Envix said:

so you just automatically claim yourself to be intellectually superior to every person of faith who has ever existed

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No.

Firstly, theology is not an intellectual pursuit, it is a "spiritual" one (And therefore, in my view, foolish). That doesn't mean that everyone who is religious is stupid, generally. Intelligent people have been known to engage in silly things from time to time, and in this case, there is good reason for it:

Children are brainwashed from an early age into religion, and religion uses such devices as Pascal's Wager, to blackmail young minds.



The fact of the matter is, if you are religious, you almost certainly follow the religion your parents raised you with, and it's nothing to do with some sort of intellectual process of elimination. It's because they brainwashed you. I personally consider it to be child abuse, but that's just me...

I think that an agnostic person may be on relatively similar intellectual footing as an atheist, but anyone who claims to know something, without any evidence whatsoever is not engaging in any sort of intellectual process.

These things are objectively true. You shouldn't take it personally.

SARAtonin said:

It always amazes me how many people on a site about mushrooms are so opposed to spirituality.

Like, if you haven’t witnessed the infinite and danced with angels at the end of time you probably haven’t done enough mushrooms.

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I can have a profound spiritual experience on shrooms and then sober up and acknowledge that I was just high on powerful psychedelic drugs

SARAtonin said:

It always amazes me how many people on a site about mushrooms are so opposed to spirituality.

Like, if you haven’t witnessed the infinite and danced with angels at the end of time you probably haven’t done enough mushrooms.

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I don't think there is any correlation between religiousity and hallucinogen consumption, but I suppose I could be wrong.

I have had experiences on drugs that I would place in the realm of "spiritual", I suppose, and to be clear, I consider myself to be agnostic. That's a far cry from the sort of claims and beliefs that someone who follows organized religion subscribes to.
I don't see any relation between the two things, honestly.

One thing I will add: It has been my experience that if you want to make an otherwise good person do awful things, the only way to do it is with religion. I would not care, and wouldn't even bother to voice my opinion on this matter, if it weren't such a detriment to humanity.

Bigbadwooof said:

The fact of the matter is, if you are religious, you almost certainly follow the religion your parents raised you with, and it's nothing to do with some sort of intellectual process of elimination. It's because they brainwashed you. I personally consider it to be child abuse, but that's just me...

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Bigbadwooof said:

SARAtonin said:

It always amazes me how many people on a site about mushrooms are so opposed to spirituality.

Like, if you haven’t witnessed the infinite and danced with angels at the end of time you probably haven’t done enough mushrooms.

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I don't think there is any correlation between religiousity and hallucinogen consumption, but I suppose I could be wrong.

I have had experiences on drugs that I would place in the realm of "spiritual", I suppose, and to be clear, I consider myself to be agnostic. That's a far cry from the sort of claims and beliefs that someone who follows organized religion subscribes to.
I don't see any relation between the two things, honestly.

One thing I will add: It has been my experience that if you want to make an otherwise good person do awful things, the only way to do it is with religion. I would not care, and wouldn't even bother to voice my opinion on this matter, if it weren't such a detriment to humanity.

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Envix said:

Bigbadwooof said:

The fact of the matter is, if you are religious, you almost certainly follow the religion your parents raised you with, and it's nothing to do with some sort of intellectual process of elimination. It's because they brainwashed you. I personally consider it to be child abuse, but that's just me...

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i was baptised and raised catholic, and now i am muslim. so that sorta throws a wrench in that theory of yours doesn't it

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islandsss said:

SARAtonin said:

It always amazes me how many people on a site about mushrooms are so opposed to spirituality.

Like, if you haven’t witnessed the infinite and danced with angels at the end of time you probably haven’t done enough mushrooms.

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I can have a profound spiritual experience on shrooms and then sober up and acknowledge that I was just high on powerful psychedelic drugs

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SARAtonin said:

I’m the last person on this planet to be defending organized religion and I’ll agree with you but also say a lot more evil is done every day in the name of money than in the name of religion.

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It always amazes me how many people on a site about mushrooms are so opposed to spirituality.

Like, if you haven’t witnessed the infinite and danced with angels at the end of time you probably haven’t done enough mushrooms

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Bigbadwooof said:

Pascal's Wager

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Bigbadwooof said:

The fact of the matter is, if you are religious, you almost certainly follow the religion your parents raised you with

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SARAtonin said:

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Nice try...

... That's not bigfoot