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OfflineGoomeynoom
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Golden Caps
    #2809916 - 06/20/04 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Where i live the main mushroom I get is "golden caps" the other day my friend calls me up and says he has some bombin torqouise mushrooms from up north we tried them out it was so much better then regular golden caps... so what species is golden caps and why do they seem so far less potent then the northern ones?


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: Goomeynoom]
    #2810545 - 06/20/04 07:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Since you did not provide much info in your profile we cannot help provide you with any info because we have no idea what it is you are talking about.

Mushroom Names around the world for your information I have left out tghe Nahuatle and latin and aztec names.

mj


DISCUSSION

The most popular and sought after variety of the more than 2 dozen species of sacred mushrooms used in traditional healing and curing ceremonies in Oaxaca, M?xico is Psilocybe mexicana Heim. It is the preferred species among Mazatec shamans, curanderos, sabias, and healers (male and female). The Chinantecs prefer Psilocybe hoogshagenii (Rubel et Krejci 1976) and the Mixes prefer three different species (Psilocybe cordispora, Psilocybe hoogshagenii, and Psilocybe mexicana).

In villages in and around the ancient ruins of Palenque, Psilocybe cubensis is employed ceremoniously by some shamans and healers. There it is referred to locally as the "San Isidro" mushroom (named after the patron saint of agriculture). Because Psilocybe cubensis and/or P. subcubensis are associated with manure, many local shamanic healers (including the late Mar?a Sabina) do not use these latter two mentioned species and consider them to be inferior.

Entheogenic mushroom use also occurs outside of Mesoamerica. Published research and recreational users of psilocybian fungi have also provided history with many endearing epithets used to describe the many various species of local entheogenic mushrooms; including some ancient traditional terms. Some of the epithets listed below have only recently been known of during the last thirty to forty years while the Chinese and Japanese epithets were recorded more than two millennia ago. These include mushrooms known of in the following countries:





TABLE II:
Other World Names for Entheogenic Fungi Species


Fiji:
nui-ni-tevoro (devils parasol). (Wasson, 1959).

Japan:
maitake (dancing mushroom).
waraitake (laughing mushroom).
o-waraitake (big laughing mushroom).
odoritake (jumping mushroom).
shibiretake (numbing mushroom).
waraitake modoki (?) (Sanford, 1972; Wasson, 1959; Emboden, 1979).

China:
hsiao chun (laughter mushroom).
hsiao:ho (laughter) (Emboden, 1979; Wasson, 1959).

Spain:
sorgin zorrotz (witch's thread) (Gartz, 1995).

Sweeden (Psilocybe semilanceata) toppslätsskivling (Pers. Comm., 1-4-2004).

Germany:
narrenschwaner (foolish mushroom) (Wasson, 1959; Gartz, 1993).

Austria:
schw?mmerln gegessen (mad mushrooms) (Wasson, 1959).

Hungary:
bolond gomba (fool's mushroom) (Wasson, 1959).

Slovakia:
zalen? huby (mad mushroom).
szmer (szalec-foolish) (Wasson, 1959).

Africa:
Central Africa: (Banzu people): losulu.

Ivory Coast: (Mao people): tamu. (mushroom of knowledge).

Zaire: (Eala people): abanda (see Samorini, 1992, 1995; Ott, 1993).

Samoa:
faleaitu (ghost house or comedy).
pulouaitu (ghost hat).
ta-epoui (cow-dung) (Cox, 1981).

Bali:
jamur tahi sapi (magic mushrroms).
legelain (dizziness) (Thong et al., 1993; Krippner, Pers. Comm. to JWA,1993).

Thailand:
hed keequai (mushroom which appears after water buffalo deficates) (Allen and Merlin, 1992; Unsigned, 1990, 1991).
hed kee wua (mushroom which appears after cow shits. This term coined by the author in 1990.

New Guinea:
koull tourroum, koobltourrum (Guzm?n, 1983).

Honduras:
suntiama for Psilocybe cubensis. (Guzm?n, 1983).



In America, as elsewhere throughout the world, entheogenic mushrooms are used ludibly by certain members of society as a tool of recreation and by some as a means of religious enlightment. Among such users the entheogenic mushrooms are commonly referred to as "magic mushrooms" and/or "shrooms" (Ott, 1976, 1978, 1993; Singer, 1978).

Stafford (1982 [1992]) noted that the epithet "magic mushroom" was invented and first brought to the attention of the public by a Life magazine editor (see Wasson, 1957) who inserted this term against the wishes of R. Gordon Wasson, into the title of Wasson' Life Magazine feature contribution. Wasson (1980) had never appreciated the implication and insertion of the word "magic" and had indicated that he preferred the word "wondrous, and deplored the now popular and widespread use of the word "magic" and held reservations about its use.

Popular names given to magic mushrooms by those who consume them for ludible purposes are listed in table 3.






TABLE III:
ENGLISH LANGUAGE EPITHETS

Psilocybe cubensis (gold caps, golden tops, cubes, purple rings).

Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty caps, liberty bells, pixie caps, blue legs).

Psilocybe stuntzii (blue ringers, Washington blue veils, Stuntzii's blue legs).

Psilocybe pelliculosa (elves caps, elves stools, woodland caps).

Psilocybe cyanescens (red saucers).

Psilocybe baeocystis (blue bells, blue fuckers).

Panaeolus subbalteatus (red caps, subs).

Copelandia spp. (blue meanies, cone heads, gold caps, dimple tops, witch's tits), (Allen, 1982, 1997; Gartz, 1995; Lincoff and Mitchell, 1977; Stevens & Gee, 1977; Menzer, 1978; Stamets, 1978; Lincoff, 1983; Pollock, 1974; Ott, 1993; Weil, 1977, 1980).


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Excerpted from:

TEONANACATL:
Ancient and Contemporary Shamanic Mushroom Names
of
Mesoamerica
and
Other Regions of the World

by John W. ALlen

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mj


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: Goomeynoom]
    #2810826 - 06/20/04 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here in NZ Ps. subaeruginosa are commonly known as "gold tops" or "gold caps" :grin:

but then you're probably not from NZ. And if you were I'd slap you for saying they're not very potent


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: haunted]
    #2811094 - 06/20/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ps. Cyans are also "golden"


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: PsiloSteve]
    #2811097 - 06/20/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

...for that matter, so are most all psilocybes


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: Goomeynoom]
    #2812063 - 06/20/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, we call subaeruginosas "gold tops" here in melbourne.


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: Goomeynoom]
    #2812861 - 06/21/04 02:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

come to find out there called Panaeolus cyanescens (blue meanies, gold caps, gold tops) (Copelandia cyanescens), for the potency issue im prob gonna guess just a bad batch for the first couple times, i recently gave them anoether try at a lower dose and they produced much better results thanks for the help


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Re: Golden Caps [Re: mycil]
    #3974953 - 03/27/05 02:59 AM (12 years, 10 hours ago)

speak for yourself mate - we call them subs or copper tops


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