu!".




NIIIIIIIIICE. wow now i finally know that i broke through! that is EXACTLY my trip report every time i break through. there are people throwing leaves all around and girls jump in and out of my body with spinning pinwheels. a conductor with a stripped suit is always checking up on me and when the trip comes to a close everyone jumps through windows or closes doors and waves goodbye.



Okay thats it... I'm lookin for a DMT tek! lol


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Re: language of the elves [Re: Satyapriya]
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this is what i did...

put 800mL water in a jar. measure out 100g lye in incriments and slowly add to water. let sit for maybe 2-3 hrs. using 100g of mimosa bark put bark in blender until it turns to powder and add to jar with mixed solution. roll jar every couple hrs (2-5) and keep jar next to something warm. wait 24hrs (key!) and use a syringe to take the top yellowish layer without getting ANY ANY black shit at ALL into the syringe. empty into jar, seal, throw in REALLY REALLY cold freezer. about 24hrs later crystals will form. dump liquid from freezer jar back into jar with bark solution. put freezer jar in front of fan, scrape powder when completely dry. done.

this is what i did, there are a ton of teks, this is basically the STB tek. i got 1.5g+ using this method using only 100g mimosa bark.

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Re: language of the elves [Re: tealeaf]
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question
tealeaf said:
this is what i did...

put 800mL water in a jar. measure out 100g lye in incriments and slowly add to water. let sit for maybe 2-3 hrs. using 100g of mimosa bark put bark in blender until it turns to powder and add to jar with mixed solution. roll jar every couple hrs (2-5) and keep jar next to something warm. wait 24hrs (key!) and use a syringe to take the top yellowish layer without getting ANY ANY black shit at ALL into the syringe. empty into jar, seal, throw in REALLY REALLY cold freezer. about 24hrs later crystals will form. dump liquid from freezer jar back into jar with bark solution. put freezer jar in front of fan, scrape powder when completely dry. done.

this is what i did, there are a ton of teks, this is basically the STB tek. i got 1.5g+ using this method using only 100g mimosa bark.



Question:  What brand of lye do you get?  And where do you get mimosa bark?  I normally would assume BBB but I'm afraid to buy from them now to be honest.


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Re: language of the elves [Re: tealeaf]
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DMT is some incredibly fantastic stuff.  I haven't blasted off in over a year...  Waiting for the right time.  I'm a little sore that I didn't explore it's effects outside immersed in nature at all.  All of my exploration was done in my home.

I was loading some DMT into my water pipe, and Levitation Nation was playing.  By the time I was loaded and ready, I took 2 hits and when I exhaled the second hit, the song broke into Periscopes of Consciousness.

As the song unfolded, so did my trip.  I closed my eyes and was soaring high above a jungle.  I came to a vast clearing in the jungle, still flying high above this scenery. There was some pyramid temple of some sort, looked Mayan to me.  I began to circle this pyramid, still flying high, until I became aware that there were thousands of people surrounding this thing, and they were dancing.  they were dancing like hell, every single one of them.  I flew over these people for some time until I became one of them.  I was right there, for real, dancing among thousands of my kind, in glorious celebration.  I gazed at the pyramid, and atop was a cloth canopy with some high priest looking guy under it.  He was chanting prayers and then using a very ornate dagger to decapitate many many many animals.  Of all kinds...  The heads of the animals began rolling down the pyramid, but they were bouncing with the music.  When I looked at the faces, my perception changed and zoomed in incredibly close to this thing, which I have since dubbed, "The Slaughterfall" and I could see that these animals were not very normal animals... they had anthropomorphised features.  almost cartoon like.        and they had ghoulish grins, smirks, winks... a whole arsenal of facial expression, but there were no sad faces, they were all twisted and smiling or sticking their tongues out in encouragement.

I transitioned back and found myself dancing among the people again...  the day became a very very dark starlight night, and I slowly came back to reality.

I was very blown away by the effects the music had over the trip...  Never had an experience like that in silence.  and honestly not sure which I prefer.  both are excellent!


Edit - don't be afraid to order from BBB.  They're still open for business.  You wont find what you're looking for if its MHRB you're after.  but BBB still needs your purchases for the stock the actually have left.

They have a real chance to fight this, but it's going to cost money.  It's a shame to hafta say that, but it's true.  What is happening to them is complete BS, and they haven't done anything illegal, but if they want to get clear of it, it's going to take expensive representation. 

all of Sloan's money was seized so if we are gonna act to stop this violation, we're gonna need to help however we can.


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Edited by BaldoSquemo (02/15/10 11:32 AM)

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Re: language of the elves [Re: BaldoSquemo]
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get the lye from ebay. checked a certain shaman website and they seem to not be selling mimosa bark anymore, so huge bummer, their shit was the best bark ive ever gotten. not sure of any sources, looks like im holding onto the rest of my dmt instead of trading

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