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what to do if colonization slows?
    #3395368 - 11/22/04 09:47 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Ok, well first I'd like to ask advice for what to do if a jar basically halts growth? It seemed to be going well for awhile there but it just like stopped. The temps a LITTLE low, but I have another jar under the same condition thats doing great.

Also, I'd like to show you guys a pic of my incubator. Just made one today. Any comments on it would be appreciated. I have ties holding it down and a sensor shoved inside the inner tubs to tell me the temp and humid inside. I'm running off of a fishtank heater now instead of the heat blanket.



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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: punkgod94]
    #3395374 - 11/22/04 09:48 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

I believe slow colonization is due to dry substrate. Also, might try giving them a little bit of fresh air.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: punkgod94]
    #3395392 - 11/22/04 09:51 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

well the reason may be your fault or it could be one of those things. ive had 3 jars all innoced the same day. 1 is all the way colonized one is 3/4 colonized and one is a little over half. how long has it had halted growth?


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395400 - 11/22/04 09:52 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Also i noticed different strains colonize quicker than others. Like the B+ goes fast, and the PRs take forever.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395404 - 11/22/04 09:53 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

The growth has been halted for probably close to a week....or if not halted its VERY slow compared to the other jar. Im using B+ by the way in the pf tek.

Also, I'd like to ask another question too. My heaters set to 86 degrees and has been for about two hours, but the waters only up to 80 and the inner tubs are at about 75. Should I just bump the heat up to 90 on the heater and hope it raises everything a bit?


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: youbetcha]
    #3395411 - 11/22/04 09:53 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

make sure there are holes in the lid, then just leve it upside down for a few days.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3395422 - 11/22/04 09:55 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

I have 4 holes in the lids of each jar. What does putting them upside down do?


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: punkgod94]
    #3395423 - 11/22/04 09:55 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

what heating method are you using. and i agree with what youbetche said.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395425 - 11/22/04 09:56 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Im using a fishtank heater with the tub in tub method but I just started it today. At first after inoculation I used nothing, and then I moved onto a heating blanket which would shut off after like 30 mins. so it would get irregular heat...id only turn it on when I was around.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395432 - 11/22/04 09:58 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

it lets the mycelium grow easier. when you flip them upside down give them a little tap so theres room inbetween the cakes and the jar. also you can try shaking it up i have noticed a great increase in growth rate once shaken


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395438 - 11/22/04 10:00 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

I'll try shaking it up and putting it upside down. Thanks! But you guys should know that my verm is REALLY fine so i doubt it will open things up that much. I'll post a pic in a minute


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: punkgod94]
    #3395439 - 11/22/04 10:00 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Here's what I'd do. I'd sacrifice one jar for the sake of finding out. Open one and try crumbling the substrate. If it's really tough to break up, then you've probably got dry substrate and it just ran out of moisture. They won't grow without moisture. If it's nice and soft and breaks up easy, then giving them some air should help a bit (tipping them over, removing the tape or seal on the jar, etc)


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395440 - 11/22/04 10:01 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

from my reading in this forum, make sure you tie the 2 tubs together so it allows the water level to be higher which gives them a better heating. and i also have come to understand that it may take a while to warm your tub up if you dont start out with warm water.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: punkgod94]
    #3395445 - 11/22/04 10:01 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Ok I have a few questions

Answer them and I help you find your problem :thumbup:

What type of lid set up do you have ?

Do the stalled jars look greasy in any way ?

To answer the question about your setup. Yes turn the heater up. It is the temp of the jars that should be at 86 degs. What ever it takes to get the jars at 86 degs.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3395457 - 11/22/04 10:03 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)



Thats from like 2 weeks ago...colonization was real slow then cause i kept it at room temp.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395458 - 11/22/04 10:03 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

when you shake you get little bits of mycelium all over the place and soon after it will start growing mycelium in random spots


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395463 - 11/22/04 10:05 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

yeah it definatlly dont look like it will be dried out looks pretty wet.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: youbetcha]
    #3395465 - 11/22/04 10:05 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

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Here's what I'd do. I'd sacrifice one jar for the sake of finding out. Open one and try crumbling the substrate. If it's really tough to break up, then you've probably got dry substrate and it just ran out of moisture. They won't grow without moisture. If it's nice and soft and breaks up easy, then giving them some air should help a bit (tipping them over, removing the tape or seal on the jar, etc)




Id try that but I only have 2 jars that are colonizing and since this is my first grow Id rather just wait it out and see if anything comes of it. Cause having just one jar left and having to allow it to pin and grow some mushrooms still has a lot of chance for screwing up. I sarted the whole thing with 5 jars and Im already down to 2, possibly 1. Do you recommend opening up the lid in that box that you innoculte in to keep contams out?


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395470 - 11/22/04 10:06 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

shaking is also a great way to bruise your mycellium.
What I've been doing is, making tons of jars. Then I just case the best ones and chuck the ones that grow slowly. I find usually that the ones that work well all colonize about the same time (give or take a day or two), and all the rest get chucked. I guess it's sorta like "Surviver", but for shrooms.


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Re: what to do if colonization slows? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3395471 - 11/22/04 10:07 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

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lemon_lw said:
from my reading in this forum, make sure you tie the 2 tubs together so it allows the water level to be higher which gives them a better heating. and i also have come to understand that it may take a while to warm your tub up if you dont start out with warm water.




The water I started with was actually slightly higher than 85 degrees, but it cooled down a little and then I turned the heater on. The two tubs are tied together and the inner tub is definately somewhat submerged in the water.


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