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OfflineMagikBus
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NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic)
    #336472 - 06/07/01 04:12 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)
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Hello, Its rainy season again here in central florida, and i decided to try my hand at mushroom hunting. We hit a cowfield today, and there was lots of dark-spored mushrooms growing out of cow shit, however they do not look like any others i have seen in pics online. Could someone PLEASE help me identify these shrooms? I am hoping they are the right kind, because there was a fair number growing.

the spors on these gills are a deep brown, and they SORT of bruise blue, but it could be wistful thinking.

here is the pic:

http://www.richard-hatch.com/shrooms.jpg

please hurry with replies! i wanna do sum shroom munchin!



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336497 - 06/07/01 04:45 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say that you have found a look-a-like Copelandia cyanescens, aka blue meanies. At first I thought you had them, but Copelandia cyanescens bruise noticebly blue and have a jet black spore print. I read somewhere that they are the fourth most potent mushroom. Don't give up hope, you may have found the real deal. I can't say 100% for you as I've only found them myself once.

Keep your fingers crossed and wait untill someone with more knowledge then me IDs them before you eat them, although it's highly unlikley that they're poison.

Here's a good link for you, with photos of Copelandia cyanescens and it's look-a-likes:

http://hometown.aol.com/ggreatone234/index.html

Here's some help with your image:


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Edited by oO_wombat_Oo on 06/06/01 09:50 PM.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336507 - 06/07/01 04:58 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, Man those are all Fakes.

Most of them look like Panaeolus antillarum. Non-active.

Good to see your finding mushrooms out there though!
Keep hittin that field up the day after good rains and you may be finding cubies soon!~

What county in central florida is this at??



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #336523 - 06/07/01 05:24 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, are you sure they are ALL the wrong kind? Attached is another pic. I spent a min or two fondleing my shrooms. The results is the ones on the right changed a noticable color, while the one of the left had no color change whatsoever.

the stain (to me) looks a deep blue/brown/black, however I will be the fist to admit that the lighting in my apartment is not the best.

I am over in seminole county.

here is the pic:



BTW, if i accidently eat one of the other kinds, whill i end up rolling over dead? On the pages I visited it said 'non active' but I have no clue is 'non active' means 'your going to shit and cramp all night'



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336526 - 06/07/01 05:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

youll be ok if you eat those.

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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336530 - 06/07/01 05:32 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

yup sure... those are panaeolus antillarum and you have also a p. sphinctrinus far to the right. those mushrooms grow in the same environment that houses what you are looking for... some days non-psilocybian fungi predominate and some others there are only magic ones...



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336536 - 06/07/01 05:39 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Magikbus,

First of all you will be just fine and wont get sick at all from eating any of those mushrooms pictured. Just dont ever do that ever again k?

And the bruiseing on those mushrooms isnt blue, even though your scanner seems to almost give them a tint of blue, theyre definately Panaeolus antillarum, a fake.
-There is one other fake in there, probably Panaeolus sphintrinicus (think i spelled that wrong again), but its the one on the far right of the second picture with the darker brownish/red stem. Its also not a active mushroom.

The Copelandia mushrooms stain positive blue that cant be missed. And yeah they also turn black eventually because theyre so potent. Just keep going out there and youll get better at this every time you go looking and picking. And if you dont have someone with you that really knows how to identify them, just, dont be one bit reluctant to just toss everything you find away. Try again, until your Positive the shrooms are blue. Then, once you learn that then you should have very little problems figureing out which is which.

Keep shroomin
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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #336888 - 06/07/01 05:01 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ok guys, thanks for the expert help. Hopefully with the rain we have been getting there will be more growing about next time.

Also, how fast do these things grow in the wild? Should I check back in a week? 2 weeks?



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #336954 - 06/07/01 07:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys, Some of those mushrooms in the pictures above are Copelandia and some are Pn. antillarum. GGreatOne234 should have noticed the difference.

See if you can tell. I could.

And Panaeolus antillarum has a distict black gilles with sharp white edges. and they are always black with white edges as seen inmy photo below here. I have picked similar Copes in Eudlo and in Adelaide in your country..

Here is a picture of P. antillarum.



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Edited by mjshroomer on 06/07/01 12:08 PM.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #337032 - 06/07/01 08:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

whaaat? which one is the Copelandia ?



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337096 - 06/07/01 11:21 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In that last pic, all 3 mushrooms to the right are active copelandias, the one to the left look inactive.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: Lizard King]
    #337107 - 06/08/01 12:12 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

mjshroomer and Lizard King say some of these are active, GGreatOne234 said they are not.. Ok guys, which one of you is more of an expert? <grin>





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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337128 - 06/08/01 12:41 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna take a guess on the first picture. The first mushie is a cope, the fourth one is a cope and the sixth one is a cope.
Remember, this is only a guess.
I definitely see the bluing in the other pic, the pic with the circles and notes added.I'm with Lizard King's guess on that one.

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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: doo]
    #337174 - 06/08/01 01:36 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In the first pic, I see bluing in all mushrooms except the third and sixth mushroom from the left, but even those still looks like a cope that hadn'y bruised yet.

Thats an odd find. Maybe they are copelandia westii or something?? Every Cope cyan I've ever picked has stained dark blue and eventually to a black. They do take longer than you'd think to bruise, but they will bruise blue as hell if they are cyans. Maybe they just have a low in psilocin content??

Edited by Lizard King on 06/07/01 06:42 PM.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: Lizard King]
    #337196 - 06/08/01 02:03 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

shrug. probably. Out of boredom i showed down on them about 2 hours ago. (stuck them in a Krystal burger... a white castle burger to you norther people) didnt even taste em, grease whiped it out.

Did not feel anything happen. shrug. ah well, mayby some better ones will be growing next time i hit the field.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337201 - 06/08/01 02:08 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Damn dude, you need to quit doing that! Wait until your absolutely sure about what you have before you eat it.



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337230 - 06/08/01 02:37 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Naw, you dont want to eat any of those.

There is no mixing and matching here.

Its either Bluing or it isnt, regardless of species.

Keep going out there and picking and learning and enjoy doing it. What you should really have your mind set towards is first finding Psilocybe cubensis, the golden teacher.

Never eat anything that isnt positively a shroom.
Heres a new picture gallery of copelandias were building;
http://gallery.copelandia.org/
Those are all positive.
Especially look at the three harvest pictures with the red backround, every cope you see there is blue.

I dont mess around when I bring my harvests home. It takes hours to go through pounds of copelandias checking each one for a positive sign of blue. Theres always a few questionable copes at the end that i have to toss because they just dont look positive.

Floridas shroom season seems only days away now.

Thats my advice to you,
Keep shroomin,
GG



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337247 - 06/08/01 03:06 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Bhahahaha! Why do you keep eating them without IDs? You're pretty game - or pretty keen (or pretty stupid <wink>).

My guess is 1st and 4th in 1st picture,
and 3rd one in the 2nd picture



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #337265 - 06/08/01 03:23 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

grin, i did not 'keep' eating them. I only ate like 3 of them, the ones that bruissed. shrug, what can i say, i was bored and they were sitting on my table, mocking me. :P

ah well, almost 4 hours later and i felt fine. so i smoked a bowl and forgot about it. <G>

nah, im not nuts enough to go eating wotever shrooms i happen to find laying around. I am just having a bout of 'shroom fever'. I need shroooms! aaah!



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Re: NEED IDENTIFICATION HELP! (pic) [Re: MagikBus]
    #337427 - 06/08/01 07:06 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

I only ate like 3 of them ...  they were sitting on my table, mocking me


Hehehe. That'll teach 'em!  If they where really 'mocking you', I don't think you need any extra psychoactives! :laugh:

I think that's what happens to on a good dose actually - the plants and flowers laugh at me in a mocking way, I just laugh back at them.



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