gww said:

I have never had everything destroyed.  Some but not all.  It is just so easy outside if you go into it not caring if you lose some.  I would say the biggest disadvantage is that frost picks when they are done.

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gww said:

I can't compare because I never grew inside.  It is why I ask.  I had like five plants blow over and I set them back up and put a metal fence post by them and they all finished.  I got some bud rot from worms but not on every thing.  Mostly though, you get pounds and not rotating smaller amounts for no money.  I really like hearing your experience and thoughts, as I have watched you do both.

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RobbieLattig said: Outdoor growing sounds simple until weather and bugs start making the calls.

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That’s why you gotta plan ahead, use posts with netting, BT, and of course, grow more than you will need to account for some inevitable loss. It’s really not hard if you treat it like any other outdoor crop

Icyurmt said:

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RobbieLattig said: Outdoor growing sounds simple until weather and bugs start making the calls.

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That’s why you gotta plan ahead, use posts with netting, BT, and of course, grow more than you will need to account for some inevitable loss. It’s really not hard if you treat it like any other outdoor crop

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spirit_shadow said:

Icyurmt said:

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RobbieLattig said: Outdoor growing sounds simple until weather and bugs start making the calls.

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That’s why you gotta plan ahead, use posts with netting, BT, and of course, grow more than you will need to account for some inevitable loss. It’s really not hard if you treat it like any other outdoor crop

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None of those solutions kill the millions of leafhoppers that carry phytoplasma around me...I would have to build an enclosed greenhouse to grow outside....and that wouldn't technically be outside anymore if I did that anyway 😞

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Leafhoppers are a pest we all have to deal with outdoors as they migrate each season with the wind.

Ladybugs, praying mantis, minute pirate bugs, neem, spinosad, etc. can all be used against hoppers depending on how bad they get. Genetics also seem to play a significant role in pest prevention and certain plants seem to attract leafhoppers more than others; using seeds from plants that were infected with phytoplasma or from plants that seem more susceptible to leaf hopper attacks should be avoided.



I go around collecting mantis ootheca in the late winter and stick them in the fence around my garden. They are great for many pests not just hoppers; they start hunting as soon as they hatch and continue right up to harvest. You may not be able to control the environment outdoors the same way that you can indoors, but you can work with it.