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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 2
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ps: congrats, you are successfully growing a healthy tray of panaeolus!! quite an achievement! enjoy


Thank you verry much - yes this litle mushromms are Full of Love and felt stronger then Acid


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blueprint]
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blueprint said:
tree frog said:
Another thought, is that just verm?  I found verm really hard to manage the moisture content with pans. 



Thanks - it is 50/50 Peat and Vermiculite (vemuculite 2-4mm) i should use 0-2mm

dou you use only peatmoss?


Peat, calcium carbonate, gypsum, and worm castings.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29419731#29419731

A lot of folks do use verm though, or jiffy mix which has some verm in it.  Much less than 50% though (probably under 25%) and yeah, finer particles.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Thanks to everyone.

Since Pan's are new to me, I have a lot of questions...

If some are already large and ready to harvest but smaller ones are still growing—as with cunbensis—should I harvest all of them, water them, leave the small ones and water them, or just harvest the large ones and water them?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blueprint]
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I usually leave pins (so the very small ones).  Because they will mature on the second flush.

If a couple grow very fast, I generally cut the caps off and print them.

Otherwise I go through and just harvest everything aside from pins.  But a lot of that has to do with work-life balance and how big your stash is.

You can certainly pull a few at a time if you want.  But I don't like running my dehydrator for just a couple of fruits.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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blueprint said:
Thanks to everyone.

Since Pan's are new to me, I have a lot of questions...

If some are already large and ready to harvest but smaller ones are still growing—as with cunbensis—should I harvest all of them, water them, leave the small ones and water them, or just harvest the large ones and water them?



tree frog said:
You can certainly pull a few at a time if you want.  But I don't like running my dehydrator for just a couple of fruits.


I used to harvest mine as they matured.  I made a drying rack out of porch screen and 2x2s and laid a box fan down where it was blowing right on it.  Had it a little off the floor so air could flow through.  I would just throw them on the screen 18x18 inches or so.  Would hold a ton of shrooms and this got them pretty darned dry...To the point that the freeze drier only reduced the weight by an additional 10%.  I would leave them like that for up to 2 weeks before freeze drying and didn't seem to affect anything. Assuming the freeze drier removed 100% of the h20, that means the fan dried stuff only had about 1% of the initial water left in it....Say starting with 100grams...90 grams water, 10g mushroom.  Air dried had to be 1g water and 10g mushroom since the freeze drier only dropped weight by 10% or so....  Thats my thinking anyway.  Granted this was cubes, but pans should not be that different when drying.  They should dry even faster because they are smaller.


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I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have taken 20 grams of fresh subtropicalis :smile:

Edited by Hardhead (12/10/25 06:44 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 4
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Just thought I'd post up some agar pics.  Notice how the p cambo clone mycelium is different from the spore.  Also that fast growth on the wild ochra on the right side.  All of these have gone to jars and additional transfer as well.

That p cambo came from a 7 inch tall chonker that had a huge cap.  Samples from same grow tested around 2% active and 1.6 grams dried of these took me to the moon (awesome trip). Looking forward to seeing how the clones do....my ttbvi clones have not retained parental characteristics very well and ochras just don't see to care....they just grow like weeds whether they are clones, pure isolated monocultures, multispore whatever.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead]
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I'm looking forward to seeing you fruit that Oregon of course.  A friend of mine just showed me one he grew that was like 10g.  He's a beast though, regularly grows 10 gram pans.

What agar recipe are you using?  Just curious so I have more understanding of expression on different media.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Got couple monotubs of ttbvi goin. Im leaving to vacation on december 23 so im just hoping to get 1 flush on time rofl. Ive set the temperature of the room to 75f. Would increasing the temperature make them fruit a bit faster?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
I'm looking forward to seeing you fruit that Oregon of course.  A friend of mine just showed me one he grew that was like 10g.  He's a beast though, regularly grows 10 gram pans.

What agar recipe are you using?  Just curious so I have more understanding of expression on different media.


0.5% lme.  agar is 1.5% this time.  Experimented with different amounts of agar.  Think I like somewhere between 1-1.5% agar.  Nutrients, I've been 0.5% light malt extract for everything.  Works great for pans and OK for everything else so far.  Maybe not the best for lions mane, but it does grow on it.  I just each plate in its own ziplock sandwich bag  and chunk them in a cardboard box to grow.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 10
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Achievement unlocked: the panopy
Achievement unlocked: the bottom shelf



Thankful for this thread and everyone spreading knowledge in it. Special thanks to tree frog for the pan cultivation index thread and the posters of said threads for their guides.

Pans have been extremely valuable to me in making lifestyle changes and living a happier, healthier life.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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Looks like failure to me.

TTBVI spawned with coir and worm castings.

I'm pretty sure that's mold on top. One of the trays looked hopeful but it has a spot too.

Oh well. More reason to stick to the tried and true than to go off like a moron on paths that are iffy.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Yeah that's pin mold. You might still be able to get the colony to fruit. I would suggest giving it more air exchange, because pin mold thrives when co2 is high.

And you can also spray it with hydrogen peroxide, spray it down good now and again tonight.

No guarantees of course, that is pretty advanced.

For a future reference I still properly pasteurize worm castings.  And coir, because I would mix them together.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (12/12/25 01:47 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 6
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Third flush.  Culture #5 was so fast it's not pictured, harvested it two days ago but the mushrooms were smaller :shrug:



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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Thank you


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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philmyco said:
Achievement unlocked: the panopy
Achievement unlocked: the bottom shelf



Thankful for this thread and everyone spreading knowledge in it. Special thanks to tree frog for the pan cultivation index thread and the posters of said threads for their guides.

Pans have been extremely valuable to me in making lifestyle changes and living a happier, healthier life.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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If i cased my tub a month ago and there is still no pins, does that mean the tub is toast? I dont see any contamination growing but I dont see anything else growing either. Its just completely stalled and its in a martha tent with almost 90-99% humidity most of the day and have a fan that clears out the air every 4 hours or so. Temp is in the mid 70's give or take. Im almost tempted to put the cake in a grow bag and see if that does anything to it.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ihansterx4i]
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Is the substrate visibly contaminated?

And you all know me, I would throw grass seed on top of it.  Mother nature knows best, and copelandia are often found growing with plants :shrug:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
For a future reference I still properly pasteurize worm castings. 


Does this stink up the house like manure pasteurization does?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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no i cant see any contamination at all. It just looks like it froze in time and hasn't grown at all.

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