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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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This could be a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I think there's growth on the bottom edge of the 2nd plate. Looks like it's just starting to move inward. It's white, irregular, and kinda looks like 2-D barnacles.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala] * 11
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Cased* popcorn did better than I expected.  Shorties but not bad for an inch of grain and no substrate.



*There's some nitrogen in my casing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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2nd time transferring the bisporus to grain and then yeast appears.

Definitely need to clean-up the culture further.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DERRAYLD] * 15
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MiB



I'm printing all the big caps right now.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq] * 18
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 2
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G'DAMN FAHT!
:homerdrool:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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canopy messiah


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 6
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Fahts actually designed ai to manipulate the pictures, he's actually really good at ai not actual mushroom cultivation....

I tell myself this to feel better at night

:wtf3:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Cased* popcorn did better than I expected.  Shorties but not bad for an inch of grain and no substrate.



*There's some nitrogen in my casing.


Nice treefrog, i want to try that. You think it would be helpful to add some organic fertilizer to the corn in advance? I have 3+1+4 npk here and think about adding some. Or better to put some in the casing?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroboo]
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Worm castings is what I am using for nitrogen in the casing.  It also has a lot of minerals and microbes in it.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that they would fruit fine off of just popcorn. I looked at the protein content and did some math.

It works out to be enough nitrogen by itself.

I haven't tested it yet but my guess is they would have fruited well without the worm castings too.

So I don't know that I would suggest adding fertilizer.  I don't know how contamination resistant what product you're using is.  I haven't seen contamination in my casing  so I know that worm castings at the ratio I use works.


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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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I jizzed my pants.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Worm castings is what I am using for nitrogen in the casing.  It also has a lot of minerals and microbes in it.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that they would fruit fine off of just popcorn. I looked at the protein content and did some math.

It works out to be enough nitrogen by itself.

I haven't tested it yet but my guess is they would have fruited well without the worm castings too.

So I don't know that I would suggest adding fertilizer.  I don't know how contamination resistant what product you're using is.  I haven't seen contamination in my casing  so I know that worm castings at the ratio I use works.


You mean without a casing at all, just fruiting off of popcorn, or you mean without adding worm castings to your casing? I'm a noob in pans, no fruits yet, quiet sure i have to work on my fruiting conditions. But the closest i got to fruits and best feeling i had with was with corn. It even looked a little bit like knots right on the colonized spawn. Ok, so I'll skip the fertilizer for now :smile:.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroboo]
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Yeah, corn and casing.

I imagine covering corn with coir could even work for some species, though not as well as pH adjusted peat.

For reference the C:N ratio for Copelandia is 25-35:1 (according to one study I read).  Corn is around 32:1 already.  And nitrogen from maize was one of the preferred nitrogen sources in the study.

Unfortunately the original is in Chinese.  And it looks like only part of the study was translated into English.

But it's here for anyone curious.

https://europepmc.org/article/CBA/602890


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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You can feed chinese papers into notebooklm, but beside the english abstract i cant find the original chinese study, did you?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroboo]
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No.  That's the only copy I've been able to find.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Have you been able to start working on any of those cinctulus strains?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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I have one in fruiting now, should be pinning or turning green soon :shrug:

I would like to run out another culture though, as mine didn't make any stones in the grain jar.

Do you have one of the three you sent me you would recommend?

Edit:  NM, I just checked the other thread.  I'll try running out the polaris as I think I have it.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I don't think you have it. I was going to include it in the two others I left out; but yeah I definitely recommend running Polaris. Goliath would be a second runner up though for the fruitage, I've never seen so many fruits and such big ones. Idk if you have mushroom observer on hand but you can also look up the individual ones and judge for yourself what might be good where. For instance, Topgun has a very thick stipe, might be good to select for if it is in the genotype.

Let me know if you dont have either of those first two, Polaris & Goliath. I just talked with our friend Pheno about the Viper strain, which I might have given away every last bit I had of. Although, that may be the same strain as Polaris. It's hard to say, because they were found four miles apart from eachother in opposite seasons, but until someone can pay to genetically test and differentiate the strains, it is probably a good idea to keep them separate.
If Viper looks the same as Polaris does on agar, it furthers the likelihood of Viper and Polaris being the same strain.
I still may have a stray swab or two lying around, I think I actually may have sent you a print from one of the only open-capped Pancins in the bunch.
Which strain do you have in fruiting? Good for you for running one.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Also, there has been a cinctulus going around that, hard-wroght it may be from an exotic location, I believe to be mislabeled. No genetic sequencing on it has been done as of yet, so this fills a large basis of my belief.
There are several Panaeolus type species that've been found recently and undergone genetic study. These have been found in benign places. All the strains of cinctulus I sent came from San Diego, if any dont throw stones lmk.


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Edited by CrimsonRambeler (11/13/25 05:33 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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Viper and Goliath sound familiar but my swabs weren't with my prints when I looked.  The one I'm running is a print.  It did make stones on the plate, but I think I selected wispier growth thinking they'd fruit better.

I'll germinate it or one of the others next time I start new projects and go for stones.


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