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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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Hello Buckets family !
Nice tek ! I will try it for sure

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Yum Xak]
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Hell yeah :radman:
Wishing you luck with it! Would love to see your results when you do.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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I'm confused with the 'can liner' part:

you mean a 30-gal volume plastic bag that's meant to line a trash can, I assume... Does that go just on top of the colonizing substrate inside the bucket?  Is that liner opened, or folded closed to be two layers of plastic?  Or is the whole 5-gal bucket enclosed in the liner.

How do you pull the bag up and mist?  Is the bucket lid taken off, then the bag on the top layer is pulled up and mist goes on the top of the bucket?  I'm not sure what you mean by 'just mist the holes'.

Also, do you ever use a 100% wood chip substrate?  It seems like you prefer blends of substrates.  If I want a 100% or primarily wood chip substrate, how do you think that would go/what would be best to add?  I'm thinking that as well as fruiting in buckets, this could be used to expand grain spawn to wood chips for making wood chip spawn to create outdoor beds of various woodloving species.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Generic] * 1
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Not an expert (I've only really used wood fuel pellets in bags), but I'd like to do some bucket oysters and think I understand the tek.

The trash bag goes inverted over the top of the bucket to cover the bucket (and the substrate otherwise exposed by the bucket holes). It keeps the air in there moist and the CO2 high for colonization. You don't need to open the bucket for misting. You just need to replenish moisture lost by the substrate exposed to air through the holes in the bucket.

I imagine combinations of chips and smaller wood would work better than just chips, because the substrate will have a little more structure. Why not just see how it goes with chips alone?


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Phaethon]
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:whathesaid:
Yep.  The liner just keeps the moisture in while colonizing/pinning.  Did I write 30gal?  I think the ones I use are 13gal.  30 is fine too though, but I wouldn't go bigger because you want the bag to hug the bucket fairly closely. 

I'll add a photo or two to the tek to clarify the bag part :thumbup:

Also: just woodchips alone fine as long as you soak them good enough to saturate them.  I just blend stuff together to use whatever I have, and because it makes for a mix that holds maximum water.  Woodchips leave air gaps for instance- which is fine.  IF I happened to have some sawdust or compost or old cube subsbor whatever,  I'd mix them to make a more dense mix (to hold more water).  I run just woodchips often enough though.  Works great.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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:hatsoff:
Love that55gal blue barrel.


I used to use one of those for whiskey mash, mmm good times.

Also how did you make your lettuce planter, I dig.

Edited by LewDoja (01/12/25 02:54 AM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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Lordy I'd love to be back making whiskey or even corn liquor again...  I have some 40gal proper barrels for exactly that sitting on my shit pile out back, actually...:strokebeard:
The planter I made by drilling/starting one end of the 5-5" cuts I made throughout the drum with my Sawzall. Then I took a propane torch and a crowbar and 2x4 scrap and heated the cut sites up - and forced in the bar and then the 2x4 to bend the openings out sufficiently to accommodate plant stalks.  Fucking PITA,  but they last years.  Then I take a section of septic drain pipe or drilled-out PVC 6" and sit it in the center and fill around it.  This aerates the center mass and prevents problems with fungi or bacteria.  Started filling them with old oyster subs one year to make mulch (they also make good mulch and compost depending on how you use them (the drums):awesomenod: and when 8" wide oyster caps started peeking out I thought well shit - it's just a big bucket, huh? :stoned:



*edited multiple times because my old ass can't handle dabs, apparently :facepalm:


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Edited by alaskappalachian (01/12/25 02:23 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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:hatsoff:  that's kinda what i was thinking, except for the Drain pipe, good idea.

I'm the same way, i remember my first dab I didn't (couldn't) talk or move for 3 hrs was still way too high 5+ hr

Edited by LewDoja (01/12/25 05:00 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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Looks good, gonna add this to the sticky at the top of gourmet threads


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Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Ziran]
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:radman:  Hell yeah.  Thanks, man.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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Amazing write up homie :cheer:


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Psicomb] * 2
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Thanks broski!:rockon:  Working on spawn prep for a couple more bucket writeups for chestnuts, reishi, and lion's mane
:winning:


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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Niiiice!  You’re doin the lords work.  Your pics are really impressive for a set up this low-tech.  And I don’t mean that derogatorily; I LOVE and prefer low-tech. 

I’ll post results in a couple months with oysters!  Just need it to warm up a tiny bit.  Heck, the time I have spawn ready itll be warm enough.

Also gonna try this with kings.  Don’t expect it to work close to as well with king oyster but I mean with a tek this straightforward, why the hell not try?

Please keep us posted with those other species..!

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Psicomb]
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Psicomb said:
Niiiice!  You’re doin the lords work.  Your pics are really impressive for a set up this low-tech.  And I don’t mean that derogatorily; I LOVE and prefer low-tech. 

I’ll post results in a couple months with oysters!  Just need it to warm up a tiny bit.  Heck, the time I have spawn ready itll be warm enough.

Also gonna try this with kings.  Don’t expect it to work close to as well with king oyster but I mean with a tek this straightforward, why the hell not try?

Please keep us posted with those other species..!


I wonder if you could top fruit these big buckets with king oyster, just case them really well


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Ziran] * 2
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I bet kings would do well treated just like other oysters. They find the holes and grow out just like youd want.


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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: deadmandave] * 1
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from what I remember, kings are the only ones that really like being top fruited. info could have changed since then


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zìrán and it means that of which is of itself.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: Ziran] * 3
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Thanks AA,

Really enjoying the bucket tek:


As stated: yields are enough for friends and family giveaways.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: MetalPro] * 1
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Ah sweet :radman:

Love seeing people's bucket grows.  Thanks for sharing!  Looking real nice :crazy2:  Running some blues m'self soon... Did you run those indoors or out?
**Edit- also, if you don't mind me asking- what stuff did you use for the sub for those?


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Edited by alaskappalachian (01/22/25 09:17 PM)

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: alaskappalachian]
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Thanks, ran these indoors in a very dry, cool basement - about 63-65F and 40%RH which is why I was impressed with results.  I'm in a cold climate so outdoors is not an option till April/May. They did get misted twice a day, 'almost' every day. My first round for bucket tek I ran 2 buckets - way too many BO at once for just me and my wife! Current round is one bucket.

Substrate is mainly wood chips(40%)/sawdust(40%)/straw(20%) -  I'm lucky enough to have a nearly endless supply of chips and sawdust from my other hobbies (3pt chipper shredder is the bomb; if you have trees, $, energy and room highly recommended). Chipping is my summer workout...



Sawdust is mainly red and white oak; chips are some oak but also a lot of scrub trees - I have acres of buckthorn/russian olive with some aspen, alder and hornbeam thrown in.

Follow up question for you: is bucket tek considered efficient enough to consistently produce for small scale, farmers market style sales? I love the low equipment/materials input cost but my manhours for prep seam on the high side (perfect for the winter though). I might need a more efficient pasteurization method to do more than 1 or 2 buckets/week.

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Re: The 49th Oyster Bucket Tek [Re: MetalPro]
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Nice.  Thanks for the reply.  Yeah that's what I love about oysters: cold(er) weather performance.  They love it in the low 50s and nights in the 40s here for months of the year (well... not pinks, but the rest do), but don't mind it at 80f either on our rare "hot" summer days if they can stay moist.

Oak is a bang-on, amazing sub choice 👍  If I could get it here I'd horde it.

Definitely works for farmer's market production.  In fact, that's how I got a started doing these.  What works great for bulk chips for me is just dumping hot water on a 55gal barrel like half full of chips(with a $5 spigot/valve installed) and draining.  Before I could just drain it I'd shove it over on its side and just let the water run out lol. You can also ferment chips and such in full 55gal barrels to use.  No boiling required.  I hate the smell though, and have to keep mosquitoes from breeding in there- but it's as low tech as it gets,  and this is probably the best use case for it.  There's also lime, but I'm cheap, and it doesn't seem to work as well for some reason.  When you're chipping for example and have a tractor, it would be tractor buckets full of chips raised above multiple 55gal drums and scooped/shoveled in and fill em up with the hose, and wait at least a week.  Drain, use, repeat.

There are also barrels+ heating elements for bulk pasteurization,  but for oysters,  fermentation in drums is hella efficient.


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