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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 4
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Enkidu said:
60% of the population is currently vaxed, let's kill the other 40. Fuck em. Stupid fucks. They don't deserve life. They're the reason we are in this mess.


You finally get it.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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I always knew he was swine

Do these people not understand the reason these things say “for veterinary use only” is because they are not regulated to the same standard as human drugs and devices


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/28/21 10:02 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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You guys have an opinion on how the dep. Of health counts covid deaths?

Maybe this was already covered or discussed. I can link the video if you want.

"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.

That's a little confusing / suspicious to me


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Deaths with covid are different from deaths from COVID. All deaths where COVID is present are obviously recorded as such for epidemiological data keeping, but if it's not a suspected cause of death they don't get added to the COVID death count.

As has been said probably 100x between the 3 COVID sticky threads on here, every expert in the field agress that deaths are vastly undercounted, excess mortality rates make it blatantly obvious.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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Oh alright thanks, I saw the video where she said that and it didn't really make sense

Wait still a little confused. So when she says counted as covid death you're saying that is different from covid death count ....?


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Edited by Enkidu (08/28/21 10:51 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Just a copy/paste of a previous post I made that goes into more detail:



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There's a Part I and Part II on a death certificate. Part I is for direct causes of death, part II are underlying diseases that may or may not have contributed to the death. So in someone dying from a heart attack who also had diabetes, diabetes goes in part II. CDC advised that COVID goes under part II if someone tests positive but it is not suspected to be the cause of death, this is done for epidemiological reasons to measure trends during the pandemic, such as if all of a sudden there were a lot of people dying from aneurysms who also had COVID then that link could be investigated. The actual death count is based upon cases where it was a death "from COVID", not a death "with COVID".

Example of a death certificate: http://dhss.alaska.gov/dph/Epi/id/PublishingImages/COVID-19/deathcertificates.png


Even if the "died in a car crash with COVID" example was how deaths were coded, which it is not, lets say the average age of someone dying with COVID is 65. That person has been alive for 23,725 days. You test positive for COVID for 14 days to be liberal. How many people out there are dying during the exact 14 days (out of 23,725) that they're infected with a deadly virus, but their death has nothing to do with the deadly virus? If you took statistics it shouldn't be hard to understand that number would be exponentially lower than anything statistically significant.

Even if it was somehow a huge conspiracy with millions of healthcare workers involved and that was happening in 10% of all COVID deaths, that would basically mean there had been ~540,000 deaths instead of 600,000. That's a whole lot of work and effort and conspiracy and corruption and coverups and careers on the line for something that essentially makes no difference.

Yet everyone actually informed on the topic agrees the deaths have been greatly undercounted, and excess deaths are unexplainably through the roof




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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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Ok so she probably could have explained or worded that in a way that doesn't make it sound so suspicious, appreciate you sharing that


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Excess deaths is probably the best way to judge actual covid deaths since there is no other significant variable that can account for these excess deaths and it isn’t subject to varying rules for covid reporting. For the most part excess deaths in the states match their covid deaths pretty well, in other states there are significantly more excess deaths than covid deaths and this certainly represents under reporting of covid deaths.

One of the main gaps in the covid data is that often times when someone dies at home without ever getting medical attention is they don’t get any kind of diagnosis or investigation of their death. The death certificate says natural causes. Very rarely do these people have an autopsy.

There is no doubt some states are undercounting their deaths.

Some are doing all they can to hide them.

Florida no longer reports how many deaths are reported each day. Instead they revise data for past days with deaths that occurred on that day only. If you look at the current day and the previous day you see that the state is only reporting a dozen or so deaths. Because of this backfilling of data, Florida appears to have the lowest rate of new deaths in the country, when it likely actually has the highest (I say likely because we can’t know for certain with they way they report). Today Florida reported 11 deaths. In two weeks if you go back and look at today’s data that number will be well over 200.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
One of the articles describes using known mildly bitter substances. People who can’t detect any bitterness in coffee or stevia are nontasters, if you don’t like coffee because it’s too bitter you are likely a supertaster. If you find them slightly bitter you are heterozygous. 25% of the population have no protective alleles. 25% have two copies (supertasters) and 50% have one protective allele.

Nontasters are about 16x more likely to be hospitalized than supertasters

23andme tests for your T2R38 genotype.
If you have used their service you can find out if you are a supertaster here: https://blog.23andme.com/health-traits/tasty-genetics/

I have a kit I haven’t submitted but my mom did and she looked it up and she is a supertaster which means I cannot be a nontaster. I don’t think I’m a supertaster tho. My mom doesn’t like coffee and cannot stand stevia.



I like coffee if it has a bunch of cream and sugar in it, and Stevia does taste bitter to me, so I'm not a non-taster.

So that's good.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The two most predictive factors for poor covid outcomes are being unvaccinated and having a nontaster phenotype in the T2R38 gene.

The first one is completely determined by choice and the second one is completely determined by genetics.

Association Between Bitter Taste Receptor Phenotype and Clinical Outcomes Among Patients With COVID-19

This data is so amazing it should be part of the public health narrative.

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A total of 47 of 55 patients (85.5%) with COVID-19 who required inpatient admission were nontasters.




After reading that paper, I'm not sure that the covid didn't just affect their sense of taste. The didn't seem to base findings on a genetic test. They used a taste test, and if they had bad covid, they also couldn't taste bitterness. Not sure how they came to the conclusion that being able to taste bitter means more resistance to covid.


Edit: Nevermind. I didn't read this part:

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Participants with evidence of active infection with SARS-CoV-2 confirmed via positive PCR test result at study commencement were excluded. Participants with evidence of prior infection with SARS-CoV-2 via a positive IgM and/or IgG result at study commencement were excluded. Participants were excluded from evaluation if they had positive results on the control strip.



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Edited by Baby_Hitler (08/29/21 01:02 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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This gene has long been known to affect innate immune response, but it also affects taste receptors. The protein encoded by the gene does one thing in the immune system and another thing in taste receptors.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Koods murders another antivaxxer with his mean thoughts.

Outspoken anti-vax radio host Marc Bernier died after three-week battle with COVID-19


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Koods murders another antivaxxer with his mean thoughts.

Outspoken anti-vax radio host Marc Bernier died after three-week battle with COVID-19



Maybe YOU should be wearing the tinfoil hat to protect THEM.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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Its just a suggestion, not a mandate.

I think shaming people increases the divide and only will get them more stuck in their ways to not do the responsible rational thing, because then their ego's stuggle vs Koods joins in on their failure to put two and two together.

I find it very frustrating too.

If the vaccine was malathion, cropdust the cities for all i care. Their freedom stops at infecting my aunt (who died of covid)





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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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If they aren’t going to get vaccinated then they should do us a favor and get infected as soon as possible. The pandemic isn’t over until we get 90%+ seropositivity. They’re going to get infected eventually so let’s just get it over with. The hospitals cant get much fuller so it’s not like we will be stressing the system that much more. They should stick by their decision and stay home. Probably better for stressed out hcw to just plow through for two more month than have the situation now drag on and on.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
Its just a suggestion, not a mandate.

I think shaming people increases the divide and only will get them more stuck in their ways to not do the responsible rational thing, because then their ego's stuggle vs Koods joins in on their failure to put two and two together.

I find it very frustrating too.

If the vaccine was malathion, cropdust the cities for all i care. Their freedom stops at infecting my aunt (who died of covid)




Sorry about your aunt.

I find so incredibly difficult to treat these people with respect. They spent the last year and a half mocking everyone who wore masks or who distanced or got vaxxed. I don't even think its possible anymore to reason with them or convince them. They dug in and for many I don't think their pride will let them admit they were wrong. Every jursidiction I read about is the same thing, hospitals full of unvaxxed. I don't see how there is any way out of this without a harsh segregated system of vaxxed and unvaxxed. We are going to have to get mean.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: viraldrome] * 2
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I don't understand why people would want bad things to happen to other people but maybe it's because I don't want bad things to happen to other people.



A mind compromised by either physiological or ideological pathology can commit the worst of atrocities with the best of intentions.


That many antivaxxers are well intentioned makes them pitiable but since their behavior not only sabotages their own lives but also the lives of others. Good intentions or no, that is where the battle line is drawn.

Bout to walk for shift one of 3 in a row. 0645 to 1915 every day. Safe? Probably not. Avoidable? No. Because the hospital is too overwhelmed.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Koods murders another antivaxxer with his mean thoughts.

Outspoken anti-vax radio host Marc Bernier died after three-week battle with COVID-19


Keep up the good work.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Southern Louisiana is hours away from being hit by the strongest hurricane in over a century and there are almost no hospital beds left in the entire region


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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We'll see what happens. You can't run system past capacity like this and then expect it to handle an addition load. Maybe the failure will cause enough outrage to get some support for mandates or some other meaningful governmental act. I'm tired of this boiling frog problem bullshit. A couple planes hit the world trade centers and we go to war for 20 years, but we get a global pandemic that kills large numbers of people across the whole country/world, and we can't get people to take advantage of free healthcare. Maybe we should put Karl Rove in charge of the CDC.

Edited by Mr.GuessWork (08/29/21 09:17 AM)

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