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OfflineCallampin
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Sick sally D (many pix)
    #3376044 - 11/17/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

hi
i have 3 girls from like 2 month ago and theyve been for a bit more than a month under 24/7 coolwhite fluoros and misting 2-3 times a day good hummidity good soil and foliar feeding onc ein a while , i dont really know what could be wrogn with this one it look sick , take a look and tell me what you think

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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3376103 - 11/17/04 09:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure how Saliva compares to Cannabis but if it was I would say overwatering and overfert.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: cb9fl]
    #3376144 - 11/17/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't look too bad to me, Salvia divinorum naturally has kind of droopy leaves. I don't know about overfert, but I would agree with the possibility of overwatering. Whats the soil mix like? I've found that salvia likes fairly well drained soil with more frequent waterings (like once every 1-2 days) rather than gluggy soil and less watering.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3376149 - 11/17/04 09:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have had leaves that lloked like that. There was somesort of bug spinning a silky nest under them.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: zee_werp]
    #3376182 - 11/17/04 09:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The leaves are curling under, especially at the tip. In cannabis that is often indicative of overfert.

But I've never grown or worked with salvia so I don't know.

How fast does salvia grow?


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: cb9fl]
    #3376216 - 11/17/04 09:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

uhm , i dotn think its over watering cause in all the tim eive had them ive watered them 2 times :P an no fert and no bugs under so i just can figure out what can it be


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3376396 - 11/17/04 10:27 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

it looks like mine did when i left them in the rain. jsut got flooded, but if youve barely watered tehn i dunno. could be too hot? mine did that in the summer but it also got crispy and brown tips, maybe since your misting it wont. i dunno im only guessing its heat if not water. i dont keep them NEARLY as warm as i do hemp.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3376669 - 11/17/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

looks like she could use a little sunshine and fresh air




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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3376816 - 11/17/04 11:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i use to grow salvia. To me your plant looks like it has too low of humidity. The plant is used to really high humidity.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3377152 - 11/18/04 01:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with the humidity theory. Your plant looks otherwise healthy except for the beginning of yellowing of the bottom leaves from the slow leaching away of nitrates, and the curling convexity of its leaves shows humidity fluctuations that tend to indicate lower humidities, as if your misting wasn't very effective, maybe due to quick evaporation right out of the box.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: neuro]
    #3379678 - 11/18/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Salvia does not need high humidity to thrive. The plants in question came from a very low humidity environment - they were my plants, that's how I know. I would stop misting those plants so much. I never mist mine. It's not neccessary.
The colour of the leaves looks kind of drained. I would say it's a lighting problem, but on the other hand, the other plant looks very healthy.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3389349 - 11/20/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

so then what should i do? i can encrease lighting to 3 40w daylight tubes , and now i have them under 18/6 light cicles , and i will close the vents to increase humidity i hope that works


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: pae]
    #3390439 - 11/20/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'll agree w/ pae. get some more air moving in there.
after they're adjusted, humidity really isn't an issue. unless u live in a desert.

I usually wait  a while between waterings too. 'till the soil is dry to the touch.

the plants really don't look all that bad for two months.
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I've found that you get really fat leaves with less light. like 12/12.
flouros should be fine.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: aukhalo]
    #3390544 - 11/20/04 09:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

aukhalo said:
i use to grow salvia. To me your plant looks like it has too low of humidity. The plant is used to really high humidity.




this statement is correct. Try puting a plastic bag over your plants for a couple days, then re apply when needed. Salvia will adapt.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3390613 - 11/20/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

also the only thing that looks wrong is that your leaves are curling from the width in (-> <-); the curl from the tip on the leave in is fine. Just add some humidity man they should purk back up in a day or so.

The adapt rather well. you just need to keep on eye on them every once an a while when they look sad.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3395864 - 11/22/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

...but I said in an earlier post that the plants in question were not raised in high humidity. You could adapt them to a higher humidity environment, but what's the point?? Salvia doesn't need the high humidity like everyone keeps saying.


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Re: Sick sally D (many pix) [Re: Callampin]
    #3406440 - 11/25/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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