smalltalk_canceled said:

Hello shroomery

This year my cyanescens bed really took off




Thinking of making a football size bed, just gotta connect with the right kind of farmer.

This year i was able to time the picking enough to do prints, share it on Norwegian reddit, and get in contact with around ten persons who want to start cyanescens in Norway

I hope you all are doing excellent, really miss being here. Seriously miss you all so much

Big hugs

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smalltalk_canceled said:

What  is the most correct substrate for cyanescens

A) out of grains or sawdust for spawn

B) a third suggestion?

C) what is the most correct bulk substrate to mix the spawn with for really huge beds?

I want maximum longevity

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fiddle_head said:

I had a few questions and wanted to get a general idea so i made a template of a few basic superficial questions before i decided to really get into the meat and potatoes of the subject. I was going to post in qqqa thread but felt I honestly might get more info or mroe responses here specifically. i have samples of live cyanescens, ovoids, and luteofolius i want to grow. The ovoids are native to my exact area and are a gift from a close friend. For each question i guess i would like to just know what and why:

easiest to grow

Ovoids and cyans are both easy to grow, I have struggled a bit more with Gymnopilus sp, but have no experience with luteofolius

hardest to grow

most potent

Cyans are most potent here, followed by ovoids, then luteo. Gymnopilus sp aren't potent in general, cyan-azure-alleni-subaeruginosa are about three times as potent as cubes, ovoids are ime about twice as potent as cubes. Others say on par.


most recently discovered

Cyans have been described in the 1940s, ovoids '00s and luteofolius idk.

fastest growing (or all relatively similar)

Ovoid myc is voracious. Cyan clade too. Gymnopilus colonize pretty fast but I haven't had them on large subs yet.


some other things i am curious about:

best grain for cyans/ovoids (probably any..)
best brands hardwood chips or sawdust to get if i can't acquire local independnet and have to go to tractor supply, home depot or wal mart.
ratios for h2o and substrate for cyans/ovoids

they don't give a fuck really. I've grown them via PF cakes, millet, rye and agar straight to chips. The important thing is to get the spawn on woodchips and then you can just keep expanding that.

I also want to know the best propagation and methodology in a tight nutshell for growing cyans and ovoids specifically, if anyone is willing to teach me. I've always been a cube guy, but I'm looking to expand my horizons now that I have a trusted and safe environment to propagate.

My sop is agar -> grain -> sterilized chips. At full colonization the chips go to more (untreated) chips. Make beds in a shaded, plant-covered area. Dig out some topsoil and make a lasagna of colonized chips and buckets or bigbags worth of untreated chips. It takes several months to colonize and often doesn't fruit the same year. Once it starts fruiting, I just add a new layer of chips in Dec - Feb and that's basically it.
Or just throw a jar of colonized chops in a planter and cover with more chips. Once yiu chip you're gonna trip.

I'm going to UTSF but if anyone is willing to help me kickstart that a little bit it's worth a post. i want to start this month, before halloween. I'm waiting on my next paycheck to acquire materials, but I already have most everything i need. Hopefully I can grow these out successfully but wanted to make an introductory (sort-of) post to the thread because I'm interested in it. I'll post my results and better yet even come back and present any good links i found, i will probnably come back with more questions and some answers.

Just be on the lookout for a source of woodchips. An arborist, or a municipal dump site, someone with a chipper...

For now I guess I'm just looking for some concrete fundamentals about woodies and what to expect vs what's required, as well as any potential risks or pitfalls I may not consider or are not generally considered.

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Baba Yaga said:

smalltalk_canceled said:

Hello shroomery

This year my cyanescens bed really took off




Thinking of making a football size bed, just gotta connect with the right kind of farmer.

This year i was able to time the picking enough to do prints, share it on Norwegian reddit, and get in contact with around ten persons who want to start cyanescens in Norway

I hope you all are doing excellent, really miss being here. Seriously miss you all so much

Big hugs

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Hey Smalltalk good to see you, and very nice Cyan patch!

Very strange coincidence but I woke up in the middle of the night last night and ended up seeing that you haven't posted in a while and was thinking how you are doing. Looks like you are doing well and still thinking big!

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Generic said:

yeah good to see you smalltalk

smalltalk_canceled said:

What  is the most correct substrate for cyanescens

A) out of grains or sawdust for spawn

B) a third suggestion?

C) what is the most correct bulk substrate to mix the spawn with for really huge beds?

I want maximum longevity

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I say agar to wood chips, this time of year.  we have enough time to expand to more wood chips later before spring.  the time window is here for grain free woodlovers.

edit* wait, you are saying that you are out of grains and sawdust, as in you don't have any, right?  or out of grains or sawdust, which is the best? 

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Nilo1983 said:

Has anyone ever tried spawning Ps. cyanescens colonized rye grain to a bulk substrate of coco coir and vermiculite, maybe with some sawdust added, letting it colonize for a week or two, and then putting it outside in the current weather conditions?

I’m curious whether it would actually fruit under those conditions or if anyone has any experience with this.

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