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Re: Libertarian party [Re: Xlea321]
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Still looking for the link PinochhiAl.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Libertarian party [Re: Xlea321]
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Chomsky, a libertarian socialist...

And "Libertarian Socialists" have nothing in common with the Libertarian movement in the US, nor with the US Libertarian Party. They are just another variant of Collectivist.

His basic argument is that true capitalism does not exist in reality.

Well, duh! As I and so many others have pointed out here on countless occasions, as yet there has been no Laissez-faire Capitalist society. Who is Chomsky's argument directed at?

According to him, capitalism in the United States is a fa?ade intentionally created by the power structure in order to subjugate the masses, in the interest of the rich and powerful.

This would presumably be the same "capitalism" that he says doesn't exist in reality.

pinky


p.s. -- luvdemshrooms, here's the link for that cut and paste:
http://econc10.bu.edu/economic_systems/theory/Famous/noam_chomsky_on_the_free_market.htm


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Re: Libertarian party [Re: Phred]
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Thanks but I knew where to find it. I just wanted to see if PinochhiAl would actually follow the rules or if the only time they matter to him is when they work for him.

Or to be more accurate.... show what most see for themselves already.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Libertarian party [Re: Phred]
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And "Libertarian Socialists" have nothing in common with the Libertarian movement in the US, nor with the US Libertarian Party

But left-wingers have an awful lot to do with libertarian thought around the world and for an awful lot longer since 1971 when the "US libertarian party" was founded. The idea that "Libertarian" thought refers only to the brand of capitalism you believe in is complete nonsense.

This would presumably be the same "capitalism" that he says doesn't exist in reality

No, read it again.


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Re: Libertarian party [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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just wanted to see if PinochhiAl would actually follow the rules

:lol:

luvdemlies, the "man" who resorts to hysterical flames like "you pathetic bastard" when he gets his ass kicked wants people to "follow the rules"?

And actually, it came from an email someone sent me not the link pink supplied. But don't let the truth stop you, after all it never has before.


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Re: Libertarian party [Re: Xlea321]
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First, you've made many claims of lies, yet you've never backed them up. Will you do so now?

Second, you've never kicked my ass except in your own mind.

Third, it wasn't a flame. It was an accurate representation of the facts.

Fourth, whether you follow the rules or not isn't up to me. I just find it funny that a whiner practices the same behavior he whines about.

Fifth, sure it came from an e-mail. Sure.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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