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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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I’m grateful i stumbled upon this! I’m planning on doing some outdoor gourmet projects this year and oysterbuckets fits the bill nicely. It’s still pretty cold here( colder where you are i’m sure) . Can these guys handle  temps in the 30’s whilst colonizing? I expect freezing would break cell walls in the fruit, but in your experience can the mycelium handle short dips below 32*?


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Blopblop] * 1
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Glad you found this too:sunny:  So I have run a number of buckets with nighttime temps in the low 40s (daytime temps in the high 40s and low 50s) with blues, pearls, poplar oysters,  etc and they've loved it (and you get nice, strong colors with blues)- but dipping below that is getting into slow/stalled colonization.  Actually,  I imagine in the high 30s they MIGHT colonize and fruit, but I doubt it.  Hope that helps.  I'd wait a bit.  Maybe get everything squared away and expand your spawn in the meantime :hereyougo:
Can't wait to see what you get going.  Oh, and- definitely can't run pinks at any of the temperatures stated.  Just a heads up.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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Thanks Man! It will take me some time to get jars colonized and such. I’ll shoot for early April.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Blopblop]
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so would it be good for oyster buckets to be colonized indoors at 65-75, and then taken out to a friend's greenhouse for fruiting? (because it's just too dry indoors for fruiting).

or would it be better for them to colonize in the greenhouse, slowly?

deciding between fruiting indoors, in a basement, in a garage, or in a friend's greenhouse.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Generic]
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If the outdoor temps (the greenhouse temps) are between 40 and 75, I'd say just let em colonize and fruit there.  Basements are great if cooler than the main house (which they generally are).  I've fruited these indoors before in a big stack in the kitchen and aside from the wife looking at me like I was insane, it worked great during fruiting because I just misted them when I was walking by casually instead of making a trip outside. That said- if the temps are above 40, I'm always doing them outside.  Keeps the mess and moisture out of the house.  Those little 2.5 gal or 3 or whatever smaller buckets are better for indoors,  imho.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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Trying to reduce plastic waste, so I'm just getting started with buckets. I use 2-gallon size because they fit on the shelfs in my martha tent.
Oyster mushrooms are my favorite, and I was wondering if there are any of those that youve found that arent suitable?
There have been great results with florida, gray dove, poho, and branched oysters, and Im sure golden and pink will do fine, but Im thinking the larger varieties like King oysters might not like growing out the 1/2" holes I use. I would think those prefer to grow straight upwards.
Any thoughts?

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: ShroomDad]
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I’m interested in that also. Going shopping for buckets today.

Can you use 1/2 holes for reishi and turkey tail also?

Also curious if you cover the holes while the substrate is colonizing or do you leave the holes open the whole time?

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: san pedro guy]
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ShroomDad said:
Trying to reduce plastic waste, so I'm just getting started with buckets. I use 2-gallon size because they fit on the shelfs in my martha tent.
Oyster mushrooms are my favorite, and I was wondering if there are any of those that youve found that arent suitable?
There have been great results with florida, gray dove, poho, and branched oysters, and Im sure golden and pink will do fine, but Im thinking the larger varieties like King oysters might not like growing out the 1/2" holes I use. I would think those prefer to grow straight upwards.
Any thoughts?


So I just revived a king culture I had in storage to run a couple buckets of those again,  because I've gotten different results with them on different occasions.  One culture grew a little more like a regular oyster from the side of the bucket (but still thick-stemmed),  and normal from the top.  Another grew normal fruits, but I didn't take care of them. Lost all my photos of those so repeating this with new genetics I got from Roscoe some time back.  They definitely grow in this setup though. 
san pedro guy said:
I’m interested in that also. Going shopping for buckets today.

Can you use 1/2 holes for reishi and turkey tail also?

Also curious if you cover the holes while the substrate is colonizing or do you leave the holes open the whole time?


I'd recommend 1/4 to maybe 3/8 holes generally,  but half inch will work.  I get better clusters for some reason with 1/4" (probably because there's less local evaporation with smaller holes, and they like to stay wet.  I  cover the buckets with a 13gal trash liner while colonizing and lift to mist the holes.  I included it in the writeup but forgot to add a photo.  I need to remedy that...  I know turkey tail will work, but I haven't messed with it much.  Seen good bucket grow with it offsite though.  Reishi work GREAT with buckets.  More photos I lost, but rerunning those and other species (pioppino, chestnut,  reishi,  etc...) in buckets for new writeups soon.  With reishi,  you'll get gorgeous conks that way.  I had a culture that wouldn't do shit in bags or tubs that put ou 6" conks with buckets.  Same mixes and prep and whatnot.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 2
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Here we go :rocket:

2 oyster buckets spawned today.  Doug Fir sawdust for substrate, 3 quarts spawn per.  Will post an update in a couple weeks


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Edited by Psicomb (02/23/25 07:38 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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I had a fail at an oyster grow block so I spent an afternoon breaking it up with some animal bedding as substrate and putting into last years oyster grow bucket.  Worked like a charm but I’ve noticed the pins drying out even with regular misting.  It is in the basement in a dark cold room.  Can I move it into my kitchen which is warmer and put a bag over it and share my monotub humidifier with it somehow?  Put a garbage bag over it and pipe the humidity in under the bag?  Or just in the kitchen where I can spray it 3-4 times a day.  How much will the light bother them?

Also how do you fix failed pinning in some holes?  Got some that look like they pinned but then dried out. If I cut them off flush will I leave the hole clogged?  How do I properly clear out a hole when harvesting or otherwise?

Edited by Lestouffer (02/24/25 01:41 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Psicomb] * 2
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So almost certainly not enough misting.  It can be kind of a bitch getting enough mistings in - especially since some oysters (even from the same subsp/variety) just seem to be less drought tolerant.  I like keeping mine on the back porch so when I'm tasking I can just take a minute in between things and give them a good mist a handful of times a day.  Kitchen sounds like a plan.  Great use for that block btw :thumbup:
As for the terminated pinning sites- I just yoink that dey tissue out and mist them.  Often enough they'll pin next go around.  A little tissue plugging them up isn't a problem.  It's just like jerking a cluster off and there being tissue left.  They pin again from these sites.  Best of luck.  Please do share your results!

Psicomb said:
Here we go :rocket:

2 oyster buckets spawned today.  Doug Fir sawdust for substrate, 3 quarts spawn per.  Will post an update in a couple weeks


:discorex:  Hell yeah.  Can't wait to see what you get.  Ramping up my edible masters atm to start more oyster, chestnut, reishi and pioppino buckets to expand the thread.  Love that we're almost in March already :rockon:  My oysters love that fir sawdust.  It's the only pellet material I can find at the hardware store here,  and hardwood pellets are 30+ per bag:eek: 

Gonna be a birch heavy run this time due to clearing deadwood.  Since most of the spruce died off from the spruce beetles,  the birches are dropping like flies when our typical 50-100mph coastal windstorms roll through.  They just love birch.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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Thanks.  I took him outside in the shade on the porch and just finished harvesting them all.  Now here’s where I failed last time.  I never got a second flush.  Do I just leave him where he is (40-65 degrees with misting a number of times a day) or take him back to his hidey-hole in a dark room in our basement?  This one worked so well (probably because I could have probably inoculated 2 buckets with the block) I don’t want to lose momentum.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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alaskappalachian said:
Reishi work GREAT with buckets.  More photos I lost, but rerunning those and other species (pioppino, chestnut,  reishi,  etc...) in buckets for new writeups soon.  With reishi,  you'll get gorgeous conks that way.  I had a culture that wouldn't do shit in bags or tubs that put ou 6" conks with buckets.  Same mixes and prep and whatnot.


As I am just starting to mess around with Reishi in bags, and buckets are easy enough to find... this piques my interest! :biggrin: Looking forward to the update!


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Lestouffer] * 2
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@Les you can leave er be and it should be fine.  I like popping the can liner back on for a second flush and misting harvest sites like they were new.  I just realized after all this time I skipped that in the tek.  Will amend asap.  Really glad that worked out well for you.  Yeah two blocks should definitely spit out oysters for a while lol.  The only thing I don't like about using a bunch of spawn for a bucket is if it's grain, it probably boost your chances of contamination to some degree (more nitrogen = more nitrogen pirates):pirate:  Should be just fine though.

@GM Right on.  Yeah that'll be first up to bat when the spawn run is done.  Pretty miffed that I lost my reishi bucket photos,  so I'm in vendetta mode:childsoldier:


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Edited by alaskappalachian (03/02/25 11:15 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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Hey Man, oyster question: how fresh is too fresh for some wood chips? I picked up some oak chips and sawdust from a neighbor who took down a tree. It’s like 2 weeks old. Better to wait a bit? I do have other options ( alder from last summer).


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Edited by Blopblop (03/06/25 11:57 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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alaskappalachian said:
I'd recommend 1/4 to maybe 3/8 holes generally,  but half inch will work.  I get better clusters for some reason with 1/4" (probably because there's less local evaporation with smaller holes, and they like to stay wet.


I think you're right, with 1/2" holes the area seems to dry out between fruiting and new pins get too dry and die. While colonizing I always cover the holes with micropore tape and since I cant make the holes smaller, next time I'm going to make a 1/4" hole in the tape, and after harvesting I'll cover the holes with the tape again.

Edited by ShroomDad (03/07/25 10:57 AM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Blopblop] * 2
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Blopblop said:
Hey Man, oyster question: how fresh is too fresh for some wood chips? I picked up some oak chips and sawdust from a neighbor who took down a tree. It’s like 2 weeks old. Better to wait a bit? I do have other options ( alder from last summer).


They'll colonize fresh chips :thumbup:  Alder is wonderful though.  Pretty ideal tbh, but I've used fresh maple so oak should be fine too.

@shroomdad Save the tape (and some time) and just toss a 13gal trash bag over the bucket when colonizing.  After harvest,  just toss it back on.  Works quite nicely.  I pay like a dollar more a box for halfway decent bags and just reuse them a few times.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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What i like about the micropore tape is that it holds in moisture while allowing some gas exchange, its transparent so I can watch for mycelium growth, and its cheap.Just need a square inch to cover a hole, so what i have is going to last a long time.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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For my next round of bucket grows I am fermenting some woodchips for the first time.  I have had them soaking for 5 days, my understanding is the soaking reduces aerobic bacteria then an air drying cycle will reduce the anaerobic bacteria.  My air drying cycle will be have to be outdoors, in open air. Questions for anyone who uses this method to prep substrate woodchips:
- What is a recommended drying cycle time on the short side before getting them into inoculated buckets?  I was thinking 24-36 hrs but I'm second guessing myself on this...
- How long can I typically leave them out before risk of picking something up other contams becomes to great?  I'm estimating a week is probably to long.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: MetalPro]
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I'd be More worried about the desiccation, but properly fermentated should hold their own against invaders for a bit.

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