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Amazon Shop: Agar, Hydroponics Supplies, San Pedro

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Hydroponic san pedro
    #2887136 - 07/13/04 08:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Someone asked a long time ago if it was possible to grow cactus in a hydroponic system.

the answer most commonly given has been "no".

I'm now ready to claim this task and say with quite a bit of research... YES! it is FULLY possible to grow a san pedro cactus in a hydroponic system.

here is the plan.

I plan to aquire a decent 7 - 11 inch UNROOTED! cutting (if anyone is willing to donate for the cause... it would be apreciated)otherwise i'll dig up a source somewhere.

I have made a drip system tub filled with grorox for the medium and setup.

the next step is to aquire a cactus, and set the drip system timer.
photograph and write my findings.

for those of you intrested in my findings please keep checking up with this post...

photos will be fully included with my report in
"the liquid cacti tek"


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: kolizion]
    #2887509 - 07/13/04 10:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the answer was yes, Una has even posted pics of hydro cacti...


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: felixhigh]
    #2887611 - 07/13/04 11:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

una posted pics of cacti propogation in a agar based formula, using micropropogation techniques. it is not meant to support a full size cactus.

if una posted a dif. thread than that one, please hook me up w/ the linkage.

its worth a shot to try this out, but you have to remember that the number one way to kill a cactus is to overwater it. your technique may need some adjusting...

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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: angryjslice]
    #2887668 - 07/13/04 11:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yea and hard to mantain for so long with little growth compared to vegetables.

so what woudl be the advantage. and risk VS reward. and time Vs reward. though would be fun for awhile. thats just me though


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: angryjslice]
    #2887945 - 07/14/04 01:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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una posted pics of cacti propogation in a agar based formula, using micropropogation techniques. it is not meant to support a full size cactus.

if una posted a dif. thread than that one, please hook me up w/ the linkage.
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Links can be found in this post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ev=#Post1272292


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Gumby]
    #2888272 - 07/14/04 03:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

all those qustions is exatly what I would like to find out. maybe a stronger alkaloid content. If you could induce nutes directly into the root system... it is quite possible that the cactus could become a faster growing / stronger cactus.

and all in all... simply completing the task of a hydro cactus.... is more rewarding then having not.


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: angryjslice]
    #2888283 - 07/14/04 03:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i'm talking about a post with pics of cactus growing in glasses under simple hydro setups... it's really odd.
and i'm not talking about plant tissue culture. =P

actually the conclusion was that when it starts to get tall and heavy you'll start to get problems... so everyone is back to the old dirt and pot since then... mostly.


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: felixhigh]
    #2889191 - 07/14/04 12:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

When they start to get tall chop and graft the top back on the bottom, or if you get a pup chop anyhing above it. Also you can buche em together so they hold eachother up. A $60 diy areospring with 8 san pedros would grow a allot of cactus fast :laugh:


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2889550 - 07/14/04 02:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i think it's a bit illusional to think they'll grow faster in this way!
perhaps a tiny bit but nothing you wouldn't get with well balanced NPK on the roots and foliar...


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: felixhigh]
    #2889689 - 07/14/04 02:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hydro does grow plants a lot faster. I was kicking around the idea of doing it myself. I think you would need small pebbles for the substrate because you don't want all that water up against the stem. The weight of the plant would surely be a problem when it got larger. It might be a good tech for growing seedlings or cuttings. Grow them up to a couple feet and then chop them back. When you get pups, cut them off when they are large enough and start a new plant. I do that now with my soil grows.


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Stonehenge]
    #2889757 - 07/14/04 03:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

unstressed fast growing environment will produce low alkaloids. and you wont even be able to enjoy looking at them.


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Stonehenge]
    #2889764 - 07/14/04 03:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

if weight would be a problem maybe it would be a good way to grow grafted peyote, the weight wouldnt be that much of a problem that way. guess youd have to find out whether it actually grew faster or not to know if it would be worthwhile


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: the man]
    #2890164 - 07/14/04 04:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Why wouldn't I be able to enjoy looking at them? Besides, you can have the low alk problem with any type of grow. That doesn't mean you want slow growth, it means you don't harvest and use them right after a period of fast growth. It might be good to use the hydro to produce lots of pups or lots of cuttings and then root the cuttings and let them grow normally. Besides harvesting, pedros are good for grafting stock as has been said. The plan I'm working on now is to have lots and lots of pedro growing in my garden to the point I could harvest 10lb a week if I wanted to. I'm not quite there yet and I still like expanding my garden. I don't give a hoot if the ones I have now are all that high in alks as long as they grow fast and will be potent later on. :grin:


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Stonehenge]
    #2890385 - 07/14/04 05:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You can always change the time to only mist the roots once or twice a day and run em real dry to stress em before the chop. You cant enjoy looking because the hydro setup dosent look as nice as a clay pot.


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2891464 - 07/15/04 12:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

this experement has nothing to do with "pretty"....


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Re: Hydroponic san pedro [Re: kolizion]
    #2891514 - 07/15/04 12:12 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You have to treat the plants with some respect though. I like a more simple looking garden then a technological marvel. Organic soil cactus is just add water and the plants are easily movable.


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