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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: prettyMushy] * 2
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prettyMushy said:
Myocarditaand pericarditis are both real side effect of the vaccine that are life threatening.


Do you think Covid doesn't cause this more often? If you choose to not get vaccinated, you're choosing to put yourself at a higher risk for pericarditis and essentially every other heart condition. There's one study saying the second moderna shot gives you a slightly higher chance of myocarditis than the virus if you're under 40, but there are far more saying the opposite. The risk is extremely minimal from both the vaccine and the virus, and almost everyone recovers quickly from it anyway


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There have been dozens of soccer players that have just collapsed from heart problems this year many times days after vaccination.



Do you think this is actually true? It's not...


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Micro clots in the body are real and just because they arent reported or just because they cant be linked directly to the vaccine doesnt mean its not the cause.


The rate of hospitalizations from vaccine-suspected clots are something like 70 per 10 million, while serious blood clots in Covid patients are 12,500+ per 10 million. I've worked with close to 50 people with strokes, amputations, and various other health issues due to Covid clots. I've seen zero Covid vaccine victims, other than 2 people almost a year ago who slipped when they were feverish at night after their shot.


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People have died days after the vaccine and people automatically say it has nothing to do with the vaccine.



Statistically hundreds of thousands of people will die within days/weeks of getting the vaccine, hundreds of millions of people got vaccinated in a short time span... the Covid vaccines don't suddenly stop the clock on all human disease and aging.

No one denies that people have died from Covid vaccines, if you give hundreds of millions of people an apple a few thousand will die from it. There's convincing evidence that nearly anyone who gets severe side effects from the vaccine would have experienced the same or worse from the virus, they're almost all caused by a dysregulated immune response to the Covid spike protein.


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Also when will we have enough doses. When we take our daily covid shots because its causing antibody dependency?


Antibody dependency is not a thing. If you're thinking of antibody dependent enhancement, that doesn't happen with Covid vaccines.


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If you are under 40 you have a survival rate of around 99.95% or higher.



95-99% of polio cases are asymptomatic. Hardly anyone dies. Would you like to attempt a misinformation filled rant about the polio vaccine next?


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If you think the vaccine makes you safe.. Good for you.. Why do i need it then since you are safe? If it doesnt make you safe.. Again.. Why do i need it if it saves noone?


Because this is a society, and societies need to take public health measures to keep society functioning properly. In a country of hundreds of millions, every tiny percentage point indicates a whole lot of lives, and the vaccines prevent both severe illness and transmission by far more than tiny percentage points.


All of your points are boomer facebook misinformation. I just can't wrap my head around how the people who know the least about these things keep jumping on their dunning kruger soap box to show everyone else how little they know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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You all should listen to the most recent Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Robert Malone MD. He invented the technology used in the COVID mnra vaccines, as well as been working on all major vaccines since the AIDS pandemic. He goes into detail about the financial incentive to label people as covid deaths even when not necessarily covid deaths. Very interesting. He also talks about how getting covid is a lot better for covid antibodies than getting the vaccine. He also talks about how if you got covid already and then get the vaccine, your chances of getting a negative side effect from the vaccine is much higher than if you've never gotten covid and then get the vaccine. And this guy has credentials. He's probably one of the most credible people in the world to speak on the topic.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 1
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longbus said:
He goes into detail about the financial incentive to label people as covid deaths even when not necessarily covid deaths.


That's been debunked for over a year and a half now.


longbus said:
He also talks about how if you got covid already and then get the vaccine, your chances of getting a negative side effect from the vaccine is much higher than if you've never gotten covid and then get the vaccine.


That may be true. It'll be the same thing the next time your body gets Covid, or if you're vaccinated and get your second dose/booster... previous exposure will generate a more robust immune response. The immune system is inflammation, for some susceptible people a larger inflammatory immune response will cause issues.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers] * 2
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feevers said:
longbus said:
He goes into detail about the financial incentive to label people as covid deaths even when not necessarily covid deaths.


That's been debunked for over a year and a half now.





I dunno man, he's a medical doctor with extensive credentials. Listen to the podcast. Why would he lie about that? He's literally a doctor who is one of the people who gets paid to put people on ventilators.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 1
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longbus said:
feevers said:
longbus said:
He goes into detail about the financial incentive to label people as covid deaths even when not necessarily covid deaths.


That's been debunked for over a year and a half now.





I dunno man, he's a medical doctor with extensive credentials. Listen to the podcast. Why would he lie about that? He's literally a doctor who is one of the people who gets paid to put people on ventilators.


His Linkedin title is CEO, Analyst, and Consultant, going through his job history there it looks like he hasn't treated a patient in 20 years.

Just because someone was part of developing one type of Covid vaccine technology doesn't make their voice outweigh virtually all of the experts in the field who are saying the opposite. It does mean he can make many millions of dollars going on podcast tours saying things that cater to the anti-vax demographic though.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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He has the vax


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 1
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r3volution.gurl said:
hummingbird said:
Science is for sale to the highest bidder these days.

Also, I know of two people who's doctor told them not to get the shot because they are immunocompromised. One has lupus, and the other one I'm not sure exactly what's going on. Should we force them to get it against their doctor's recommendation? I have a feeling the "experts" on here are going to have some negative things to say about those doctors for some reason and say yes we should...


Yup.

Our family doctor said she can "try it" very hesitantly and really doesn't know. Earlier this year, I gave her my opinion which was, it's your decision. I explained what Mr. Guesswork's argument is to her. I also explained the shot could cause life threatening complications she's probably susceptible to. When doctors are confused themselves, it's best the person makes their own choice. Real fkn simple.

Whatever her decision, I'll always be there for her as it would reflect who I am if that did change anything. I'm actually here now because she is really ill in bed. I am tending to her. Could be covid, but who knows because not a single medical place/pharmacy around anywhere in the country sells take home rapid tests. What a shit show of resources and truly laughable leadership.


If she’s got covid she should be getting monoclonals. That’s what they are for- treating immunocompromised patients.

What I don’t get is why she is not vaccinated when her doctor told her she should be.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
Why would someone not get the vaccine simply because they are immunocompromised? Those are the people who need it more than anyone.


'Simply' because they are immunocompromised? You realize some people are so ill on a daily basis, they can't just be given whatever drugs or shots even if it will help them for a possible scenario that might not even occur. There are different levels of severity with the immunocompromised and age is a huge factor in that as well.

For fuck sakes, let it go dude. People have a right to decide for themselves. The ego of thinking you know what's best for other people is honestly a huge issue and why people don't give a shit about getting the covid shots.

Her doctor didn't tell her to take the shots. He said he doesn't know so she can try it if she wants. That's not the same fucking thing so please don't talk shit especially about people's personal business. It's not hard to get if you weren't so cognitively biased.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 2
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Her doctor, who I assume went to medical school and has years or decades of experience told your mother to get vaccinated. Why didn’t she do it?

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That's not the same fucking thing so please don't talk shit especially about people's personal business. It


You brought it up. If you don’t want people talking about your personal business, then don’t post about your personal business.


Edited by koods (12/31/21 06:27 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
Her doctor, who I assume went to medical school and has years or decades of experience told your mother to get vaccinated. Why didn’t she do it?

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That's not the same fucking thing so please don't talk shit especially about people's personal business. It


You brought it up. If you don’t want people talking about your personal business, then don’t post about your personal business.




Oh snap, you were there when he spoke to her about it multiple times?

If he told her she should get the covid shots I would have said that. He was honest with with my mother and said I DONT KNOW if you will be ok after the shots, you can TRY IT, IF YOU WANT. Are you stunted cognitively?

I have no problem with you accurately talking about it, but you're making claims that are false and it's purely disrespectful.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you openly want to practice what the nazi's did, to unvaccinated people.
:whatsthisohfuckyou:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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:highfive:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 1
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f he told her she should get the covid shots I would have said that. He was honest with with my mother and said I DONT KNOW if you will be ok after the shots, you can TRY IT, IF YOU WANT. Are you stunted cognitively?


He did say it. His medical advice was she should “try it.”  Why didn’t she “try it?


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 4
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longbus said:
:highfive:


:fistbump: 

koods said:
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f he told her she should get the covid shots I would have said that. He was honest with with my mother and said I DONT KNOW if you will be ok after the shots, you can TRY IT, IF YOU WANT. Are you stunted cognitively?


He did say it. His medical advice was she should “try it.”  Why didn’t she “try it?


Again dude? Just stop. She doesn't want to? Are you ok in the head? Her doctor was completely fine with her choice because he DOESN'T KNOW etc etc. You're trying to find an argument that isn't there because you're that insane in controlling people's lives and personal choices. You don't give a SHIT about my mom so shut the fuck up already. It's becoming really annoying.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 3
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Sounds like your mom's doctor is afraid to give actual advice, and is just covering his ass while trying to get your mom to get vaccinated without setting himself up for liability if something were to happen to her afterwards regardless of whether it was or was not related to the vaccine.

This is especially likeyl if your mom, or your family has resources that he feels could lead to a litigious outcome.

I think that's a possibility that warrants exploration, at least.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
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Kids, stop calling each other nazis, it's really embarrassing to watch.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Lynnch] * 3
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"Herr Koodler" is hilarious though

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: larry.fisherman]
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.... I'll allow it :gethigh:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
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Again.. Why do i need it if it saves noone?



It does though

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 3
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Baby_Hitler said:
Sounds like your mom's doctor is afraid to give actual advice, and is just covering his ass while trying to get your mom to get vaccinated without setting himself up for liability if something were to happen to her afterwards regardless of whether it was or was not related to the vaccine.

This is especially likeyl if your mom, or your family has resources that he feels could lead to a litigious outcome.

I think that's a possibility that warrants exploration, at least.


He did give her advice. He said she should take the vaccine. Ignore the gaslighting going on here where the revolution chick is trying to pretend that what the doctor said wasn’t his advice that she should get the shot. 

What I’m curious about is why people are ignoring the advice they get from their doctors.

It sounds like this mom decided to take advice from her daughter who has a medical degree from Tik ToK University, instead of a real doctor and it has the potential now in ending in real tragedy.

Edited by koods (12/31/21 09:18 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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You wanna wrestle, koods? It might get all that stress out with me getting you in some sort of crazy ass arm bar and you might get a good hit in too(with safety gear of course) so it's a win win :awehigh:


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