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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2726677 - 05/25/04 08:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

OK, what's the difference between figure 4 and figure 5?

The cutting in 5 looks like quite a bit more cactus than the cutting in figure 4. You say this 'or' that, but they seem quite different amounts..


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: macro]
    #2726907 - 05/25/04 10:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Picture 4 was a collection of cacti of various weights and sies. the top one in image four ia almost 2 pounds.

The one in picture five is close to 1 pound. IT is the one used in the cooking.

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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2750702 - 05/31/04 09:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if you or anyone can tell me if this is just for one person to drink? Or would I need like 1 cacti for each person?
I seem to be having trouble finding this out, thanks!


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: CactiNewbie]
    #2752171 - 06/01/04 06:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

one cacti each per person. One cacti weighing approzimately one pound or slightly more, is the equivelent of 300-5-- millgrams which would be considered a clinical dosage.

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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2757680 - 06/02/04 07:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info!!
4 of us tried 1 cactus - as it did nothing for my friends I had like a 10 minute trip with it. Can't wait to find more :smile:
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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: CactiNewbie]
    #2759963 - 06/03/04 10:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The high last for 8-12 hours and longer. No one gets off for just ten minutes on the cactus.

mj

And where did you find your cacti as you said
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Can't wait to find more




I hope uyou are not going around picking cacti you find growing in your neighborhood?

mj

There are cacti that can make you sick.
Which ones I do not know but there are.

mj

If you did not purchase it form a reputable dealer or stor, then i would advisr against picking any if that is what you ae doing.

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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2770948 - 06/07/04 09:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks mj, keep up the good work :smile:


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2772182 - 06/07/04 05:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So just to clarify things as far as the dosage is concerned...

mj, you say the good "starter" amount is about 1-1/2 pounds. Not to be a nuisance, but have you shown people their "first cactus experience?" And if you did, I would assume you went 1 to 1 1/2 pounds per person. Did any of them not experience a trip? Would it be safe to assume that a person who has had experience with Choc stars "shrooms/peyote in chocolate" might be able to handle 2 lbs? I just say this because if I am going to order this, and have it shipped, and take hours to do this, I want to make sure I get a good enough effect.

What do ya think?

PS. 3 more questions. Can you freeze the Cactus for a while before you make it? and can you bottle up the juice for a future "journey" and keep it in the fridge? And what is your thought on buying from ebay. I know you say "reputible dealer." Any sellers in the US that you would recommend over others?

Sorry for being a pain in the ass, but this method you have concocted looks too good to be true. And what is the legal status of this cacti? Seems like it is legal, but if cops came in to my house and I had a big ol "witches cauldron" and a boat paddle stirring it up..would I be "up the creek"?


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3049341 - 08/25/04 06:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Hi,

I plan on doing this soon, and I know that this thread is a bit old, and it probably isn't checked often, but. A couple questions...

(2): Fill one cup of cactus to one cup of water (fig. 11).
and pour mixture into the blender (Fig. 12).

(3) Now blend this mixture until the two cups of cactus bits and cup of water mix to the top of the blender (Fig. 13).

Maybe I'm a bit out of it, or just reading it wrong, but does step 3 imply that there are 2 cups of cactus to each cup of water? sorry

Secondly, this is just a basic outline question, as i got lost once or twice.
a.You blend the water and cactus to mix them
b.As the boil begins, they start to seperate (and you must be careful of overflow). The mescaline is now in the water?
c.The water and cactus combine back together as the boil continues? the mescaline is still in the water? what causes the overflowing to cease. just evaporation?
d.After it is boiled down, you are left with goop. the mescaline, being in the water, will be filtered into a cup for drinking. what if there is not much water left? will it be too much of a solid to pass through the cloth?

sorry for the massive confusion on my part.


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3049542 - 08/25/04 07:18 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3050988 - 08/26/04 12:40 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

HI, Just saw your post and thought I would be so kind as to reply to your qwuestions.

One is you put one container, a plastic half pound potato salad container is what I use. Fill it with water, pour the water inthe blender.

Than cut some of the cactus, unless you cut it all up at once like I usually do, and fill the empty potato salad container (I think they hold a cup and a half or more of water) with a s9imilar amount of chopped cactus. Add that to the blemder which has one cup of water.

If you do not put water the blade of the blender will break..

When it blends, the mixtutre separates, although you do not notice it. Let it blend unbtil the mixture reaches near the top of the blender.
That would seem like many cups of liquid, as seen in the photos in h this post of mine.

Pour the mixture in the large four to 8 quart pot like I use.

Repeat the process untill all of the cactus is in the pot.

Now what happens is that the mixture is separated once you start to cook it. The water will be in the bottom of the pot and the slimy gooey grren pulp will rise to the top like a cake does int he oven.

You need to keep stirring, sometimes removing the pot fromt he heat til; it settles down and eventually within 15 minutes or so become mostly water and then you can turn up the heat to makle it boil a little faster.

Ho[pe that helps you opout somewhat. But it seems to work each time.

Only a few have had a few questions about the cooking and blending.

Its a shame I cannot give a class on the preparation of the cactus.

Maybe one day a preperation demonstration of a normal cactus, one which no one can drink when the cooking and filtering is done but one which shows how to do it step by step. IT is a process of patience.

Remember the Indians in Peru and Ecuador have no blenders. They boiil cac ti day and night for healing and curing ceremonies.

mj

(2): Fill one cup of cactus to one cup of water (fig. 11).
and pour mixture into the blender (Fig. 12).

(3) Now blend this mixture until the two cups of cactus bits and water mix to the top of the blender (Fig. 13).

Maybe I'm a bit out of it, or just reading it wrong, but does step 3 imply that there are 2 cups of cactus to each cup of water? sorry

NO it is one cup of cactus to w one cup of water. You can always add a little more water to cooking if you want to stretch the cooking time.

Cooking as I wrote it givess one about 98% of the chemical in the cactus.


Secondly, this is just a basic outline question, as i got lost once or twice.
a.You blend the water and cactus to mix them
b.As the boil begins, they start to seperate (and you must be careful of overflow). The mescaline is now in the water?
c.The water and cactus combine back together as the boil continues? the mescaline is still in the water? what causes the overflowing to cease. just evaporation?

he overflo0w ceases since the mixture is o now as one. The heavy crushed pulp is at the bottom of the pot being boiled to pieces

d.After it is boiled down, you are left with goop. the mescaline, being in the water, will be filtered into a cup for drinking. what if there is not much water left? will it be too much of a solid to pass through the cloth?

Look at the image. I use a sock or an old t-shirt and make a cup with it in the blender.

You want as little water as possible. It is not hard to swallow a drink of it because you do not have to taste the drink by putting your tongue to the top of your mouth. Take a drink of grapefruit jusice or orange after each swallow and take approximately 0ne=half hour to consume the total liquid. You will be high at exactly two hours fromt he time you took your first sip, although you will began to feel the effects within 45-60 minuters, the real tripp begins exactly about two hours formt hat first sip.

sorry for the massive confusion on my part.

No problem.

mj


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3071525 - 08/31/04 12:13 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

So, the pot will have 3-5 quarts of water, and THEN you add the water/cactus mix?


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3072056 - 08/31/04 02:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

No, You put o nop water in the pot at first. Only the water-cactus misture from the v blender. after allt he cactus with water from blennding is inthe pot then you ca n add more m water to boil it longer if you want to. I boil it down and sometimes add a quart of more water when the pit gets down to about two inches high int he bottom.

Extra water just helps booil out more mescaline into the brew.

Again it is pretty much all you will get. Patience is the jkey. Takje your time. DO nort be in a hurry and the end product witll be f worth the effort involved in preparing the cactus.

Remember, The Perucians and Ecuadorians do not use blenders r so they coli for 12 t0 24 hours.
,mj


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3073177 - 08/31/04 11:31 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thanks. I think all my questions have been answered.

hope to try it out this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3074938 - 08/31/04 07:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hi ! very nice pics method !
i have to practise it in few time , but i am french, and english or american measure are very confused for me like " foot, inch , oz ,,,,)
I just want to know how much grams or kilograms of san pedro is necessary for one dose for one person ? because when you say a section of one foot we don t know what is the diameter of the cactus ?


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mezkal]
    #3075062 - 08/31/04 07:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

half a kilo is a little more than a pound right? that should do it. a foot of cactus could be any weight, so.. best to just go by the weight.


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3183889 - 09/26/04 10:39 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone see any problem with, after straining through a shirt, simmering down that liquid to about half? None of the mescaline would be lost, right? Why couldn't you just simmer it all the way down to an ounce or so of thick goo? :/


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: Ayrios]
    #3183917 - 09/26/04 10:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think most people boil it down to the size of a shot glass.


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: PinballWizard]
    #3183930 - 09/26/04 10:50 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hopefully it'll be cool then. I'm not so worried about volume since I'm lining my mouth with benzocaine first :wink:


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Re: Exclusive Pictorial: How To Prepare San Pedro (Photos) [Re: Ayrios]
    #3183937 - 09/26/04 10:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

cactus goop is a horrible texture IMHO. i wouldn't want to see how nasty that would go down as 1 or 2 ounces. also, you don't want to shock the crap out of your central nervous system with something so powerful. the best is to just drink 1/2 of your supply...then wait about 30 minutes and get the rest down. the less sludgier the solution, the easier it is to get down...IMHO.


Edited by Psilostylin (09/26/04 10:55 PM)


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