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fungis_eata said:
Does anyone here beleive in the secret society and their NWO plans?

or any other consperacies for that matter?

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how can something still be considered a 'secret' society when we know it exists, who the members are, where they do their big yearly rituals, and what their 'secret' agenda is?

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We obviously don't know it exists b/c we are here debating, no? We don't know who is involved (just a faint idea) or where their rituals are (perhaps Bohemian Gardens is just a show to make it not be as bad as it is?)- They wouldn't have top celebs in charge of the world...its that simple.

In all honesty...it is just like Kaoiwas said:

If it does exist, we don't know about it( or have proof of it rather). That simple...that's why its a true secret society not like the Freemasons where everyone and their brother is a member.  (although peeps at the top of Freemasons might have things under control (i.e. pawns)).  Also, the Illuminati is a bloodline (like J4SOn mentioned)..atleast the ones at the top are definitely all of a certain type....


I'd like to do what I can and help change this thread into bunch of ties between the USA govt. and the Illuminati/connections...I'll start..(you'll know what I think of it at the end)

START


Both the Illuminati and the USA were founded in the same year. (1776)

The true symbol of the Illuminati (pyramid) finds its way onto our currency.
          - This occurs with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913
          - This same action establishes a privately owned centralized # of banks(FRBs)          that now control the flow of money in the US (i.e. print and pull as they please)
          - Our money slowly makes the change from being backed by precious metals, to nothing at all!!...allowed by the institution of the FRBank.
          -The Bank(s) are not Federal or a Reserve(backed by metals)
          - This Act is slipped by congress during Christmas break and President Wilson signed it...he later regretted this and the fate of his nation because of his actions (this is in KOTT's Thread)...here is a quote from him, postaction:

"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." --President Woodrow Wilson


Here's some more Federal Reserve Bank quotes:
  "We are completely dependant on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon."
--Robert H. Hamphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank


I'd like to clear something from KOTT's thread up that I screwed up: 

I said that the FBR prints the money at will and gives it to the Treasury...in fact the Treasury prints it, but at the will of the FBR...so it is equivalent in the power given to the FBR, the roles are kinda switched though...This will make it clear..and bug you out..

"The Federal Reserve system pays the U.S. Treasury 020.60 per thousand notes --a little over2 cents each-- without regard to the face value of the note. Federal Reserve Notes, incidently, are the only type of currency now produced for circulation. They are printed exclusively by the Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and the $20.60 per thousand price reflects the Bureau's full cost of production. Federal Reserve Notes are printed in 01, 02, 05, 10, 20, 50, and 100 dollar
denominations only; notes of 500, 1000, 5000, and 10,000 denominations were last printed in 1945." --Donald J. Winn, Assistant to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve system

Just think about that...

"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States" -- Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

One more bank issue:

JFK was assassinated 2 months after signing two bills that did away with the way the FRB was handling things- I think one bill was to nix their plans and the other was to insitute a lil less than 5 billion in 5 dollars bills that were all backed by gold (and said so on them). He was killed and the bills were never followed through with.

Look it up if you don't believe me.


New World Order

I think this is what it ultimately comes down to...

Do you know what FEMA is? The Federal Emergency Management Administration was created in 1979 under Carter by Presidential Memorandum 32- this was authored by a guy named Sam Huntington (prof at Harvard and former FEMA board advisor). This guy later wroted a book called Crisis in Democracy in which he says:

"We have come to recognize that there are potential desirable limits to economic growth. There are also potentially desirable limits to the indefinite extension of political democracy. A government which lacks authority will have little ability short of cataclysmic crisis to impose on its people the sacrifices which may be necessary."

This will make more sense when joined with the following:

In 1982, FEMA gets more power when the National Security Decision Directive #47 is passed under Reagan. It sets up a thing called the Emergency Mobilization Preparedness which basically says that in case of a national emergency, the laws don't apply to the people in control anymore. Now Bush in 1990 passes Public Law 101-647 which then completes the jig: This Law basically says that if the Pres declares a national emergency- then everything and I mean everything, gets handed over to FEMA. FEMA can do whatever, whenever...the Constitution, etc. doesn't apply. This is their bully...watch out.



Now- you can call me crazy- but I don't wear a tinfoil hat and am pretty well read. And I can firmly say that through my experience and gain of knowledge in this world, that I beieve that everything I wrote above is true..more than you and I think.

This War on Terror- try war on the American public. Wait 'til the next one hits and we lose more of our freedoms (e.g. Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act, which I won't even go into). It might not be for a couple more times...but it'll escalate to FEMA control.

And I'm outta here before then.


THERE IS SO MUCH MORE! I encourage people to add stuff, I prolly will if this thread doesn't die:O . I barely even touched on a lot of shit. J4son and tnecseda, both very good points. Keep it up. We need awareness.