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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: ReverendMyc] * 3
    #29163704 -

I'm not growing in monos but yeah I've also been really impressed by the lay mixing and am looking at trying it.

I'm also trying some uncased experiments with a top layer, what I did in my tray was mix the grains and my manure together and that was my bottom layer.  And then I pseudo cased like stipe does his penis envy.

The idea being to keep the nitrogen close to the grain so that if the mycelium is dependent on nitrogen to process the carbon efficiently it won't have to transport it as far, and likewise with the water all being close to the surface since coir has higher moisture holding capacity than my cow poop.

Anyway, it's an early experiment and when I start getting some results I will probably post in the pan thread and maybe even in stipes pseudo casing thread.

Edit: Always love seeing your experiments Rev :popcorn:


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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Thanks for the info and the vote of confidence! I actually have some of those ttbvi spores on the way in a print from a giveaway in the MP. I’m gonna inoculate a couple of plates with those when they get here. I’m hoping people here won’t mind me leaning on them for advice through my grows with these other than cube types!

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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ReverendMyc said:
Naw. I am trying a lot of different things to see what is what. Some pans just want to grow. Others take some effort. (tt)BVI, Burringbar, and Bunnell seem to be super aggressive and relatively easy. Some of the others have been trickier for me. (clearly having "b"s in the name is important :wink:)

I just started playing around with lay mixing (a la fahtster and Mojave) which is why there are extra steps in that grow. Probably not necessary, but you gotta love the canopies that the laymix bunch are getting in other exotics. I'm also trying to squeeze the max out of tiny amounts of spawn. So thought I would give that a spin.

If you have clean spawn and figure out what they want in your environment they just grow. I just make things look complicated because I can't leave well enough alone. I have to keep trying new things to see if they make any difference. Keeping lots of records helps, but also makes it look more complicated than it really is.

Pick a variety, follow teks, and then play around a bit. Rinse. Repeat. You got this.



Lmk how that goes for ya.  The last ones tried, they got overlay on the top.  I flipped them over and cased the bottom mixed portion and I’m getting pins now so I’m going back to regular mixing but it could also have been the adjustment I made in the jcm as well.. added a bigger gap at the lid.  I since went back to the smaller gap so I’d like to know how your laymix trays work out

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: fahtster] * 9
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I'd say it is going pretty well, thank you sir.

Uncompressed and compressed top layers after 4 days on their own, so no misting. I gave them a heavy mist right after this picture when I got home. I am hoping the caps open a bit more with the late misting before they hit the roof of the 19 liter boxes, but they are getting pretty close. They bruised slightly from the misting, but didn't abort yet after 12 hours.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
I'd say it is going pretty well, thank you sir.






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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: AZ Starman2112]
    #29172797 -

I'm going to give this a go once my spores are cleaned up. Quick question, how about adding extra nutes (manure or synthetic fertilizer) in the grain colonization stage so I can just use 100% coir at bulk to reduce contams?
Even if it's so much nutrient that it slows the colonization growth, it would be worth it in the end to reduce chance of things going green.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: CranberrySteve]
    #29172900 -

I did an experimental grow like that with liquid ferts and popcorn.  Equivalent to 0.3 nitrogen in my boil water worked the best of the three ratios I tried.  If you have any questions on it that aren't covered in the grow log or second post, feel free to shoot me a DM.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28976769

Another option is AIO bags or jars.  And there are folks who add liquid nutrients into their coir when they prep it.  I tried this once and it went green.  But it could have been my spawn :shrug:

If you search MojaveMyc and liquid I imagine you'll find what you need in the latter regard as far as product he uses and at what ratios.

But yes!  Putting your nitrogen in your grains definitely worked on my end.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: tree frog]
    #29172941 -

tree frog said:
I did an experimental grow like that with liquid ferts and popcorn.  Equivalent to 0.3 nitrogen in my boil water worked the best of the three ratios I tried.  If you have any questions on it that aren't covered in the grow log or second post, feel free to shoot me a DM.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28976769

Another option is AIO bags or jars.  And there are folks who add liquid nutrients into their coir when they prep it.  I tried this once and it went green.  But it could have been my spawn :shrug:

If you search MojaveMyc and liquid I imagine you'll find what you need in the latter regard as far as product he uses and at what ratios.

But yes!  Putting your nitrogen in your grains definitely worked on my end.



Thank you muchly! I will surely try this out. Does it have to be straight nitrogen? I've got a couple ferts on hand. Could I get away with a 10:2:24 or 12:2:10?


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: CranberrySteve]
    #29172945 -

I went with 3-1-2, because that's what they recommend for grass.  Since the species I like to work with grow in fertized grass, I figured that would be a good place to start.

I would use the 12-2-10 of those two. That way you don't accidentally overshoot anything.

Not sure what Mojave is using, but I'm sure it's not just nitrogen.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
I went with 3-1-2, because that's what they recommend for grass.  Since the species I like to work with grow in fertized grass, I figured that would be a good place to start.

I would use the 12-2-10 of those two. That way you don't accidentally overshoot anything.

Not sure what Mojave is using, but I'm sure it's not just nitrogen.



Sounds like a plan. I'll let you know how I get on.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: CranberrySteve]
    #29173004 -

Look forward to it!

And just to clarify, I diluted the 3-1-2.  The 10% ratio worked best which was 0.3 nitrogen.

Your mileage of course might vary, and I'm sure different species have slightly different preferences.  But the 12 is going to need to be diluted quite a bit I imagine.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: tree frog] * 11
    #29179609 -

Spent the summer trying different teks and not being able to find aged manure with mixed results, finally went back to my original method with manure left to age over summer and finally get a normal grow, right as the temps start to drop :/ gonna keep at it anyway, small fruits are better than no fruits :shrug:

Burringbar in a 20L ez dial


Edited by 3.A.M (04/05/25 06:50 PM)

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M] * 7
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Pan cyan Sharps Crossing, same method as above


Cross post with potd

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M]
    #29181084 -

3.A.M said:
Spent the summer trying different teks and not being able to find aged manure with mixed results, finally went back to my original method with manure left to age over summer and finally get a normal grow, right as the temps start to drop :/ gonna keep at it anyway, small fruits are better than no fruits :shrug:

Burringbar in a 20L ez dial





3.AM I was just going to post that I got my first Pan Cyan syringe…TTBVI and was wondering how many quarts of substrate you used for that 20 L tub?


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Big Jon]
    #29181833 -

Not sure of quarts but my spawn would be a bit less than a quart and it’d be on average 1:2-1:3 with an average depth of 1.5-2 inches, I just eyeball all my measurements :shrug: go with what feels right and experiment once you get the process down (:

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M]
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3.A.M said:
Not sure of quarts but my spawn would be a bit less than a quart and it’d be on average 1:2-1:3 with an average depth of 1.5-2 inches, I just eyeball all my measurements :shrug: go with what feels right and experiment once you get the process down (:




Yeah, I’m just going to throw the substrate in the bin pre-sterilization and see what it looks like, just wanted to see if you had an exact amount bc that’s how I want my tubs to look.

I’ve never been so nervous/unsure of growing a strain than with pans, but I’m just going for it and seeing what works bc I want a very potent strain.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Big Jon]
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Make sure to wash your bin out after with soap and warm water.


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: Mr Piggy] * 7
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Another Sharps crossing wild clone grow, cross post potd


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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: 3.A.M]
    #29183131 -

This is very informative, I did not know sharps crossing was a pan. XD

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Re: πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ PANAEOLUS IN MONO TUBS 3.0 πŸ„πŸ„πŸ„ [Re: syllable] * 2
    #29183206 -

I’ve cloned both a pan and a cube from the same location, any wild genetics are simply named for the area they’re found.

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