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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: andymc]
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@ cronic Well I figured I was trying without turds, a little Nitrogen boost could help until I can dial things in. Just didn't want to waste the turds. Never seen the shrooms grow from the turds, so the minerals make their way into the soil passively.

Figured there was some rabbit turd tea or something I could do to maximize their usage.

Edited by tultedspoon (12/08/25 08:36 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon]
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@ andymc I did some heavy reading and saw in a thread another Panaeouls aficinado discuss rabbit turds penetrating the soil and helping with some Panaeolus species.

Edited by tultedspoon (12/08/25 08:37 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
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Anomalocaris said:


First attempt at pans. 30L monotub ez-dial with 4 extra holes from the original design to grow pans.

Not sure if its gonna work a few grains in my spawn looked wet and uncolonized :frown: but I thought what the hell, got nothin to lose.

Gonna prepare better spawn


hey there, best of luck with these tho!  how many quarts of substrate did you end up using per tub? 

cronicr said:

Out of options , horse shit it is


what were the other options?....im back to using my bin compost without any added manure, but I use cheap bagged stuff.  yours looks healthy.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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I was gonna get bagged but out of stock


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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stagger said:
Anomalocaris said:


First attempt at pans. 30L monotub ez-dial with 4 extra holes from the original design to grow pans.

Not sure if its gonna work a few grains in my spawn looked wet and uncolonized :frown: but I thought what the hell, got nothin to lose.

Gonna prepare better spawn


hey there, best of luck with these tho!  how many quarts of substrate did you end up using per tub? 









I used 2 quarts spawn, 3 quarts coco coir and 1 quart composted sheep manure.



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Edited by Anomalocaris (12/09/25 02:19 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 8
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I have not grown much in the past 2+ years and my efforts so far (since June) have been few and far between and very half assed. I’ve just been winging it, hoping I can make do with what’s on hand and not really following any teks, nor dialing in the culture parameters very carefully.

Well even though I really do not like the expression FAFO (fuck around find out) it seems to apply to me right now. I’ve had very limited success with my carefree Devil May Care approach. What success I’ve had is a testament to the amazingly flexible and resilient organisms theses fungi folk are.

I better get focussed and back to basics, because otherwise the mods will notice and take my TC tag away! 😳🤣

Well here are a few stragglers emerging from a Pan Cyan “Snake Bunny” grow (first time with this one from MS).



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 9
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An internal fan that runs when the heater runs fixed my winter tent abort issues.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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Am I correct in understanding Jambo's require can cope with slightly lower temps?

I was going to only do pans during the hot months, but feel the urge. If my idea about Jambo's is just a random brainfart I'll go with bispo.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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i have had success in the mid to high 60s(f) with pan cyan and i think i fruited pan cambo var. sandos, correct me if that is not a cambo, in the same tent in the same season. ill be fruiting again this season in similar temps, currently have pan cyan on ~.5% LME agar, pan bisporus in same doing my first cabin sequester, and pan cambo on the same low nutrient agar. will be going to RGS then coir/hpoo sub with peat/verm (pH adjusted up) casing. 
:dancingshroom:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Ratatoskr] * 2
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Yeah, my cyans are running at 68-72f and some are doing fine. 

I think Sanzdoz had better morphology around 75f.  But it's definitely culture dependent.  I have other cyans aborting right next to these ones. :shrug:





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Ah yeah, that's pretty much out of my league in my unheated house. Thanks for the answers!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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That ttbvi charcoal plate is pretty cool


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
Ah yeah, that's pretty much out of my league in my unheated house. Thanks for the answers!


I've been using seed mats and other strategies just to keep fruiting over the winter.

But it's been a struggle, I got frustrated last week and ordered a warm/cool mist fogger for cannabis.  And I am still planning to use the heating pads.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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Churpee Choozle said:
Ah yeah, that's pretty much out of my league in my unheated house. Thanks for the answers!


I live in Alaska (currently 5 below zero at my house). Certainly my house is heated, but it’s not exactly tropical in here. One proven solution to your situation is to take a larger tub and fill the bottom 2-3 inches with water, then lay a thermostatically controlled aquarium heater in the bottom. Set it for about 8O-85 F.  Then place some type of rack an inch or two above the water. For example, two bowls (with water in them) with an oven rack or cookie cooling rack on top between them. Your Pan sub containers can sit on this rack. Then put the tote lid on. A thermometer on the rack can inform you about if you need to adjust your aquarium heater up or down. This should deal with your temperature issues. However, you’ll need to fan several times a day to get the evaporation needed for your pans to pin. This set up can have an automated fan / air exchange system built into it also, but this is just focused on your temperature issues.

If you’re new to pans I would recommend this small scale approach over the bigger Martha type set ups you may have seen.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] * 1
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A jcm is what I used my first winter.  Now one of my dreamers is sitting in a 28 qt sweaterbox, with the aquarium heater under it.

It's doing alright, but fogging with cool mist wasn't helping.  And the aquarium pump on the JCM was way too loud to feel like setting it back up.  About the only reason I didn't go back to it tbh.


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I'd make a deal with God
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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] * 5
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I have an aquarium heater for in the JCM, but I'm really anal about my carbon footprint, so yeah, next Summer. But thanks for the advice (you too Tree).

Also, I'm pretty new to tropical pan species and didn't exactly produce stellar indoor grows this year, so to waste so much energy on a probably skimpy harvest... When they throw okish flushes outdoors without any effort...




Till then, I'll just marvel at what you guys and gals do.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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Hello everyone,
I need your expertise again.
Basically, everything is working and I am happy with my PanCyacens Hawaii.

However, there is something I don't understand: I enlarged the glass container, but only a few are growing in the middle. Why is that? How can I make them grow evenly everywhere? Or is there no way to influence this?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blueprint] * 1
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blueprint said:
Hello everyone,
I need your expertise again.
Basically, everything is working and I am happy with my PanCyacens Hawaii.

However, there is something I don't understand: I enlarged the glass container, but only a few are growing in the middle. Why is that? How can I make them grow evenly everywhere? Or is there no way to influence this?




mushrooms grow where conditions are best.
looking at your tray i see that the mycelium has grown through the casing especially in the center. this could indicate that the casing layer is thicker on the outer parts and the mycelium didnt like that just as much.

it can also be related to the density, often we pack more tightly on the edges. could be that you misted more in the center …
so many possibilities.

even ,level layers, evenly thick casing, same amount of misting…. can all contribute to a more even pinset.

ps: congrats, you are successfully growing a healthy tray of panaeolus!! quite an achievement! enjoy


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Edited by chris77 (12/10/25 07:51 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 2
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Another thought, is that just verm?  I found verm really hard to manage the moisture content with pans.  And got a similar couple mushrooms the times I tried it.

I'm sure it's possible to get better results and that a lot of it was a skill issue on my part.  But I was happier with peat and didn't find the shortcut helpful.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
Another thought, is that just verm?  I found verm really hard to manage the moisture content with pans. 



Thanks - it is 50/50 Peat and Vermiculite (vemuculite 2-4mm) i should use 0-2mm

dou you use only peatmoss?


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