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dirty coir :( * 2
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so i bought a huge fucking sack of loose coir and ive since noticed an uptick in my contam rates. i started pasteurizing the coir, same thing, started boiling it, same thing. i finally started wondering if it was my spawn the whole time so i boiled some coir for like an hour and left it alone in a shoebox. sure enough...



not sure what this means or what i can do about it


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Aah fuck, best to just dump that in the garden or use it for greens.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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If you dont want to throw it away and have the time, You can pressure cook contaminated coir and reuse them

Edit: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27768853/fpart/1/vc/1

Edited by SlugWorthx1 (08/30/22 01:36 PM)

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: SlugWorthx1] * 1
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Too much effort and energy for what you're doing in my opinion.
The garden will appreciate it more than recycling coir just for our psychedelic needs.

Go buy some new, clean coir.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: DERRAYLD]
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I agree with you, id just toss it. Its just an option though as the OP has already put in hours attemping to clean it.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: SlugWorthx1]
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Sure but I think he went to the effort to prove it was the coir not his spawn.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: DERRAYLD]
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the issue is that where i live they dont sell those nice clean blocks of coir. i could ship them in but the expense would be stoopid. i can only easily source the same kind of coir i have now, and im getting the impression that its gonna be a roll of the dice every time. im looking back over my past few years of bulk growing and its totally possible my contam rate was all down to the coir

im going to research and brainstorm more but as much as i hate to say it PCing this stuff might not be the worst idea if it guarantees a clean sub. then again how many hours of propane equal the cost of importing clean coir? im gonna have to bumble through some math i guess


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings] * 1
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In that case you should definitely pc your coir if the cost isn't worth it to obtain clean coir.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: DERRAYLD]
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i took some time to shop around and to my surprise the same company i buy grain from sells packaged coir for under $3USD a kilo. idk if this is a "good" deal but its the best ive found so far. im going to buy one kilo and give it the cold water test

the brand is Forza if anyone knows it


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Bakedbeings said:
i took some time to shop around and to my surprise the same company i buy grain from sells packaged coir for under $3USD a kilo. idk if this is a "good" deal but its the best ive found so far. im going to buy one kilo and give it the cold water test

the brand is Forza if anyone knows it


To put that in perspective, it costs $3-5 to buy 650g bricks at a store. Bulk pricing runs about $20 for 5kg.

I'd be happy with that pricing.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: cooleko]
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oh sweet. yeah when i shopped around previously i was finding bricks priced much much higher than 5 usd, im glad i checked again. of course it wont matter if this brand is dirty too but i will test it and post results


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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an unfortunate bump

i tracked down a better looking coir option as previously discussed. i had a bunch of spawn ready to go, so i said fuck it and make a bunch of shoeboxes

big mistake. all of them are showing pin mold

im bummed. running coir-only tests to confirm it was the problem. cold prepped and heat treated

anyway, heres the question: i have 22 quarts of spawn coming around the corner and i refuse to let them touch coir until im sure its ok. ive never used anything but coir as sub, whats the best plan B?


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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CHILL those quarts.
then sort out your sub issues.

:cheers:

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Jaksavage]
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nah baby nothin stops this train :rockon: they are gettin frooty

in fact if anyone has weird requests put them here. its been a while since ive seen just grain cased with verm

sorta kidding, sorta not


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings] * 1
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Request: use carrots. If it's that time of the year where you live also, they sell 50 pounds bags of grade b carrots (they are for baiting deers) for $5.

Shred and use em as sub - I'm pretty sure a carrot is kinda "field cap" right out of the box
:inlove3:


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Jaksavage]
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I would use the coir for doing some pf cakes or some Muda bottles.

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Rusty2096]
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fungusul said:
I would use the coir for doing some pf cakes or some Muda bottles.


yeah thats my backup if everything else fails...just toss my quarts and buy bottles, be a bottle guy. really hope it doesnt come to that

Rusty2096 said:
Request: use carrots. If it's that time of the year where you live also, they sell 50 pounds bags of grade b carrots (they are for baiting deers) for $5.

Shred and use em as sub - I'm pretty sure a carrot is kinda "field cap" right out of the box
:inlove3:


lol nah man ill let you plant your flag in the carrot tek. im definitely not in a deer baiting kind of place


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Fuck no it's too much trouble :lol:. I PM'd SirPsycho - maybe he'll do it if we're lucky


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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: bakedbeings]
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Well then you fall into the 'what substrate won't produce fruit' catagory.

Got any books or tampons? cigarete butts? Nut hulls?
Old t shirts?

Good luck.

:mushroomgrow:

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Re: dirty coir :( [Re: Jaksavage]
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poking around my local garden stores it looks like my options are

rice hulls
pine bark
coco chips

if anyone has tried any of these things please chime in


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