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Grace Slick
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I don't know much about her, but i just found out that the same person who wrote White Rabbit went on to right "We built this City on Rock and Roll"

how can this be?
White Rabbit=a masterpiece, capturing the sole or the 60's psychedelic movement

We built this city=worst piece of shit ever made.

discuss


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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LOL I always wondered that too. What ever happened to her? I used to love Jefferson Airplane...haven't heard them for awhile though. It is weird the things that happen to musicians after their prime. Most of them anyway, some always stay in their prime or even get better and better :smile:.  Poor Gracie! AAARGH I've got to get off the shroomery,  it's addictive!


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Phishgrrl]
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WHITE RABBIT -- Jefferson Airplane
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Phishgrrl]
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WE BUILT THIS CITY, WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROOOCK AAAND ROOOLLL!
YEA!


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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I think it's mostly a matter of she had her prime, but it ended. It's amazing how many musicians actually have a really short period of creative brilliance, and then the rest of their careers sort of suck. Especially, in "pop music."

There are a few exceptions to this, but they really stand out. I think Neil Young and Tom Waits, for example, have both had remarkable careers, and actually continue to write material that is just as challenging and as brilliant as when they first started. Sure they've had their "clunkers," but the arc of their careers has been pretty strong, and in many ways their music has stayed honest and become more mature. However, this is sadly not the fate of most popular musicians.

PS: Grace Slick wrote "White Rabbit" and "Somebody to Love" for her first band, The Great Society, which often played at a S.F. club called the Matrix with the Jefferson Airplane. When she came onboard with the Airplane, she brought those two songs with her, and they became big hits.

The Airplane's lead guitar player, Jorma Kaukonen, came up with the name Jefferson Airplane as a parody of blues musician's names (e.g. Blind Lemon Jefferson Airplane), and he took the name with him when he and Jack Cassady left to pursue Hot Tuna. So, Paul Kantner kind a took over and renamed the remaining group the Jefferson Starship, and things sort of slid downhill after that. Jorma and Jack were an important part of the Airplane's soul, and when they left... :frown:

However, that being said, the actual Jefferson Airplane was, and still is, one of my favorite groups. They were extremely good for a few years! :cool:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Papaver]
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what about jefferson starship :wink:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Infrared]
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Read my post. I'm not such a big fan of the Jefferson Starship. They had a couple of good songs in the mid-seventies, but they're mostly nostalgia pieces for me, that remind me of my youth -- back when those songs were getting radio airplay.

The very first Jefferson Starship album was interesting, but it was very similar to some of those collaborative solo projects at the time like, "Baron von Tollbooth and the Chrome Nun." It was definitely a Kantner project, and had his finger prints all over it.

That later incarnation, around 1980, which was just simply labeled, "Starship," was atrocious and a mockery. It was a mockery of a sham... :wink:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Papaver]
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i did read your post... somehow i completely missed that sentence were you mentioned jefferson starship though :crazy:  ..... its too early in the morning for me :wink:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Infrared]
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:wink:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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IMO, Grace Slick bought into the idea that the sixties psychedelic movement "didn?t work" and that the people who believed in it were naive. I?ve heard her speak of the sixties. She talks about it as if it was ridiculous that people could really change the world through psychedelics.

Though things didn?t turn out the way the "hippies" had hoped, it wasn?t because psychedelic drugs can?t change the world. It?s because the government destroyed the movement through law and propaganda. Grace Slick bought into the idea that "it didn?t work" and that "it was time to move on". So she moved on alright. She moved on to making soulless, edgeless corporate pop shlock.

I think MOST peace movement icons lost their way to some degree. John Lennon even denounced Timothy Leary and LSD later in his life. Grace Slick just happened to lose her way COMPLETELY.  :nonono: That won?t stop me from listening to Great Society and Airplane albums, and looking back at a time when she had her head on straight.




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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Papaver]
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Pappy are you talking about the Red Octupuss album? it was pretty good and i played it alot back in the day


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Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: OldSpice]
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Yeah, that and a couple of others, but the original Jefferson Airplane was a great band. Unfortunately, it was too many massive egos to have together in one group. I'm surprized that they lasted for the 5-6 years that they did. I saw the full-reunion tour back in '89 (?), and it was a magical show -- at the greek Theater in Berkeley, in opern-air, with those giant columns and the lights of San Francisco as a backdrop -- but damn they never stopped fighting amongst themselves.

I remember, after the acoustic Hot Tuna set, at intermission, Jorma introduced Grace as, "Grace Mother-Fucking Slick." I think Berkeley was the second stop in their Reunion World Tour, and I believe they broke up again right after that gig, and cancelled the tour. It was fun to see the whole group together again though.

That show was quite a contrast to the Love & Rockets show we saw at the Greek several weeks before. That show was all goth and everyone was dressed in black, but for the Airplane show everyone was all rainbow colored -- sort of like a Dead show, but without the same great vibe.


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Papaver]
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Grace had the hots for Marty Balin bigtime and she used to beat his door down wanting to get his weenier~...She fucked Kantner around bigtime during those years :tongue:


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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you should really listen to some great society... it's way better than jefferson airplane... especialy white rabit/somebody to love... a define must have

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...ic&n=507846


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They tried the truth, It didn't work. Then they wrote the bible. 

Only the foolish fear the inevitable.

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Phychotron]
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I wouldn't say The Great Society was better than Airplane. Very good, but I like Airplane better.

Both GS and JA did great versions of "White Rabbit". Airplane's sounded the best, but Great Society did a LONG version of it, which is how it should have been. I can't believe Jefferson Airplane made that song so damn short. Especially in an era in which everyone was doing 17 minute songs right and left.





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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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in respose to the first post, look at bob dylan. now the guy is doing victoria secret commercials :shake:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Trip]
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Bob can do most anything and hes still good by me :smile:


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: OldSpice]
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my dad got in an argument with grace a few years back at a book sighning


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: notapillow]
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notapillow said:
my dad got in an argument with grace a few years back at a book sighning


About what?




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Re: Grace Slick [Re: notapillow]
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solid


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In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter, bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Learyfan]
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i think my dad said her autoghraph would never be worth as much as jerrys because he was dead :tongue:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: notapillow]
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hahaha


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In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter, bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: notapillow]
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I stood in line at a bookstore in Houston for 3 hrs because Steven King was there autographing a book that some dude wrote...
The fuckker wouldnt sign any of his books and they never told us that before we went...Anyway it was me and one of my oldest girlfriends who is married to one of my best friends...She adores King and she was really bummed he wasnt signing any of his books...So I went up to the big window and started banging on it till King looked over at me
I shot him a humongus FUCK YOU finger...they allmost arrested me :cool:


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: OldSpice]
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yet anouther similarity between my dad and paw or ripp


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: notapillow]
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notapillow said:
i think my dad said her autoghraph would never be worth as much as jerrys because he was dead :tongue:


How did that come up in conversation?




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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Learyfan]
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i think my dad just blurted it out
i can go ask him if u want :lol:


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Learyfan]
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I read a shitload of stuff about JA in a rollinstone mag way back when
They were buttfuck rich and crazy as they come


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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Dreamer987]
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I recall seeing footage of one of Grace Slick's last live performances. It was in Germany. She was hammered and kept yelling, "Who won the war?!?!?!?" In the interview afterwards she basically said she was too embarassed to perform again.

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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Phencyclidine]
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That was the "Behind The Music" on JA, I believe. She was 10 sheets to the wind.




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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Learyfan]
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She also tried to dose President Nixon with LSD at a White House function.
Ah, how things might have been different if she succeeded!


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Re: Grace Slick [Re: Jellric]
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i dident know that!, hmmm nice.

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