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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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As soon as it looked apparent (I mean apparent to most people because I knew in March) that Trump was going to lose, he said the only way he could lose was if he was cheated by voter fraud. A significant portion of his base believes this, but the they believe everything he says.

Republican state governments have intentionally slowed the voting process to sow discord.

In some states they can not start counting mail in/absentee ballots early because of state laws that were in place long before this election. IMO these are good laws, because if results were leaked, it would effect later voter's choices.

In every report I've heard, judges have rejected Trump's efforts to reject votes both before during and after the election. Trump thinks he can go straight to the Supreme Court, but so far none of these cases is eligible to even go to Appeals Court.

I'm not sure if he's dumb enough to think the legal challenges will work. More likely he just wants to rile up his base so he can go down feeling like a winner.

My point is this entire process has been a predictable, transparent, manufactured, self-fulfilling prophecy  conspiracy theory right from the start. It has nothing to do with the actual events of this election.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
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My friend texted me earlier saying the democrats are cheating because they put an encrypted watermark on every mail in ballot so they could be tracked. I asked him how this would facilitate cheating and also why the democrats couldn’t just use the unique barcode on every ballot that already allows them to be tracked.

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I don’t have to explain to u, look it up

Idgaf, I know u will lose



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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Now this, this is nothing short of amazing:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464







"Trump prepares to launch a second term early, even without winning
He may fire department heads like the FBI's Chris Wray and Pentagon chief Mark Esper. He could sign base-pleasing executive orders. He might resume travel.

U.S. President Donald Trump.
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks on election night in the East Room of the White House in the early morning hours of November 04, 2020 in Washington, DC. | Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

By NANCY COOK

11/05/2020 04:49 PM EST

President Donald Trump has struggled to convince the country he already won the election. So he’s just going to do the next best thing: Act like he’s starting his second term early.

Trump and his aides have settled on a plan for him to take full advantage of his existing perch at the White House to look as presidential as possible, according to three people briefed on the strategy. He may fire a few Cabinet members and top aides, including FBI Director Christopher Wray and Defense Secretary Mark Esper. He could sign a slew of base-pleasing executive orders. He might even resume his travel schedule. Meanwhile, Trump’s team is planning to mount even more legal challenges and cast evidence-deficient aspersions on the integrity of ballots.


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The president is frustrated by what he views as unfair election results in states like Arizona, and is steaming at the possibility of losing to a candidate he considers “weak,” Democratic nominee Joe Biden. The irritation is compounded by Biden’s moves to launch his presidential transition operation and signal confidence about ultimate victory in key states such as Arizona and Nevada, which have him close to clinching the presidential race.

Trump’s team “will flatly say they are wrong if the AP calls the race for Biden,” said former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a longtime Trump ally.

“We were at the White House until 3 a.m. on election night,” he added. “I was punchy physically, but I also could not get my head around what is going on until today. The president is going through something similar.”

Yet after two days of staying out of the public’s view, stewing over media coverage and feeling irritated with a handful of top advisers, Trump and his team have settled on the approach of barreling toward a second term — even if, during the final months of his campaign, Trump repeatedly failed to lay out any agenda for another four years.


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Thursday night, Trump made his first public appearance since election night, expanding on the baseless claims of election fraud he has been spouting on Twitter. He made no mention of any governing moves, but did vow to fight the election results in court all the way to the Supreme Court — a proposition seen by most legal experts as unlikely and detached from the realities of a state-by-state electoral system.

"It’s going to end up perhaps at the highest court in the land, we’ll see," Trump said, before leaving without taking questions.

In the coming days, Trump's post-election governing agenda may kick off with firings of key aides who have long rankled the president, especially those within the intelligence and national security community. Those firings could happen within the next week, even if the results of the election favor Biden or remain unclear.

"The first thing is going to be: Who's left, who's been loyal and who's been competent?” said one Republican close to the White House. “That's going to be the first criteria. Who's been loyal and who's competent.”


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Along with potential firings, Trump is also expected to spend the next week signing a flurry of executive orders on everything from trade to manufacturing to China as a way to show he is staying busy. He may also tackle a few executive orders on his favored cultural and social issues, according to two Republicans close to the White House.

“Just as he promised the American people, President Trump is fighting hard for a free and fair election while at the same time running the country and carrying out his duties to put America First,” White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere said in a statement.

The Trump campaign is separately dispatching surrogates like David Bossie, Corey Lewandowski, Pam Bondi and Ric Grenell to battleground states like Arizona, Pennsylvania and Nevada to raise doubts about state election results and elicit local media coverage for the campaign’s spate of ongoing legal challenges, which Trump aides and advisers anticipate will last for the next several weeks.

“We are in this fight. We are going to stay in,” Trump deputy campaign manager, Justin Clark, told reporters on a call on Thursday.

In recent months, Trump has shrunk his circle of top advisers to longtime aides, family members and a few top campaign officials. Those aides, along with chief of staff Mark Meadows and top White House attorney Pat Cipollone, have been advising the president on his strategy and moves in the days after the election.

Ever since the president delivered remarks at the White House in the early hours of Nov. 4, he has stayed out of view. Trump has tweeted but not given any public remarks about the election or his plans moving forward. Trump allies and advisers say he has passed the time watching media coverage and speaking by phone to friends and fellow politicians.

One ally said once Trump reemerged, it would to resume his activities in a “big” way."


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:kingcrankey: I did not say to edit my signature soulidarity! Now forever I will never remember what I said about understanding the secrets of the universe by paying attention to subtleties!

:facepalm: I'm never giving you the password again. Jerk

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel] * 2
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Dictator trump os making his move


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Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
My friend texted me earlier saying the democrats are cheating because they put an encrypted watermark on every mail in ballot so they could be tracked. I asked him how this would facilitate cheating and also why the democrats couldn’t just use the unique barcode on every ballot that already allows them to be tracked.

Quote:
I don’t have to explain to u, look it up

Idgaf, I know u will lose



Is this your friend?



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:kingcrankey: I did not say to edit my signature soulidarity! Now forever I will never remember what I said about understanding the secrets of the universe by paying attention to subtleties!

:facepalm: I'm never giving you the password again. Jerk

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Dictator trump os making his move


:trollmove:


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:kingcrankey: I did not say to edit my signature soulidarity! Now forever I will never remember what I said about understanding the secrets of the universe by paying attention to subtleties!

:facepalm: I'm never giving you the password again. Jerk

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Hey thats exactly what a dictator would do.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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Georgia has 16,000 mail in ballots left and trumps lead is down to 2,500

If Biden wins Georgia the best trump can do is tie 269-269


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/05/20 07:10 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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Get ready? :urinate:


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:kingcrankey: I did not say to edit my signature soulidarity! Now forever I will never remember what I said about understanding the secrets of the universe by paying attention to subtleties!

:facepalm: I'm never giving you the password again. Jerk

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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The last update from Georgia. Clayton county  Trump got 165 votes Biden got 1150. 5000 ballots left in that county.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/05/20 07:22 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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All true but you really felt it would be this close? Look like my prediction is a no go for Trump....but did anyone predict the Senate or House?


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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The sad thing it’s not close. Biden has over 4 million more votes. It’s only close because of our affirmative action electoral system.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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trumps lead in Georgia down to 1900

Trumps lead in Pa down to 42,000


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/05/20 07:40 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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Still a reality that a bicamerial legislature and electoral college calculations happen. It was pretty disappointing night for the Left. Mitch is going gaggle fuck Biden.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
As soon as it looked apparent (I mean apparent to most people because I knew in March) that Trump was going to lose, he said the only way he could lose was if he was cheated by voter fraud. A significant portion of his base believes this, but the they believe everything he says.

In every report I've heard, judges have rejected Trump's efforts to reject votes both before during and after the election. Trump thinks he can go straight to the Supreme Court, but so far none of these cases is eligible to even go to Appeals Court.

I'm not sure if he's dumb enough to think the legal challenges will work.


First of all, anyone who 'knew' Trump was going to lose was tricked by the mainstream media, because the election turned out to be a nail biter, with Trump favored to win at 10:00pm on election night.  At this point, Biden is looking pretty good, but I'm confused by the Biden supporters who think it's NOT ok to throw out the votes of non-residents and people who died before the election.

Also, Trump DID win his lawsuit in Pennsylvania, where mail-in ballots that lacked identifying information wouldn't be counted per Pennsylvania law, and poll workers who were processing mail in ballots had to allow themselves to be observed.  I really don't see a problem with that, do you?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
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imachavel said:
Now this, this is nothing short of amazing:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464

"Trump prepares to launch a second term early, even without winning


Trump is president for the rest of the year, and he can still do whatever Presidents are allowed to do, regardless of the spin other people put on it.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Quote:
Trump favored to win at 10:00pm on election night.  At this point, Biden is looking pretty good, but I'm confused by the Biden supporters who think it's NOT ok to throw out the votes of non-residents and people who died before the election.


Would you stop with this garbage. There’s no evidence these votes exist. Your spin is gross, but not unexpected.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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You're just parroting lies that Trump said. He's offered literally zero evidence. This isn't even a close election. Biden is destroying Trump.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I'm confused by the Biden supporters who think it's NOT ok to throw out the votes of non-residents and people who died before the election.


Would you stop with this garbage. There’s no evidence these votes exist. Your spin is gross, but not unexpected.


If none of these votes exist, why fight Trump on not counting them?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
This isn't even a close election. Biden is destroying Trump.


In the popular vote, which doesn't count.


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