Luv_the_cyans said a few things which make no sense and tells me he does not know what he is talking about.
First he said:
Quote: They really like the alders though, every big patch iv found is right in an alder forest. If you can find blackberries around an alder bush you are set.
There is no such [plant as an Alder bush. Alder is a teree which can grow up to 30 to 50 feet in height. IT can reach twenty feet in three years. It is never a bush.
and quoted from my site about alders.
Quote: take a look at this these
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_cultivation6.shtml
http://www.thehawkseye.com/pcyan/pcyan.html
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species29b.htm
They seem to mention alders strangely enough? And that tek sounds similar to what i said.
I am going school on van island right now so i dont have immediate access, but i am going home for thanksgiving. I will be sure to get pictures of my patch and others if they are thriving .
Just because they are pinning it does not mean they are at their prime.
And if no one believes me thats alright, more shrooms for me!
He uses my site, Hawkseye site and Erowid for hias source.
using my site for a reference. However, I do not mention alder forests as noted in my quote from my page on P. cyanescens at my website which actually says:
Quote: All images posted below were photographed between October of 1997 through December 2000. They were found fruiting in alder branches and mulch.
It says nothing about alder forests.
The Hawkseye website you posted the URL also says alder mulch in several sentences, not alder forests
From Hawkseye site:
Quote: On the first day of hunting, our first stop was a church, where the sacred mushroom was growing on sacred grounds, I knew it was going to be a good day and a nice mushroom vibe after that. We found these growing among the alder mulch around the church.
and
Quote: a nice little patchgrowing amongts some leaves, alder mulch and rhododendron bushes.
and
Quote: The next patch we found was growing among some large shrubs in the alder mulch. I doubt anybody would have known these were there if it had not been for John's resourcefullness of walking for hours a day looking in places ppl wouln't think of. We literally had to walk among some waste high bushes and move them aside to see them growing down underneith the bushes. These were the largest in size that we found of all the patches, they ranged from 4" to 6" in height, and had caps about 2-3" in diameter.
and
Quote: One thing we found depressing is the psilocybe mushrooms are on a big decline in the Seattle area. Most landscaping is no longer being done with alder mulch, but there using some kind of red ceder mulch instead, and the psilo's dont thrive in that.
The places you want to look are anywhere that looks like fresh alder mulch has been planted in the last year or two. We found them right around ppl houses and buildings, in road dividers, in grass near alder mulch, around school campuses.. all sorts of places. The largest patches were about 8X the size of that little patch by the church, but I forgot my camera in the car...DOH!!!!
ANd the Erowid quote of Gartz, qwho in 1991 collected such mulche with me in Oregon and Washington also does not say alder forest but branches of alder or maple, And the steer-co is a local brand of alder mu7clch from Sawdust supply near harbor island in Seattle.
Gartz said:
Quote: In the pacific northwest, during collection of Psilocybe cyanescens, the woody substrate is also collected in autumn if strong mycelia are visible. These are put on fresh pieces (2-6cm length) of maple or alder. For the best results a 1:5 ratio of spawn to fresh chips is recommended. The wood chips are kept in containers or bags with minimal air supply and incubate between 4-20 deg. Celsius. At 4deg. there are practically no contaminations.
On pure bark the mycelium grows only slowly and without rhizomorphes. It does not occur on the red cedar mulch.
Next spring freshly cut alder and mabple branches are used for proper cultivation. These pieces are filled in pits of about 60cm wide and 8-13cm deep, under shadowy shrubs like Rhododendron. The totally ocergrown wood chips of the prparatory culture are mixed by hand before filling the pit. Then the material is covered with plastic or cardboard (also a usefull substrate) and watered once a week. There should be no direct sunlight on the cultures. In september with moderate temperatures or later the cover is removed and the cultures must be watered, depending on the amount of rain - not flooded. The first mushrooms appear under humid circumstances in a temperature range of about 8-14 deg.C. This method is also useful for P. stuntzii and P. baeocystis and for the edible Stropharia rugosoannulata. P. cyanescens occurs also spantaneously in mulched parks and gardens as the other species.
Comments, from the rest of the article:
Instead of wood chips comercially available mulch (steer-co) works nice, but not cedar mulch.
Fructification ends with the beginning of frost periods but will continue several years. In spring the pits can be extended with fresh wood-material.
But none of those URL's you posted say Alder forests.
mj
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