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InvisibleZippoZM
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i get my glassblowing supplies this week, update i got the shit! and im blowing some bowls :)
    #3340057 - 11/10/04 05:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have always wanted to try my hand at this and now i finally have a chance. lets hope i get good soon, beacuse i spent y future rent money about $600 worth on this setup!!!
lucky for me there is a glass blowing studio literally 2 miles from me, and its the only one within an hour of milwaukee too, so yeah, woo hoo.

anyways ill be blowing some tight ass pipes, and pendants and if i can find a digi cam ill show yall some pics, assuming that i dont blow myself up...


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3340062 - 11/10/04 05:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

damn dood im jealous. i wish i had the motivation you do to do that. it would be such a fun hobby. cant wait for pics...gonna be tradin/selling some i hope.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: kadakuda]
    #3340065 - 11/10/04 05:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Great man, can't wait to see pics! Does the head shop let you obvserve people blowing glass?


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: DMTelepath]
    #3340072 - 11/10/04 05:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice. I could get interested in something like that.
Keep us all updated on how you go.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Hanky]
    #3340534 - 11/10/04 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Start off by making beads, pendants and marble. You'll get a feel for the glass and how to make interesting color combinations and decorations and such. After you're comfortable with the glass making smaller simpler items, you'll be beter prepared for making pieces. And don't be upset if your first pieces aren't that great either.... practice!


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3342133 - 11/10/04 04:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You're not going to blow yourself up on one little torch :wink:

Like Gr8fulJ said, start out small and don't be upset when your first few pieces don't turn out. Use lots of clear and cheap glass in the beginning and work your way up to the expensive stuff when you are more confident with your hands. Always remember not to stare in to that flame for too long! Your eyes are precious, take lots of little breaks.

Another hint is to get a big terra cotta tray (the kind that fits under the terra cotta pots for plants, at any local garden store... or you could use a pot too). The bigger the better, and fill it with vermiculite. Put your beads in the verm so that they cool down slowly when you're done with them.

Best of luck, and congrats on your set! I expect to see lots for trade here on the forums :smile:


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3342167 - 11/10/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wont be lamp working but I found a buddy thats going to be my partner using a glory hole. I never met him but I had a couple cases of glass tubes for sale. ANd a friend of mine told him about my glass. So we got talkin and now for 150 for a whole day we get to do all we want in the shop. Use all the glass we can and use his kilms for a simple flat rate. Not bad in my opion all day equals a lot of stuff. Probably going to see him this weekend for details.

Well man have fun with the torch. Its a good good good hobby and a wonderful way of passing the time.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3342331 - 11/10/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, that seems like it would be a lot of fun. With my luck I would just burn myself though - be careful!


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3342338 - 11/10/04 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dont even think about doing anything if you dont have super good ventalation and a pair of glasses.... 

if you follow the code of glassblowing, you cannot moraly sell anything not put in the kiln to cool properly.... i havent tried the vermiculite trick, but i heard if ypu put verm in a crock pot, then crank it up, you can get away with beads like that.

dont use lots of color, it's hella expensive to learn that way.

oh, and remember the first rule: "Glassblowers get burned" and dont be supprised if you loose some fingerprints for awhile on a 3rd degree surface burn :wink: :lol: it sucks


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3342347 - 11/10/04 05:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Want to make me a crazy bubbler :grin:

yes...no...maybe...:crazy2:


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Phychotron]
    #3342476 - 11/10/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I suggest people go to the Eugene Glass school. I been going to classes on glass blowing for a few years. Its in oregon. They teach their students very well.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Phychotron]
    #3342515 - 11/10/04 05:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Verm in a crockpot on high will work. Anoher workable method is using an old coffee can filled with verm, placed on a hotplate. Those methods will suffice for small beads and marbles, but once you start making heady pieces they should definately be annealed.

neodynium (sp?) glasses are a must!


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #3342623 - 11/10/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

as for the annealing, im going to Ring of fire glassowrks tomorrow to get some tubing, and im going to try and work out a deal with one of the guys there to use the kiln that they have.
i have some glasses, and shades (level 5 tint) to go over them which are equivelent to a pair of boroscopes, i value my eyes quite a bit.

the things i am concerned aobut are my ventilation and my propane.
i have a 20lb grill tank the i am going to be using in my room in my appartment, which has 3 other people living in it. apparently it is illegal to have it in the house, but i have flashback arrestors, to prevent explosion, and the tank will be kept on the balcony when not in use.

as for ventilation, ihave a box fan in my window, and the rest of the window taped off with plastic and cardboard, i did the incense test and as long as i have my door open i have good ventilation, i am however concerned about the other apartment buiolding in the vacinity.
noone has their windows open as it is very cold outside, but im still wondering how toxic my emissions might be to the other people in the neighborhood.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #3342627 - 11/10/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

those glasses are over a 100 bucks but way cheaper then new eyes.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3342638 - 11/10/04 06:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You realy need a hood above your work stations sucking out the gas as the torch blows into it.


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3342686 - 11/10/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea, a hood is ideal, however, for fuming, i've heard from a lot of people that the fumes dont get sucked up, they stay toward the bottom, and that ventalation that sucks the air straight is better.

i know the type of glasses your getting, the rose didium, you should definetly get a pair of the clip on shade 5's for $35 from frantz.
http://www.frantzartglass.com/Itemdesc.a...=153005&Tp=
(ok, i was wrong, only $18)...

but see the comments "if you arent using a proper pair of glasses... temp... replace periodicaly..."


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: Phychotron]
    #3343174 - 11/10/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1 Phillips - Large Economy Plastic Frame

$40.00 $40.00
Phillips202 $40.00
1 Plastic Clip-On/Flip-Up Shade

$20.00 $20.00
Shade #5

those are my glasses, and im pretty sure that they are top notch. i was very concerned about my eyes and when talking to the owner of the shop i purchased from i was sure to explain that in detail. hence my buying better glasses than rose iddiums.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3343186 - 11/10/04 08:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oh and btw ill be happy to make any of you some nice glass "art" when im good and ready.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3345975 - 11/11/04 11:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Heady glass art for trade! We expect to see lots, and all glassblowers like to trade things :laugh:


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Re: i get my glassblowing supplies this week!!!!!!! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3348456 - 11/11/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i always thought glass blowing looked like the coolest thing
but i don't think i could ever do it

i'm kinda clumsy and might burn my hand off

i'f buy a pipe from you if you're any good


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