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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: sudly]
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Two state solution would likely be what it was like pre oct 7th. Which was still zionism. No leftist or socialist should ever advocate for that. That would be foolish.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: trepanationexprt]
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That sounds like the difference between ethnic cleansing and genocide.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: sudly]
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Why should the American “left” have to choose between those two at all. it’s retarded.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Pretty easy thought experiment -
If Germany's crimes in the 30s and 40s were committed by 2 parties instead of 1, would you vote for one of those parties?

Would you support a politician that publicly argued that Germany should receive "defensive" weapons as they were committing the holo caust?
No you wouldn't. So why support AOC?

Would you support a politician that was against ending the holocaust for over a year, blamed Germany's victims for their own slaughter, and constantly reaffirmed Nazi Germany's right to exist? No you wouldnt. So why support Bernie Sanders

Both of these are supported by hasan and mamdani.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: trepanationexprt]
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trepanationexprt said:
Pretty easy thought experiment -
If Germany's crimes in the 30s and 40s were committed by 2 parties instead of 1, would you vote for one of those parties?

Would you support a politician that publicly argued that Germany should receive "defensive" weapons as they were committing the holo caust?
No you wouldn't. So why support AOC?

Would you support a politician that was against ending the holocaust for over a year, blamed Germany's victims for their own slaughter, and constantly reaffirmed Nazi Germany's right to exist? No you wouldnt. So why support Bernie Sanders

Both of these are supported by hasan and mamdani.



How'd you get bernie sanders confused with chuck schumer?


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: sudly]
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If only I wasn’t describing sanders. :lol::pout:


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: trepanationexprt] * 2
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What even is the difference?

Genocide is both defined and recognized as a crime under international law -- ethnic cleansing is not, it's more of a descriptive term -- too often I see ethnic cleansing used as a euphemism for genocide, rather than referring to anything substantially different

Israel's genocide didn't begin on Oct 8th -- that's just when a preponderance of evidence began to make it impossible to hide


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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Israel's genocide didn't begin on Oct 8th -- that's just when a preponderance of evidence began to make it impossible to hide


Yes that’s the point two state solution is just gonna be the same thing all over again.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Quote:
Before the reign of Roman Emperor Constantine (who legalized Christianity in 313 CE), the Middle East did not have a single, countable "number" of religions; rather, the region was a vast mosaic of dozens of distinct regional, imperial, and local belief systems divided across major empires and tribal groups.



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Almost all of the modern Middle East and North Africa was predominantly Christian (under the Byzantine or Eastern Roman Empire) before the 7th-century Arab-Islamic conquests.




Who is to say they are free under Hamas?

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: durian_2008]
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I don’t think words are needed.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: trepanationexprt]
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They have refused full citizenship rights as ordinary Israelis.

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