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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
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coir contaminating is the most dogshit contam vector to have to worry about


lol yes it is
it will make you wish your spawn was dirty


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Rusty2096]
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Rusty2096 said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
That was some odd looking Coir, it looks like dirt dug up from a mole.

What about using vermiculite?


That's very specific :lol:


Yeah, theres a place near my workplace with gophers or moles (not sure honestly), and they leave these little piles of dirt balls on the surface of the grass. It looked just like the coir in the OP. Its weird-looking.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Damn, that's a nightmare. If you are around Petcos or petsmarts, they usually have 3 bricks for $15. Straw bedding as well. Feed stores have small blocks of straw.


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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bakedbeings said:
poking around my local garden stores it looks like my options are

rice hulls
pine bark
coco chips

if anyone has tried any of these things please chime in


Coco chips and rice hulls don't hold a lot of moisture. Pine bark is very acidic and is likely the wrong move.

Chopped straw I'd suggest...

Paper cat litter maybe.


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Nichrome]
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Paper cat litter! Im remembering that one. Maybe ferret bedding.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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still on the hunt. for everyones information im in colombia, which is why the shopping situation is different

i found another brand of coir. they sell a 4.6 kg brick for like 40 usd. guess ill give it a shot


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Do a novelty grow out of a brick of coca

Edit: or coffee beans?


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Edited by Rusty2096 (10/22/22 09:27 PM)

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Rusty2096] * 1
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lol

i have a coca plant on my balcony and ive been dumping LC on it for fun, we'll see if anything volunteers

in other news the original 6 tubs with pin mold are looking...well...mold is mold. but it hasnt advanced much at all since i spotted it and the myc is fully colonized so i toss a thin casing layer on them. we'll see if anything pops up


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings] * 3
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ok...enough torture. i found a nice shiny american brand that ships to the US. its more than i would like to pay but pounds of fruit hang in the balance...i think we sometimes get spoiled by how cheap raw materials can get


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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we all definitely take it for granted from time to time. the local hardware stores here barely have coir bricks in anymore & sometimes the hydro shop here doesn’t have them either. i load up when i can but it just sucks how dependent you are on supply chain. there’s never any guarantee & when it’s gone it fuckin blows


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: hazyhorse]
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I know there are several coir producers in Columbia. Just keep looking. Likely you can get coir for cheaper than most people if you look.


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Nichrome]
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oh yes. tons of coir, extremely cheap. but it comes loose, moist, and full of bugs seeds and other shit. when i get a chance ill take a pic of the plant currently growing out of my shoebox :facepalm:


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Ok, I'm properly intrigued here.

Is part of what makes coir such a bulletproof medium the fact that it gets dried and bricked up, and then spends considerable time in some hot-ass shipping container?


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: B Traven]
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B Traven said:
Ok, I'm properly intrigued here.

Is part of what makes coir such a bulletproof medium the fact that it gets dried and bricked up, and then spends considerable time in some hot-ass shipping container?


Contamination resistant

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: B Traven]
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B Traven said:
Ok, I'm properly intrigued here.

Is part of what makes coir such a bulletproof medium the fact that it gets dried and bricked up, and then spends considerable time in some hot-ass shipping container?


Good question, because even the bricks are dirty AF. Lately I've been cleaning mine beforehand.


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: cozmyc] * 2
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Some coir is just nasty. People use that stuff as an absorbent material for chemical spills and shit like that. Why not resell it to the masses. It's cheaper than disposing of it as toxic waste.

Win win.

Mercury tests are cheap and easy to use. Cadmium, cesium, and arsenic are not so easy to test for.


I wouldn't grow food from bulk unbranded coir for people who I care about.


I've been to a handful of third world coir producing countries. The bottom line in places like that is a lot lower than most could fathom. :hangover:

Bad coir is a real thing. Consider yourself lucky if you have always been successful with simple teks, hot tap, or never had bad coir.



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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: cozmyc] * 1
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there are a lot of questions i cant answer, but my intuition is that when its dried and compressed it prevents any kind of ecosystem from developing. when its stored loose and moist little creatures tend to explore it, eat it, shit in it, die in it, etcetera. after enough time it becomes compost

the first batch of local coir i bought was loose but dry, came in one big sack. i stored it in a big aluminum can on my covered patio. the first several tubs i made were great. after a while i started noticing condensation on the lid, so i guess either there was some moisture in the batch that i hadnt perceived or it sucked some water out of the air. as i started to scoop lower and lower the coir looked darker and darker, and after a while i started loosing some tubs, then half my tubs, then all my tubs. it also began happening late in colonization, then halfway through, and after a while right after spawning

this last batch of coir came in smaller plastic bags. they were already a bit dark when i opened them (and i found stones, fuckers). i noticed some pin mold a week or so after spawning, in every tub, and only popping up in areas with less myc showing. the mold has not grown, and is not showing through the verm casing i layer down, so i still have some hope of getting a fruit or two out of these latest tubs. we shall see


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings] * 1
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Y'all know what would fix all this? All-in-one grows. Bottles or bags,your choice. Just sterilize that bitch


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: SirPsycho]
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Can't go wrong with this:

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: SirPsycho]
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have you grown all in one bottles before psycho? i’ve been curious to try for gourmets but they seem like a pain in the ass if you’re trying to grow bulk actives


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