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Who invented sour mash?
    #2845661 - 07/01/04 02:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I always thought it was Dr. Crow who invented the sour mash process in 1835, but I was playing around on the Jim Beam website and it says:
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1795> Jacob Beam, farmer and grain-mill operator, sells his first barrel of "Old Jake Beam Sour Mash." Friends and family call it a "fine dram."



http://www.jimbeam.com/jb_web/v5/heritage/history.aspx

It says otherwise on the back of my bottle of Old Crow, and all the places I've seen on the net (for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey ) say that Dr. Crow invented it in 1835.

....  So was Old Crow or Jim Beam the first sour mash?  Thank you -- this is very important to me :wink:

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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: micro]
    #2846901 - 07/01/04 12:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I dont know... well didn't.... well... don't...

DAMNIT WILL I EVER KNOW?

But for the records i hope it was Jim B eam


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: micro]
    #2846991 - 07/01/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ahahhahaha, you drink Old Crow?  Are you a bum?


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: micro]
    #2847080 - 07/01/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've always heard it was Jim Beam.

I just asked my surrounding coworkers ,"Who invented sour mash?" and the unanimous response was Jim Beam.


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: debianlinux]
    #2847094 - 07/01/04 01:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think that jim bean is BS. Its like every beer company says they are the first in the nation. I dont know, I think its all hootinanay! Cuz my great great great grand pappy made it damn it.


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: debianlinux]
    #2847111 - 07/01/04 01:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.queenannewine.com/scotch.html

The Baptist preacher Elijah Craig is rumoured to be the inventor of bourbon. At any rate, he was an early distiller, and is sometimes credited with the invention of charred barrel aging.

http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/people/nieminen/whiskeymore.html

The Baptist preacher Elijah Craig is rumoured to be the inventor of bourbon. At any rate, he was an early distiller, and is sometimes credited with the invention of charred barrel aging.


This is the best page I found on the subject
http://www.adamsbevgroup.com/sw/1997/1097/1097hn.html

It doesn't sound like anyone knows, it's all folklore.


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: Adom]
    #2847165 - 07/01/04 01:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Ahahhahaha, you drink Old Crow? Are you a bum?




heeheeheeee....  Yeah, I guess -- sort of....  No, really -- I like it better than Beam and it's a lot cheaper -- $8.99 a liter.  I like Wild Turkey A LOT better that Old Crow, but have no desire to pay $21.99 for a 750mL

Thanks for the info -- I'm talking about sour mash, though -- not bourbon, itself.  On your last link, though (a lot of info -- thanks) it says at the bottom:

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Old Crow takes its name from Dr. James Crow, a Scottish doctor and chemist, who, while working at a Kentucky distillery in 1835, invented the sour mash method.




Now I'm even more confuzed than ever....  Maybe it's a typo on Jim Beam's website???  Maybe I'll email tham and find out....

Thanks for all the replies :wink:

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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: micro]
    #2847199 - 07/01/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Those sites claimed all USA bourbons are sour mash, that is why I posted them.. Oopps  :confused:


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: Adom]
    #2847321 - 07/01/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Those sites claimed all USA bourbons are sour mash, that is why I posted them.. Oopps




As of now, they are, but they haven't always been. The method is a cheap and effective way to prevent bacterial contamination, so it was pretty much adopted by everyone at some point in time.

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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: micro]
    #2847335 - 07/01/04 02:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

IC, IC..Interesting stuff tho, I never researched the topic before  :grin:


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Re: Who invented sour mash? [Re: Adom]
    #2847855 - 07/01/04 05:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Has any one drank MAkers MArk or Knob Creek before. I think those two are some of the best. Not sure if they are sour mash though.


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