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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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Physicists hypothesize that the Universe is multi-dimensional. A theory for why gravity is so "weak" compared to the other forces is because its believed that gravity could be split-up between multi-dimensions of space.


What if they theory was right? And what if matter could also exist in different types of dimensions? What if consciousness could exist in another dimension?

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Tripsten said:
And to the other
You still haven’t been able to explain how it’s “losing me “
Or how we have an individual soul with in our body lol
You keep using physical thigns to try and describe it
Again
Because that’s all there is
So explain the exactly
What is the individual soul
What is it made of
Where is it


Why do people act as if tho this being all there is is so terrible when it’s so wonderful and freeing
And truly beautiful
Here we are
Existence
Life
Take a breath and enjoy it you know ?


I'm using physical things cause I'm trying to break it down for you, easily. You have your own feelings and emotions compared to me, right? I don't feel the same way that you do about things, right? We have different individual souls experiencing this world.

And I agree with your last paragraph. It is beautiful. But there's people who feel different and think it's horrible. Why? Cause their individual soul is experiencing and feeling something different.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
But what if there was a dimension beyond your awareness? How could u prove it wasnt there?

Is the dream reality actually physical? Or is it something else above physical? Something more fluid than matter.


That reminds me of quantum physics experiments where viewing the experiment changes the outcome.

As for ghosts and that, I am more influenced by my own imagination. When I was younger I would get the feeling something was stalking me and I would run from the dark.

I love the horror movies tho. If demons were real, I would arm to the teeth and go out Evil Dead style.


Ghosts i believe are quantum in nature or at least can interact with quantum particles in space. Perhaps thats why they appear so strange on photos and by sightings.

That believe comes from a book named The Coming of Tan.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Physicists hypothesize that the Universe is multi-dimensional. A theory for why gravity is so "weak" compared to the other forces is because its believed that gravity could be split-up between multi-dimensions of space.


What if they theory was right? And what if matter could also exist in different types of dimensions? What if consciousness could exist in another dimension?


I mean user there theory is correct
But that has nothing to do with what we are talking about
Other dimensions
And an entire spiritual plane where your ego some how gets to live happily ever after are completely different ideas
The other dimensions are likely right here as well
Many of which are in the infinite space between molecules and atoms and everything

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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The89thchamber said:
Tripsten said:
And to the other
You still haven’t been able to explain how it’s “losing me “
Or how we have an individual soul with in our body lol
You keep using physical thigns to try and describe it
Again
Because that’s all there is
So explain the exactly
What is the individual soul
What is it made of
Where is it


Why do people act as if tho this being all there is is so terrible when it’s so wonderful and freeing
And truly beautiful
Here we are
Existence
Life
Take a breath and enjoy it you know ?


I'm using physical things cause I'm trying to break it down for you, easily. You have your own feelings and emotions compared to me, right? I don't feel the same way that you do about things, right? We have different individual souls experiencing this world.

And I agree with your last paragraph. It is beautiful. But there's people who feel different and think it's horrible. Why? Cause their individual soul is experiencing and feeling something different.


But feelings and emotions are physical constructs
None of that shows or proves that there is a soul lol

And no your using physical thigns to explain because that’s literally all you can use because that’s literally all that there is
Explain to me then in terms that don’t exist in the physical universe
But with in the place your trying to prove to me is out there

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
XUL said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
But what if there was a dimension beyond your awareness? How could u prove it wasnt there?

Is the dream reality actually physical? Or is it something else above physical? Something more fluid than matter.


That reminds me of quantum physics experiments where viewing the experiment changes the outcome.

As for ghosts and that, I am more influenced by my own imagination. When I was younger I would get the feeling something was stalking me and I would run from the dark.

I love the horror movies tho. If demons were real, I would arm to the teeth and go out Evil Dead style.


Ghosts i believe are quantum in nature or at least can interact with quantum particles in space. Perhaps thats why they appear so strange on photos and by sightings.

That believe comes from a book named The Coming of Tan.


That makes sense.

Interesting.


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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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I bet in the future, that will come to be known. We just dont have the technology yet to accurately measure whats going on.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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Physical constructs? What?

What is the soul, to you? I should've asked that first.

and what is physical, to you?

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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Don’t dodge my questions
I’ve literally answered everything you’ve asked already
What is the soul
What is it made of
And where is it

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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“Physical” for me is just an umbrella term encompassing the thigns around us
The soul and physical are the same thing in my mind
I used to believe in individual souls and spiritual practices and all that fun stuff
But I eventually learned that that was all that it was
Great fun and comfort

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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I would guess the soul is some kind of multi-dimensional consciousness-energy. We barely understand both space, consciousness and energy so take that as it will.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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I wouldn’t fully disagree with that
I’m stating that the idea of a ghost like soul that is in essence us
Our personality
And in many people’s beliefs our appearance
Is false in my mind

Edited by Tripsten (04/11/19 06:06 PM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Tripsten said:
Don’t dodge my questions
I’ve literally answered everything you’ve asked already
What is the soul
What is it made of
And where is it


I'm not dodging your questions. You're asking physical 3d type questions, you don't get it. Your soul is your feelings and emotions, your fluid, your time/experience, your vibration.
And actually LogicaL Chaos was on the right track. It's in higher dimensions.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: The89thchamber]
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Its weird shit. How can consciousness be both physical in the brain and as a soul in the higher dimension? Does it have to do with quantum physics?

The mysteries of the Universes are numerous......

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Indeed, and what of the particles that make up our electricity now? Can they be conditioned overtime as compared to other particles, and if they can, is the conditioning a ghost?

Also, on the other side, I wonder what the experience would be, if any at all?


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TRUMP 2020

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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It's more of your subconscious body. It's fluid and less dense like.
And I'm not saying I know everything. It's really fun to delve into.

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: XUL]
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Electricity is made up of electrons. Light is made of photons. Both are types of particles with no mass.

Whats interesting is that ghosts also have no mass, so its possible they can interact with things that also have no mass like electrons and photons or thermal radiation.

I wonder what it would be like as a ghost. The best i can imagine is an "overlay" of a dream-like experience and an Earthly Physical dimension, at the same time (multi-dimensional).

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Ya but everything you just listed
Your emotions , your fluids ect
Are all physical things lol, but alrighty
At this point it’s just going in circles so I’m gonna clock out of the discussion
It was a good one tho
Many good points brought up
I also never stated that what the other guy is saying about quantum stuff couldn’t be true
Most of the quantum realm is completely unknown and technically anything could be real with in it
I’ve stated many times that I’m saying there is no ghost like soul that resembles us and moves on after death
But again
Alrighty 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Edited by Tripsten (04/12/19 06:28 AM)

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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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No worries. I wasnt trying to force u to believe in souls, just love talking about this stuff and got a little carried away. U can believe as u wish, we are all entitled to our own beliefs.


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Re: Ghosts, demons, spirits, and the like [Re: Tripsten]
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Smh oh boy...and yeah, it was a good convo. I messaged you too, check that out if you want.

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