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never stop tripping?????
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does anyone know anyone that never came back from a trip?i know a guy who never came back on acid, but not on shrooms.


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Well, maybe if the person is susceptible to schizophrenia, and they take a large amount.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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thats kinda misleading..... as once the chemical leaves your body, the trip has completely stopped cause there is no longer a chemical producing the effects.... what your reffering to is when someone whith a latent mental problem would take a psychedelic without knowing he had a problem.... and the drug would set off a bad reaction in his brain.... causing a psychotic episode.. which in some cases the person will never return back to 'normal'...... so yea... ive seen it happen several times

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Every time I trip, I dream of being able to keep tripping forever.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Ekstaza]
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Hmm, after a while wouldn't you learn to cope with it? It would sort of become normal, or atleast I'd imagine. I've done mushrooms, then consistantly smoked for hours on end and after a while it's just blah...

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Infrared]
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the person i know that never came back on acid didn't have any schizo's in his family, graduated top of his class,went to college on a full paid scholarship,played college football, and ate a lot of acid and now he's in his mid 30's, sits at home in his boxers,with his mom and dad and talk's about pink floyd 24/7."shine on you crazy diamond". maybe he did have latent mental problems ,do you know if you do?


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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thats the thing... latent means hidden, unknown..... just cause no one in his immediate family has schizophrenia doesnt mean that he couldnt have it.... and it doesnt sound like hes schizo anyways...... some people are just weird to begin with and when they take psychedelics their weirdness is intensified

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Infrared]
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DeepBlue42 said:
thats the thing... latent means hidden, unknown..... just cause no one in his immediate family has schizophrenia doesnt mean that he couldnt have it.... and it doesnt sound like hes schizo anyways...... some people are just weird to begin with and when they take psychedelics their weirdness is intensified


*raises hand*  :grin:

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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I have a friend who felt the heavy effects of four hits of LSD for over a month after he took them. Had to quit his job and was basically taken care of by a good friend the entire time. He had taken LSD at high doses many many times before that. It's weird, you just never know.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: MOTH]
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I've heard many rumors of stuff like people never coming back from acid trips, but never something i'd trust. I thought Terence and Dennis McKennas experiment in True Hallucinations where Dennis was tripping for 3 months was interesting though :laugh:


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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ive seen your posts...im pretty sure u are just saying stupid things to be a forum troll... so forgive me if i dont believe u

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: KingOftheThing]
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KingOftheThing said:
ive seen your posts...im pretty sure u are just saying stupid things to be a forum troll... so forgive me if i dont believe u

:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: KingOftheThing]
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KingOftheThing said:
ive seen your posts...im pretty sure u are just saying stupid things to be a forum troll... so forgive me if i dont believe u


exactly, that reads more like freevibe.com bullshit than truth.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Ive had a very very intense mushroom trip that left me feeling off for a while. I had been using mushrooms every weekend for a while tho, i believe thats what caused it. Every time i would smoke herb it would bring back the tripping mindset. Or somthing would make me associate with the trip and it would bring back that mind racing mindset.

It faded after a while and i gained a whole lot more respect for psychadelics. I now limit myself to tripping 2x a year and every trip since then(ive only taken lsd since then) has been great.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Yeah, my aunt is in a mental hospital from doing a lot of acid and I guess she just fell off the deep end. She sees dead babies hanging from the ceiling and shit to this day. Pretty fucked up.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: McKennaFan200]
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Every now and then I have symptoms of HPPD, but its not bad.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: MeThoD]
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IF you take acid, and never come back, its because you had like previously mentioned, unsurfaced psychological problems.

If you are an unstable person, and take acid, your instability will surface, and it will be ugly.

If you are a stable solid minded person you will gain power from the experience.

Im sure that if you take a massive dose of LSD or Mushrooms, you would return in a very special state, very open to the hyper vibrations of planet earth. I will do that one day, when it is time.

peace and love.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: psikooz]
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psikooz said:
If you are an unstable person, and take acid, your instability will surface, and it will be ugly.



That's not true.

I'm very unstable; but I realize it's because of many people that try to put me down.

And whenever I trip; I don't think about it actually; I just get a terrific experience; there is madness; ( eg. Thinking you have calculated that remembering one fact takes 1/64.000.000 of one second; or that 100years of history are racing through your thoughts per second...)
but I haven't had one bad trip over a total of 50 trips...

And tripping always makes me think about those few people I can call my best friends.

Nope; no ugly experiences here for an unstable dude.
It's all in the mind. :wink:


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: boeha]
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Same here.

It's indeed the mental power that counts.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: KingOftheThing]
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one who knows little, thinks little.most of my trips are great spiritual awakenings,but some times i do slip off into the state of mind that is pure horror,and i guess knowing someone who has never come back has created this fear.the fear of being unable to work,being unable to pay my bills"i got a lot of bills",being unable to love,being unable to carry on a conversation!i dwell in the 5 dry gram region everytime i trip ,i know this contributes to my fear ,but i find weaker trips boreing"if i don't reach hyperspace".i was hopeing to get some fullproof positive feedback from this post,but i guess this IS a game of russian roulette.i've never heard of anyone not coming back from a shroom trip,but most of you don't know anyone that went veggi on acid.to bad you couldn't get on a computer and tell people you went crazy,if you went crazy .o.k. i'm ready for some more useless ,uninformed feedback!


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

Edited by skullfarmer1979 (07/07/04 11:54 AM)

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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its called HPPD, and its hell.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Redo]
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Thanks a million R edo.i never knew they had a website all about HPPD.now i'm really scared shitless.www.stormloader.com.now see.......... i'm not a troll!


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

Edited by skullfarmer1979 (07/07/04 12:18 PM)

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Ok, I 'was' definitively god, covered as John the Baptist for over 1 1/2 year. Most of my friends ever thought I would never come back. My dad wantet to send me in a 'mental hospital'. In this time I realized a lot of synchronicity (or how it's called) and I don't know until today if my mind had tricked me, or if it was real.
After realising, that I wasn't wrong with wat I spoke, and realised the different levels of 'falling of believe' by different people, it was my decision to come back in - it lasted some more months. The main reason for this was the lack of compatibility with the 'all-normal' consciousness of others, which was not able to cope with my state of mind. I think my consciousness totally went in the right half of my brain, that's how my recognitions and my talkings did show. I talked mostly in metaphors and recieved my surroundings in a very holistic way. Realy crazy stories I could tell, for example I was able to influence the television. Better said, the television reacted to what I thought. Or that I practiced the revelation as a ritual (breaking the seals). I heard the voices of all humans in my mind as they pleaded for mercy at the end of the world. Everywhere there were signs and I could see everyone as true from his many incarnations.
I categorized people from nonbelievers to believers, all with their special characteristics. As my father wanted to send me to mental hospital he put me in a trap (literally) with police and so on and I escaped, using signs, then convincing the police that my dad was doing wrong. It all was really not bad for me, because everything really totally worked out. So, even if it was totally amazing, I didn't want to go back to this state for a longer time. If you are in, the ways to escape get very small and you must be very clever, strong and paradoxly very faithful to get out. You must see the reason, why you must get out of this state of mind. Otherways I think it's hopeless.
I think, if you really don't want to come back by yourself, you really wont. At leat, some understanding people had helped but really finally, I helped my self.
Befor that I occupied much with occults, spirits and practiced some. I was a 'fighter' for believe and faith. my dream was to open the spiritual world to the real world. I dreamed about beeing some kind of holy person. I wanted prooves and evidences.
So for this time, it came true for me, but badly only for me. No one (except one) could follow me to the conclusions of my thinkings.
I learned really a lot fom this and it was a really hard way. Especially at the beginning, as it seemed as my uncounscious mind broke into my consciousness and at the end, to settle down back in reality. That, I have done with prayings and hard 'wanting'.
So, it left as a prescious treasure inside of me and as long as society is not able to cope with those mindstates, I wont carry it out for the extreme anymore.

Blessings

Ad: This was over 10 years ago


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

Edited by BlueCoyote (07/07/04 03:44 PM)

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Ekstaza]
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listen up!yea of little faith and littler minds!


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

Edited by skullfarmer1979 (07/07/04 01:36 PM)

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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my best friend in the whole world went psycho and tried to kill his dad cause he thought he was going to get raped and murdered in front of the whole world. When he finally got out of the looney bin...he was gay...and didnt make any sense when he talked.

He just called from california where he is chilling at a rehab thing for a while and he seems back to normal for the most part now.

but ill save the details for a later thread


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Love like you never been hurt.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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I know a guy whos pretty much retarted from eating acid pretty much everyday. He can still do stuff like hes an amazing drummer, but hes stupid as hell. He basicly blames everything on the acid and the fact that he was heart broken by alot of his girlfriends...i think he was just fucked up to begin with. Hes still a cool guy though.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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skullfarmer1979 said:
listen up!yea of little faith and littler minds!


Exactly what does this supposed to mean? I don't recall saying any negative shit to you.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Ekstaza]
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sorry dude, i just clicked on your quick reply. they know who they are.


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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ive seen it before they look like they are having a blast

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: hugo]
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I thought I was a glass of orange juice for 15 years. I was terrified I was going to "spill". Then someone pushed me over and I died.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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skullfarmer1979 said:
listen up!yea of little faith and littler minds!


Yep


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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yah there is HPPD,but i've never heard of someone stuck in a trip, just someone mentally stuck... i dunno. My step dad had a friend who tried acid for his first time and never came down and today is still in a mental institution


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: FatVsAsia]
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FatVsAsia said:
yah there is HPPD,but i've never heard of someone stuck in a trip, just someone mentally stuck... i dunno. My step dad had a friend who tried acid for his first time and never came down and today is still in a mental institution



Thats what we call HPPD, with other illnesses all in one, which is basically HPPD.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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I've experienced a bunch of these symptoms, but they vary and are spread out over time. I've come down from a couple hits of acid and was definitly not myself, definitly insane to some extent, this lasted for about 12 hours after the trip, so 24 after the dose. I loved it. I remember listening to some Barrett Floyd, I think the Live side of Ummagumma, and screaming as loud as I could with Syd and getting the greatest satisfaction out of it. Since then I've tripped a bunch more, mushrooms, acid, 5meodmt, and have more, different symptoms. I can usually get closed eye plasma visuals at will, usually, yellow on purple. Sometimes I can be in a train of thought, while I'm simultaneusly somewhere else and see nothing, a hole. It's weird, and must sound odd, but sometimes I see a complete absence of everything. I get trails of light, which causes me to see what if i didn't know any better appear to be UFOs. Then I hit a low point, about after the first time I did coke, coming down from acid. I was doing OC here and there, along with coke and took a great liking to them, had dreams about getting hoards of them, etc.. Then I dropped out of high school, half way through my senior year, got more depressed and basically lived 'Wharf rat'. I then started getting paranoid when smoking, and around my friends. I felt like an outsider, and I think I got a little weird. I had a great shroom trip recently though, and I wont ever do anything but trip and smoke from now on. Im a little less paranoid now, but still in isolation, not fitting in anywhere but in my own head. I don't know why Im writing this, but it feels good to get out. Maybe others have felt this way too. Just be careful, serious depression and drugs don't mix well. That's alot off my shoulders.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: nosaj]
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nosaj said:
Im a little less paranoid now, but still in isolation, not fitting in anywhere but in my own head.


That's how I feel alot of times. Also, I have a preoccupation with constantly worrying that nobody is "listening" to me, and I noticed this especially during a recent trip. So when I think that nobody is "listening," it makes it harder to communicate because I think, "What's the point..."

Anyway, I've always had this problem. Growing up in a large religious family, often times nobody would ever listen to me at all. Parental units never cared to hear what I had to say, and if I said anything they ignored it, and so I grew up feeling constantly invalidated and hurt by that.

Just recently this has come up from shrooming, which has excerberated my feeling that "nobody is listening." Personally I think it's a good opportunity for me to confront these issues that I have. I've always had a rough time communicating my thoughts and feelings, and now this dilemma is pushed to the forefront of my awareness so that hopefully I can move past my own misgivings and concern about communicating with others.

Anyway, sorry this was sorta off topic.

*me*

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: nosaj]
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yeah ,i 'can't really say i suffer from the symptoms of HPPD,but i do have symptoms.the one that gets me every time is when i'm all alone at my place and i see something move out of the coner of my eye,and when i quickly look to see who or what has found it's way into my house and scared the shit out of me, there's nothing there!this happens almost daily.


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I TASTE THE WREAKAGE OF CRUMBLING FACES,I KNOW THE PALE THING IN THE DARKEST OF PLACES. -DAX RIGGS-

get the most out of life,listen to ACID BATH!!!!

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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Never tried acid before. But it sounds like it really fucks with your head.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: FatVsAsia]
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My step dad had a friend who tried acid for his first time and never came down and today is still in a mental institution

Pretty much everyone has a "friend" who never came down, and usually a "friend" who thinks he's a glass of orange juice. It's an urban myth.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Xlea321]
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Alex123 said:
My step dad had a friend who tried acid for his first time and never came down and today is still in a mental institution

Pretty much everyone has a "friend" who never came down, and usually a "friend" who thinks he's a glass of orange juice. It's an urban myth.


Believe it, or not. I speak from experience.
Perhaps you should visit a mental institution and ask the dorctors there why the patients are there (for some scientific essays you are working on).
I think you will find more than one, who is there, perhaps already for a long time, who is wearing out the effects of 'never coming' down, dude.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
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sHrOoMeRrR420 said:
Never tried acid before. But it sounds like it really fucks with your head.


Most people are fine, but the people that get fucked up you never hear about, because they are in the institutions.

If your going to do psychedelics, shrooms are always a much safer bet then acid. And more fun too :wink:

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
Ok, I 'was' definitively god, covered as John the Baptist for over 1 1/2 year.

...





All of your story was a very cool and interesting read. Thanks for sharing it  :heart: :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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i tripped 4 5 days on mushis last year scareist shit ever i did some nutty shit ive only just started again i just have 2 take it easy

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: masterg]
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Thanks! If anyone wants details, I would be pleased to share my personal experiences.

There is a way out

nosaj, ellemysh: I think I know, what you feel. I always had the luck to have some friends who were realistic in material ways, but also open to personal and general spirituality, therefor critics on both sides (with personal favours). I also would put me in this category. Logical, funded and deep discussions with open-minded and good-willing people help out a lot to find some balance.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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I almost went completely schizophrenic from moderate DXM/acid/mushroom use coupled with PTSD.

I can only dose mescal and LSD now.

But I'm like 90% better.

I was diagnosed with schizo-effective disorder, which is a broad category. Essentially, its the shadow of schizophrenia. Delusions (grandeur, paranoid), social anxiety, HPPD which thank god I did not tell them about and just faded away over time without me being admitted to the blue ward, and others. Like a mindfuck while tripping, half of getting better was realizing I wasn't as bad as I thought I was.

LSD is a very safe drug. So is mescaline. You never have to worry about *shit* on those trips. You could argue, s2dope, why don't you take mushrooms? I'd rather have a moderate to intense 12-16 hours than a heavy to MINDFUCKINGBLOWN 4 hour, and in my current state, they don't agree with me. Although they are about just as safe as LSD and mescaline. YMMV.

I guess all I gotta say after all these hours of therapy, meds, mixing meds, new meds, getting off meds, addictive meds...

Work your way up if you don't know your potency, take time between trips, make sure there is no family history of mental disorders (tho this doesn't mean you may have them), leave your drugs at home (sitting in a holding cell tripping may sound like fun, but its not), and trip with good people.

Good people do not TRY to bug you out, pull tricks on you, leave you in the woods or whatever you kids do these days :wink: Good people will also not criticize you or your experience and will be there to hold your hand through a tough time and bring you out of a bad experience. Oh, and don't bug yourself out. You really are just on a drug, its gonna wear off, sit back and enjoy the show while it lasts.

set'n'setting

edit: 2 Antipsychotics (dopamine shooters), 3 SSRIs (depression), clonazepam 10mg/day (anxiety). Jobs lost because of med side effects: 2. Time/money from aforementioned jobs lost: ~$20k. Hours spent in therapy: over a week straight if you added the hours up. Times removed from doctors office in handcuffs for fear of safety: 2.

Be careful with your drugs, kids.

Edited by s2dope (07/10/04 11:36 AM)

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Adden]
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Quote:
s2dope said:
I almost went completely schizophrenic from moderate DXM/acid/mushroom use coupled with PTSD.

I can only dose mescal and LSD now.

I was diagnosed with schizo-effective disorder, which is a broad category. Essentially, its the shadow of schizophrenia. Delusions (grandeur, paranoid), social anxiety, HPPD which thank god I did not tell them about and just faded away over time without me being admitted to the blue ward, and others. Like a mindfuck while tripping, half of getting better was realizing I wasn't as bad as I thought I was.

edit: 2 Antipsychotics (dopamine shooters), 3 SSRIs (depression), clonazepam 10mg/day (anxiety). Jobs lost because of med side effects: 2. Time/money from aforementioned jobs lost: ~$20k. Hours spent in therapy: over a week straight if you added the hours up. Times removed from doctors office in handcuffs for fear of safety: 2.

Be careful with your drugs, kids.



Quote:

LSD is a very safe drug. So is mescaline.




Am I missing something? I have a hard time believing its a severe as you say it is, or that you still dose on LSD or mescaline. One of the two statements are false.

Irregardless, LSD is a very safe drug, same with mescaline, you basically give me a speech on how bad it fucked you up and hten say its safe.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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NIACINAMIDE
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(tripstopstuff)
thank you dr abram hoffer


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: gnrm23]
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gnrm23, are you saying if someone starts freaking out you can take niacinamide and it will bring you down?


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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YES !!!!!!!!!!

dr hoffer & others have reported that giving an lsd tripper a few hundred milligrams of niacinamide will pretty much stop most of the trip in less than 1 hour...

do the googlesearch ---> not everybody is gonna agree (and, again, maybe not everybody will "wind down" a trip with 250 mg niacinamide, but i consider it to be effective enough to be my first line of "pharmaceutical intervention" (followed, i suppose, by a tablet or 2 of a benzodiazapine (e.g. "valium") if you can get 'em; i may have an old compazine or thorazine laying around, but i don't like the "headspace" from phenothiazine anti-psychotics!)

~

& check out WiccanSeeker's old post on niacinamide here at the shroomery,

or do a googlesearch on abram hoffer & his work...

(his recent book _vitamin B3 & shizophrenia_ has an appendix with a simplified form of HOD (the hoffer-osmond diagnostic) which can be used by patient & by physician to determine how far "off baseline" a person is... it is interesting to take the test "straight" & then again "tripping" & compare your scores, hehheh...)


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: gnrm23]
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What an interesting thread. I'll join in too.

It wasn't even a week ago that I was so depressed, I wanted to kill myself quite badly. I've had depression before, it lasted a couple years, dissapeared, then I felt it coming back. I felt horrible. A few nights ago I took four hits of acid and chilled with my best friend.

I am no longer depressed. I was in such an unstable mindset and I came out a much better person. I am finally happy and realise what makes me happy and I can try and make myself happier.

Just wanted to share with you all.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
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Good to hear you're feeling better, Tasty.

:mushroom2:

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Adden]
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thanks

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
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So we landed at defeating such 'never endings'.
But what's the real thing behind that all ? The psychoactive substances are not. They are triggers.
And are these states, taken for themselves alone on the 'tripper', really as unconfortable, that a society can't stand this 'person' anymore ?
Perhaps we should take this then to S&P ?

Happy tripping...in the shaddow-world ?!


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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The thought process of the person who cant stop tripping should be in s&p, not the fact that you are mentally ill, that belongs in support.

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Redo]
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when i was around six years old, my older brother told me about a guy who did acid and now thinks he's a peach and constantly scratches off his own skin, I thought that was cool and funny as shit and I told him I wanted to do acid, he told me that was wrong, i did'nt care, I truly was amazed at the thought of taking something that would completley blow my reality away.

even now, I only really take drugs to make the world more "weird", I mean I get alot more out of drugs (mind expansion, i'm a nicer and better person, etc, etc.), but all of that is more of a bonus, i'm just a weird fuck who likes the world to be alot more fucked up than it already is.

and I like hppd, i hear voices and shit all the time (may or may not be drug related), but to me it's all good, i never really cared for comformity or what anyone else thinks is sane, it's all good to me, the weirder the better.  :mushroom2:

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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I had a co-worker who apparently had been in a mental hospital for two years because he didn't come down (didn't want to come down?) from his LSD trip. He seems fine now, but he claims he was tripping for two straight years


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Strumpling]
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mmmmmmmmm LSD

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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I think you will find more than one, who is there, perhaps already for a long time, who is wearing out the effects of 'never coming' down, dude.

ANYTHING can cause someone to become mentally ill if they are vulnerable to it - a pet dog dies, a girlfriend leaves you, you drink too much beer one night, you have an argument with your mom. This doesn't mean your pet dog dying is going to cause mental illness in anyone who isn't vulnerable to it already.


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: skullfarmer1979]
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A relative of mine was seriously messed up for over 10 years from drug abuse. I'm not sure what all she had ingested, but shroomies grew wild where she lived. Ate 'em every day. I think she moved to some other weird shit, maybe RC's or something. Before all of this she had been relatively normal (whatever that is) but there is some generational history of depression & substance abuse in the family.

She was diagnosed schizophrenic, ended up in a mental hospital, and was subjected to electroshock "therapy" and horrible pharms like Thorazine. Finally got out from under all that and leads a fairly normal life today.

I personally witnessed her behavior over a period of months (after having been institutionalized) and she was definitely in another frame of reference. Voices in her head, delusions, thought she spoke a secret language, etc. Maybe it was the crap they fed her in the hospital...

People who have problems with depression and mental ilness needs to be very careful consuming drugs recreationally. It's just too risky, IMO.

I still don't think it was the shroomies. In all the reading I've done, there doesn't seem any evidence to support it. But then again, I love shroomies so maybe I'm biased... Still, this family history is always in the back of my mind.

For what it's worth,

S2b


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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Xlea321]
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Yes, that's why I posted this:
"But what's the real thing behind that all ? The psychoactive substances are not. They are triggers.
And are these states, taken for themselves alone on the 'tripper', really as unconfortable, that a society can't stand this 'person' anymore ?"

What makes those people so 'ill' ? Or could it be the 'modern' society, which is on one eye blind, who drives them into madness ?


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: never stop tripping????? [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
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don't forget that psychoactives, regardless of who you are and what's going on in your life can trigger an episode of depression. as mind expanding as psychadelics are, that expansion can also mess you up because i think some people aren't capable of accepting what they've encountered.

personally, i tried psychadelics right out of high school. i got a lot from it but then i had one intense trip and i was flipping out about college and whatnot. my own ignorance triggered a pretty bad next few months. as safe as lsd, mushrooms, especially mescaline are the safety lies in the mind of the user.


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