Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 |  [ show all ]
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #29273936 -

I'm trying to do this with things I have from another adventure. I have fertilizer that has micro nutrients included with a npk 2 part mix. It's basically a knock off Jack's 321. Would this be an all in 1 mix I can use in place of the micro and npk you suggested?


--------------------
Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Bigworm] * 2
    #29275134 -

I think those can work in theory.  With two considerations.

It's water-soluble.  So, you'd need to sterilize rather than bucket tek.

It's also 10-12 times stronger than what mojave is using on the N and K. And 6 on the P.

And I'm not sure if mojave is using his at full strength, my guess is not.  As compost is like 0.5 nitrogen.  And the True Organic starts at 2.

But, I bet it can work if you sterilize and figure out the right ratios.


--------------------
And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: tree frog]
    #29276168 -

I was thinking I can use the part 1 and skip the second part. I think the ratio is closer that way.


--------------------
Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Bigworm]
    #29276686 -

Commenting to add this to my recipe book


--------------------
A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Bigworm]
    #29276782 -

Bigworm said:
I'm trying to do this with things I have from another adventure. I have fertilizer that has micro nutrients included with a npk 2 part mix. It's basically a knock off Jack's 321. Would this be an all in 1 mix I can use in place of the micro and npk you suggested?



Yeah I think you could def use it! Would def require some math to get the ratios right, but I’m super curious about dry amendments. TF’s callout re: soluble N is on point, I’m not sure how it’ll go without heat treatment. My last round of grows on TO tomato fert (mostly soluble N) was successful, but I did have more contamination than I’ve seen in a while.

@smelly, blessings for the relocation 🫡


--------------------
CV+

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: MojaveMyc] * 1
    #29276819 -

:takingnotes:


--------------------

∴Genetics Info∴Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Native Americans∴

∴The Official Woodlovers Thread∴Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation∴

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: catnip40] * 2
    #29277034 -

:whathesaid::takingnotes:
Gotta catch up on this. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing, amigo.


--------------------
Stoned Gummys | BRF Pucks | Primo Reusable Plates | Easy LI 4 Preserv & Propo
"Psychedelics are powerful substances. Nothing that powerful is completely safe... and nothing completely safe is that powerful!" - Abigail Calder at ALPS 2023
Don't Panic

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
    #29277133 -

Thanks for checking it out, friends! I’ll be firing up the forge again here soon. Took a lil time off in anticipation of moving. But soon I’ll be back to having a dedicated grow space. I have a few more ideas clanking around in my head. I’d love to hear your feedback when/if y’all get around to it.


--------------------
CV+

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: MojaveMyc]
    #29277168 -

MojaveMyc said:
Bigworm said:
I'm trying to do this with things I have from another adventure. I have fertilizer that has micro nutrients included with a npk 2 part mix. It's basically a knock off Jack's 321. Would this be an all in 1 mix I can use in place of the micro and npk you suggested?



Yeah I think you could def use it! Would def require some math to get the ratios right, but I’m super curious about dry amendments. TF’s callout re: soluble N is on point, I’m not sure how it’ll go without heat treatment. My last round of grows on TO tomato fert (mostly soluble N) was successful, but I did have more contamination than I’ve seen in a while.



Pasteurize or sterilize? I can do either. I can also add Muriate of Potash 0-0-60 to increase the P. Obviously just a tiny fraction of that.


--------------------
Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Bigworm] * 2
    #29277201 -

My interpretation of the data so far is: sterilized for water soluble nutes and pasteurized for insoluble.


--------------------
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Shroomery - BeefSupremeJr
A Love Letter to New Growers - Smellyhobbit

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: nocap]
    #29283320 -

Big ups on the thread, Mojave! I've been trying to take it in.
There is fert here, Doff growmore. Not organic, but available and cheap.
It claims included micronutrients which could eliminate a step/purchase and it is in 7 7 7. Its composition looks like:

SO, if I were to mix up my batch of coir, with these nutes (in a reduced by 5 5 5 amount lol, I'm no maths guy but it can be done) to match Mojaves 2 2 2 ratio and I suppose at first just see how I get on with the micronute amount as included. Mix coir, let hydrate with the nutes, put into a jar and PC it then I can use that as my substrate for panaelous?
I'm hopeful.
:nyan:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Lithop]
    #29283330 -

Haven’t tried this myself yet - just got my first pans to grains this morning :headbanger:

With 7-7-7, you would only need between 1/4 and 1/3 the amount of 2-2-2 that Mojave was using .


--------------------
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Shroomery - BeefSupremeJr
A Love Letter to New Growers - Smellyhobbit

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: nocap]
    #29283337 -

That's sick! Which pans, which grains?
:tellmeastory:
I have some on brf, TX Titan.
Yep, that's the maths I was wondering about, I planned on working out 1 1 1 and multiplying that by around 2
:rollsafe:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #29283361 -

Approx 29% = 2/7

Peace River to brown rice

Might be sacrilegious to this thread but was going to try plain CV like cubes and hoping that the nitrogen in the rice will carry it along well enough.

Working up some popcorn in parallel with that same thought, but haven’t noc’d it yet. Hydration and sterilization is a bugger on that one.

But, liquid ferts are my next stop if the other two adventures go tits up.


--------------------
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Shroomery - BeefSupremeJr
A Love Letter to New Growers - Smellyhobbit

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: nocap] * 1
    #29283388 -

Thanks for the percentage.
:teacher:
And hey may as well give it a go- nothing like learning first hand, one way or the other. As for the popcorn, I haven't tried it myself, I can imagine some fine line between nicely plump and 1shotted. But again, it's good to mess about learning to dial other stuff in so I'm sure you'll get there along the way of having fun. I'm quite liking milo right now, very easy going I just use a hamloaf tek from ages ago.

Well good luck getting started on your pan adventures! My pet jar and plates of pan tx have been RIPPIN through the brf so I'm gonna pick up some of this doff over the next few days for about 3 quid and if the substrate ain't gonna fly with it I'll use it out the garden. No great loss.
I'll keep you updated.
:leocheers:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #29283403 -

I’ve been on millet for cubes, but I heard that pans are meh about it.

Will share up temps and times for the other grains when I have them dialed in a bit better.  Birdseed teks are a dime a dozen though, so it seemed like a good place to start when I first got into cult.  Hasn’t steered me wrong yet. :mushroom2:


--------------------
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Shroomery - BeefSupremeJr
A Love Letter to New Growers - Smellyhobbit

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: nocap]
    #29283951 -

This isn't soley on your shoulders, nocap- it just happens my reply is under yours :wink:

Ok, I'll spare you my working out but here's my idea.

The goal is to use a half brick of coir (in this case 323.5 grams, which would take 1.5 litres of water @ 4.5X) for a nutrient that calls for 15ml for every 4.5L of water (15 grams per 4500 grams) and its balance of 7 7 7, to be reduced to 2 2 2 (I worked out 29% of the manufacturer reccomended amount of nute) I would want 1.8mls of nutrient.
Does that seem to check out?

:einstein:

Now to work out how much straw...
:sammy:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #29283960 -

if 15mL per 4.5L
then 5mL per 1.5L

29% of 5mL is 1.43mL

:rockon:


--------------------
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Shroomery - BeefSupremeJr
A Love Letter to New Growers - Smellyhobbit

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: nocap] * 1
    #29283964 -

:coolpost:
Cool post, thank you. on god/ no cap

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: CV+ (Coir, Verm + Liquid Plant Fertilizers) [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #29284016 -

Just to clarify, true organic is 2-2-2, when using ~90 ml per gallon of water (3 oz per gallon).

10ml is closer to 0.22 N.  20 ml closer to 0.44.

Compsted manure runs 0.5.

2% nitrogen is a lot.  And if you're using soluble nitrogen, you'll likely front load your first flush, need to properly pasteurize or sterilize your substrate.  And in the case of sterilization, you'll need to follow sterilize technique all throughout the grow up until the substrate is colonized.  Then you can open air spawn and immediately case.

In other words, insoluble nitrogen is the way to go if you want to skip pasteurization.  And, y'all are way overshooting your ratios.


--------------------
And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 |  [ show all ]

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* coco coir +verm or just verm coming_up_roses 3,146 8 03/24/03 04:13 PM
by Alien
* poo,coir/verm or a 1/3 of each Anonymous 2,164 7 11/06/03 03:15 AM
by Anonymous
* verm or coir/verm? herby 1,317 7 10/03/04 10:42 PM
by SubGen1us
* coir/verm tek Che_Night_Soil 3,606 6 03/15/03 09:34 AM
by shirley knott
* coir/verm proportions newbie420 1,465 3 06/16/04 12:03 AM
by alpiner
* add lime to 70/30 coir verm? newbie420 1,461 7 07/07/04 01:43 PM
by Magash
* coco coir/verm shelf life seethe303 1,332 5 09/15/04 05:24 PM
by seethe303
* question about sterilising coir/verm Chibboleth 858 4 04/14/04 10:44 AM
by Hanky

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: DERRAYLD, Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
8,575 topic views. 10 members, 2,091 guests and 252 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.012 seconds on 16 queries.