Generic said:

I think digging at all can cause problems in wet climates.  I stopped digging at all and just dump/spread wood chips mixed with spawn on top of the soil.  I've seen patches 'drown'

Nature layers

I wouldn't put anything synthetic in the soil, either, it will stay there forever

why'd you dig so much?  maybe dig it differently/add dirt back to make sure it just drains well?

with an az patch that fruited last fall, i just mixed wood chips with wood chip spawn in a tote, then dumped it on top of all the plants, in a low spot where water would settle, but it's on top, enough for it to drain naturally. then i top dressed it with some more raw wood chips.

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Well most of why I dug was because I don't know shit about woodlovers or making beds/patches

My thinking was that there isn't much headspace under the shrub and I really don't want the chips to start falling out of the bed and on to my lawn, pluss I thought I needed some depth to my patch, and to be honest I need shit to look level and nice

The bark cloth I have is hemp so with time it will go back to the earth. And yes I will put leca at the bottom because it's basically a stone pit filled with soil(it was there when I bought the house) and then put back some of the soil I dug out and only then will I start to fill in with chips, what kind of depth should I go for?

That spot never gets direct sunlight so I guess I don't need any soil on top, that sound good?

Generic said:

Thanks tweeq, I've been doing it that way too, thanks to you and others.

Here is a bag of wood chips w/ ovoid clone. - This bag is 8.6lbs (3.9kg)


The ovoid clone I started early this year is a clone from Nichrome's New Jersey culture, which may be a later fruiter compared to other ovoids.

Nichrome said:

The original spores were gifted to me and were collected from wild found ovoids in a park in Atlantic City NJ USA.  These are east coast native genetics. I find them to be unique to other ovoids in that they like to fruit in the early heat of erly summer/late spring. I have not seen any fall flushes with these.

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I got an ovoid culture from WA, which originally came from Seattle / Alaskappalachian. - It's on grain now.

Quote:

The Washington ovoid clone came to me via alaskappalachian, who said: "Actually - fun fact: that ovoid clone may actually be an undescribed or super rare thing.  Alan Rockefeller made a visual guess at it, but considered it pretty unusual.  Wish I could find the photos.  Anywho, it looked rad." I couldn't find the post he refered to, maybe it was on Mushroom Observer or iNaturalist, but there is this one from way back, sadly with broken pictures: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14345636#14345636

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I'm hesitant to run another culture of ovoideocystidiata, but i'm curious to see if these cultures are much different, east/west coast. 

Churp, what ovoid culture have you been tasting? 


What do you all think about differences in ovoid cultures?  fruiting times?  effects?  different species possibly? 

And how long have ovoids been on the west coast?  are they recently more common because of introduction/cultivation?  or have they been here all along

Ovoid love

(same ovoid clone in a bag of sawdust spawn)

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Well done kloakk

Last year I spawned some 10-month-old Azurescens wood chip spawn that had been inoculated with grain to sterilized chips in July of the previoius year (I lost track/forgot about them).  They were spawned to wood chips outdoors in May.  This was that bag in May.    They fruited a little bit their first year of being spawned (fall 2025), mostly side pins in a pot.

Nichrome said:

Please keep me informed of how it unfolds for you over time. 
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I find that mixing them with semperviva is an especially synergistic, balanced, and enhanced experience that is unique to either one on its own. They work well together as a team.
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Do they pop in the fall for you ever

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I ate these for dinner 4/13/2026.  It was a great dose for me; i guessed it to be about equivalent of .5g dry.  That guess felt right on, with a little extra psilocin somethings in the fresh mushrooms.  I enjoy less, often half that dose, too(.25g dry)

These are not my choice mushroom for high-dose experiences, alone.  Not because things get wild and crazy at high doses, but because for me, they don't (but there is more body load).    I've been comparing them to alcohol in my head, where taking more doesn't necessarily make it that much better.  I often feel great at low doses, though, and have thought about re-dosing more than with any other mushrooms.  I might try that, with other types involved. 
I have been thinking these would be great to synergize with other mushrooms, too, and I will try that.  Don't have any semperviva though.


The ovoids have not popped in the fall for me, no, and I've still never seen any other psilocybe fruit in the spring.  The patch that fruited last year was in may, this year it's april.  They're just figuring things out here.



Churpee, It's funny that you say you'll recommend this for first-time shoomers.  I've been thinking about this, and agree that ovoids are very gentle, (also safe, trusted, tame) and that likely nothing too wild and scary is going to happen to an unprepared mind.  But, it may not have the same wow-factor that other mushrooms, including cubensis can have.  I'm partial to a high dose first experience, (like my 3.6g cubensis).  It depends on the person, maybe for adventurous types panaeolus, subtropicalis, or cubensis could be a memorable first (I think that may be the only situation where I think cubensis would be the preferred choice to eat).  I do appreciate, and generally recommend people easing in to getting comfortable with mushrooms and increasing the dosage as they feel called, and that ovoids would probably be my default first recommendation for most people, especially those who are hesitant, intimidated, reserved, unsure, or afraid.

That being said, I need to get to know the differences in effects between the woodlovers, more, as they can all be similar to ovoids, now that I think of it.

Generic said:

Well done kloakk

Last year I spawned some 10-month-old Azurescens wood chip spawn that had been inoculated with grain to sterilized chips in July of the previoius year (I lost track/forgot about them).  They were spawned to wood chips outdoors in May.  This was that bag in May.
 

They fruited a little bit their first year of being spawned (fall 2025), mostly side pins in a pot.

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Thanks Generic

Excited to see how this run will go and if I get a couple of fruits this first years I'll be very happy indeed