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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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If we let the Taliban take over the pandemic, we’d be out of it in days


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Enkidu said:
No I'm suggesting a lot of you aren't as perfect and morally righteous or superior as you make yourself out to be



What if we are, though? I told my anti-vaxx friend that I was disappointed in him, and that he was better than that. Like the fucking retard he is, he took it the wrong way and said "Yeah, I AM better than what you're making me out to be!"

I was like :nonono: "you fucking idiot, you don't get to just SAY you're a good person. You have to ACTUALLY ACT like a good person."



We aren't friends anymore.


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Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper] * 2
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That's crazy it's causing such a divide

I don't think me not taking the vax means I'm anti vax

I'm not going around in huge rallies protesting vaccines even if I do agree it shouldn't be mandates

Even people who are for the vax agree with that

If this all would have been handles different I don't think I'd be as suspicious and apprehensive, and if there wasn't loads of conflicting data (or misinformation as you may call it) I again wouldn't be as cautious and apprehensive

I don't think that thinking critically, asking questions, and deviating from the social conformity is necessarily a bad thing

Our gov, politicians, doctors and pharmaceutical industries, or human history in general, doesn't have a very trustworthy track record


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
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You have to follow through with the thinking for it to count as critical thought, and you're not doing that when you get stuck in indecision and stop thinking. Don't try to pat yourself on the back for what you're doing. You're making excuses for not being able to think this through and using you own lack of understanding to justify inaction when you've failed to make serious attempts to understand this choice for the past year. You've had lots of time and you've squandered it. Now you have to act without the benefit of understanding, and you're overwhelmed by fear and uncertainty, so you're making a decision that hurts everybody and telling yourself you don't have a choice. You are a perfect example of why we need mandates.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
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Enkidu said:
I don't think me not taking the vax means I'm anti vax




You were basically threatening to kill people over it. If that's not anti vax, I don't know what it is..:shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: 1234go]
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No I was threatening that I would defend my freedom if someone tried to force me to do something

I am entitled to be able to look at the data and make my own informed decision on what I inject into my body

If I was sick with covid or infecting others then maybe it would be a little different

But I'm not


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 3
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Enkidu said:
That's crazy it's causing such a divide

I don't think me not taking the vax means I'm anti vax

I'm not going around in huge rallies protesting vaccines even if I do agree it shouldn't be mandates

Even people who are for the vax agree with that

If this all would have been handles different I don't think I'd be as suspicious and apprehensive, and if there wasn't loads of conflicting data (or misinformation as you may call it) I again wouldn't be as cautious and apprehensive

I don't think that thinking critically, asking questions, and deviating from the social conformity is necessarily a bad thing

Our gov, politicians, doctors and pharmaceutical industries, or human history in general, doesn't have a very trustworthy track record


Nah dude you're an antivaxxer

Look at your ratings you got ringing endorsement from budmanman and longbus. If they gave me +5s I would seriously reconsider what I'm posting to the boards :rofl:

You don't think you're a nutter, but ya are


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: bodhisatta]
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Enkidu said:
Well if you want one more death then try and take my freedom and we can find out who the little guy is



So, am I misunderstanding this statement? Would you, or would you not kill someone over the vaccine?



Enkidu said:
I am entitled to be able to look at the data and make my own informed decision on what I inject into my body




How much longer do you need to make an informed decision?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: 1234go]
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Has nothing to do with the vaccine, has to do with freedom

Making decisions for someone else because you are smarter and know better is socialism.

It hasn't worked out well in the past

That's for me to decide. And if my decision is to not get the vax, that's my decision and choice to make. Not yours.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
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That could very well be where are at at right now.

Lots of people seem to be all for socialism

*Especially young people who are naive to our history and things going on in other parts of the world. Not that I'm not, I am full of ignorance in many ways to many facets of life.

In college before I really understood some things I understand we had a few professors who promoted the idea that people are not smart enough to govern themselves. The opposite of freedom.

And there was a professor (who left China because the way things were going) who said that his time spent in China wasn't so bad and communism wasn't as bad as we make it out to be.

I myself am for freedom first and foremost and I do have some suspicions on things going on and our willingness to accept and go along with it.

Not everyone, there are groups including a union for the NYPD that said they would fight against mandatory vaccination

And I won't forgo freedom and rights for the "greater good of society" which seems like the forefront of socialism

America is definitely struggling in many ways.

And the future is looking bleak.

Edited by Enkidu (08/29/21 10:31 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 2
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Enkidu said:
No I was threatening that I would defend my freedom if someone tried to force me to do something

I am entitled to be able to look at the data and make my own informed decision on what I inject into my body

If I was sick with covid or infecting others then maybe it would be a little different

But I'm not


Your words and actions show that you aren't capable of taking even simple actions to defend your freedom, and you won't become informed so you'll never be able to make an informed decision. You're selfish, unreasonable, a danger to yourself, and  a threat to public welfare. We all are forced to get together and make draconian laws because of people like you. You're a threat to everybody's freedom and your words here and actions in society are indefensible. The real issue here though is safety, and I hope you don't end up getting your children hurt or killed because you won't take basic precautions to protect them. That will be hard for you to live with, and if it does happen, then I'll have sympathy for them but not you. I'd try to reason with you more patiently if you were just threatening your own safety, but other people depend on you, and you're fucking up by living out this nonsense. Stop being a defensive idiot, do the right thing, and then worry about understanding why it was right. That way you won't have to make up bullshit to convince yourself you did your best when you're living with regret.


On a science, You have no idea if you have covid or not, so that argument is wrong. look up asymptomatic infection and spread if you aren't familiar with the idea.

And if you come back in here and ask questions after getting vaccinated, then people are likely to be more patient with your struggles.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
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So you're going to be indignant because you perceived the vaccination as a threat to your freedom?

You do have the freedom to choose you're just choosing to be antisocial and uncompassionate.

How about that building code socialism. They made this decision where I could start a bar, restaurant, residence

All that travel socialism. They think they're so smart and right telling me to follow traffic laws.

All that wearing pants and shoes in restaurant socialism.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Enkidu said:
No I was threatening that I would defend my freedom if someone tried to force me to do something

I am entitled to be able to look at the data and make my own informed decision on what I inject into my body

If I was sick with covid or infecting others then maybe it would be a little different

But I'm not


Your words and actions show that you aren't capable of taking even simple actions to defend your freedom, and you won't become informed so you'll never be able to make an informed decision. You're selfish, unreasonable, a danger to yourself, and  a threat to public welfare. We all are forced to get together and make draconian laws because of people like you. You're a threat to everybody's freedom and your words here and actions in society are indefensible. The real issue here though is safety, and I hope you don't end up getting your children hurt or killed because you won't take basic precautions to protect them. That will be hard for you to live with, and if it does happen, then I'll have sympathy for them but not you. I'd try to reason with you more patiently if you were just threatening your own safety, but other people depend on you, and you're fucking up by living out this nonsense. Stop being a defensive idiot, do the right thing, and then worry about understanding why it was right. That way you won't have to make up bullshit to convince yourself you did your best when you're living with regret.


On a science, You have no idea if you have covid or not, so that argument is wrong. look up asymptomatic infection and spread if you aren't familiar with the idea.

And if you come back in here and ask questions after getting vaccinated, then people are likely to be more patient with your struggles.


Agreed. If you look at history. The biggest threat to freedom has consistently been ignorance.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Enkidu said:
Has nothing to do with the vaccine, has to do with freedom

Making decisions for someone else because you are smarter and know better is socialism.

It hasn't worked out well in the past

That's for me to decide. And if my decision is to not get the vax, that's my decision and choice to make. Not yours.


You do know that getting vaxxed is also exercising your freedom. If you’re not doing something because someone wants you to do it, then you’re letting them make your decisions.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: bodhisatta]
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Am I not trying to become more informed ?

My children don't meet the age requirement for the vax.

They're not even reccomended to get the vax or wear masks. They're both less than 2 years. I'll ignore the rest of the comment about how horrible I am because obviously it's being made from a place of ignorance about who I am or what I do with a lot of assumptions being made about the effect of my choices that aren't true


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Enkidu said:
Has nothing to do with the vaccine, has to do with freedom

Making decisions for someone else because you are smarter and know better is socialism.

It hasn't worked out well in the past

That's for me to decide. And if my decision is to not get the vax, that's my decision and choice to make. Not yours.


You do know that getting vaxxed is also exercising your freedom. If you’re not doing something because someone wants you to do it, then you’re letting them make your decisions.


Won't argue that.

I haven't gotten a vax because like I said, I am suspicious and cautious


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Enkidu said:
Has nothing to do with the vaccine, has to do with freedom

That's for me to decide. And if my decision is to not get the vax, that's my decision and choice to make. Not yours.



So, it is about the "vax", and literally means you're "anti-vax" because you've decided not to get it. :shrug:


You ain't all there, man...

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: 1234go] * 1
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Yeah if you say so but you're the one failing to understand or grasp what I'm saying

That's fine, it's not really a big deal to me


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
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Enkidu said:
koods said:
Enkidu said:
Has nothing to do with the vaccine, has to do with freedom

Making decisions for someone else because you are smarter and know better is socialism.

It hasn't worked out well in the past

That's for me to decide. And if my decision is to not get the vax, that's my decision and choice to make. Not yours.


You do know that getting vaxxed is also exercising your freedom. If you’re not doing something because someone wants you to do it, then you’re letting them make your decisions.


Won't argue that.

I haven't gotten a vax because like I said, I am suspicious and cautious


Doesn't seem like it.

The virus exists. It's out there. And you have a high chance of catching it eventually, and it's actually killing people.

The vaccine exists. It's got a infinitesimally small chance of harming you in any considerable way(more than headache or soreness), and even smaller chance of killing you. There's no long term research but there's none on covid either. You will catch covid eventually and have even more spike protein in your body with the same unknown long term side effects.

The idea of long term side effects is already kind of moot. Understand vaccines don't stay in your body long term anyway. They're not a drug. So fear and concerns about that should be lowest priority if you have any logical reasoning skills at all.

Unless you literally plan on never catching covid if you're suspicious and cautious you will logically take a small fraction of the genetic code of the virus rather than the whole genetic code of the virus.
Rather be shot by a .22 in the arm or a shotgun shell to the chest?

You've got to explain the suspicion and caution in logical terms to satisfy any of us.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Enkidu said:
Yeah if you say so but you're the one failing to understand or grasp what I'm saying




What you're saying is...

"I'm not anti-vax, I'm a free man, My freedom is to not get vaccinated, I will kill anyone who tries to take that freedom"


You can disguise that however you want, but it is what it is. :shrug:

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