el boso said:

I have 4 AIO quart jars of Bispo Washington. I shook them 3 days ago and they're now at half colonisation. Once they hit 100% could I top fruit them? Or is it preferred to break shake and place in a shoebox?

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fahtster said:

This is literally 24 hours after g2g inoculation


And it’s not even as aggressive as most ttbvi cultures I’ve found from ms.  I suspect you have bacteria in that jar or a played out culture which can happen with pan vendor lc.  Pan cultures don’t have a very long shelf life as far as expanding them goes and who knows how old that lc is.

I don’t want to bum you out but I don’t want to give false hope either.  Pans only do really well with healthy cultures.  Even the slightest bacterial culture will fruit very poorly or not at all.  It’s not looking good unfortunately

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Gilmour Hendrix said:

I knocked up two jars with a bvi plate I have had in storage since October. These were done Sunday evening. I'm comparing to faht's speedy quick jars he shared. These are very slow in comparison.

I have questions.

Should I go back to spore?

Do I need better genetics?

Did I let the plate sit too long?



The condensation in the jar is likely because of the sun coming through the window to warm the jars during the day, then cooling at night.

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tree frog said:

Yeah I have noticed that a few people have good luck with no prep Millet and cyans. When I was using stipes prep millet they hated the shit.  And I had been running gourmets on it for a while.

Also popcorn isn't like other grains, bursting isn't an issue. Because they don't clump.

But yeah the jar does look too wet.  They should look more like this.  That said, that's to prevent bacteria from overrunning the jar. His wet grains aren't why the wedge isn't recovering




Edit:  And the bigger your jars the more dry your grains need to be when they go in them.  Stamets lists the moisture content and 1/2 gallon grain jars is substantially lower than quartz. Just for reference, so like I'm using little jars and if I was using quarts they would be much drier than that even

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fahtster said:

or just hit up the matketplace and get some free ones

The red flag is that it’s not growing.  You can be spawning at 8 days with a healthy culture
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Revived my MiB clone from dried grains again.  This time they were 9 months on the DG’s.  I wanted more fresh spores and they did not disappoint

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