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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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Lol my eyes established that you are wrong


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: koods]
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koods said:
“The rule with the mic” vs the first amendment

Good luck with that


Nope, Acosta and CNN can express whatever they want, but they're not entitled to hog the mic and not follow the rules. 

Maybe CNN can send someone that is capable of following the rules like everybody else does in the WH.

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: christopera]
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CNN sues White House for using doctored video to bar Jim Acosta


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: qman] * 2
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He asked:

“Why did you characterize the caravan as an invasion?”  Did you demonize them?”

“Are you concerned about indictments coming down (per the Russia investigation)?”

The whole time he’s being talked over and being called names.

First you said it was his questions, then you said it was how he asked it, then it was he wasn’t following the rules, then it was he assaulted the girl, then it was he was asking loaded/slanderous questions, now it’s “mic” rules.  You have no argument and come off as a troll.  :shrug:


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: Mycolorado]
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Don’t forget, “so what if trump was wrong Acosta deserved it.”


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Lol my eyes established that you are wrong


Maybe you should get them checked.  It’s not doctored.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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Speeding it up and removing certain audio segments is equivalent to “doctoring”.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
koods said:
Lol my eyes established that you are wrong


Maybe you should get them checked.  It’s not doctored.


It’s scary that the cult of trump is strong enough to cause people to no longer believe their own eyes.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
Speeding it up and removing certain audio segments is equivalent to “doctoring”.


Nothing was sped up.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: lowbrow]
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Nothing to see here. Move along.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: koods]
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koods said:
lowbrow said:
koods said:
Lol my eyes established that you are wrong


Maybe you should get them checked.  It’s not doctored.


It’s scary that the cult of Hillary is strong enough to cause people to no longer believe their own eyes.


Fixed for accuracy in reality.  And I don’t know what this ‘cult of trump’ is that you’re referring too.

I voted for Cthulhu.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
No, those were loaded questions with slanderous accusations.    There's nothing to answer because those aren't legitimate questions.


Yep you don’t get it either. The content of the question is not a valid reason to kick him out. I just wish there was some punitive measure that could be imposed when the White House violates s reporters first amendment rights


How do you figure that the White House "violated" Acosta's first amendment right?  If Acosta wanted to ask those questions by posting them in his newspaper, nobody is stopping him from doing that.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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lowbrow said:
Mycolorado said:
Speeding it up and removing certain audio segments is equivalent to “doctoring”.


Nothing was sped up.


Why would the Counselor to the President, Kellyanne Conway say it was then?

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/12/1812331/-Kellyanne-Conway-says-White-House-tape-wasn-t-altered-it-was-just-sped-up


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Camp fire stories. 
TinyBee said:
koods said:
qman said:
No, those were loaded questions with slanderous accusations.    There's nothing to answer because those aren't legitimate questions.


Yep you don’t get it either. The content of the question is not a valid reason to kick him out. I just wish there was some punitive measure that could be imposed when the White House violates s reporters first amendment rights


How do you figure that the White House "violated" Acosta's first amendment right?  If Acosta wanted to ask those questions by posting them in his newspaper, nobody is stopping him from doing that.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.


There's already legal precedent this violates first amendment rights.

The best part, the precedent resolved an issue where the credentials were revoked over actual violence, not fake violence. Haaa.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/legality-revoking-jim-acostas-press-pass/575479/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=2018-11-09T16%3A45%3A18&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&fbclid=IwAR1Wsa9ti_6Ci_5eJ565huxp0_dutxWyZNPKpjOceRpc72DZRa99UemTsiw


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
He asked:

“Why did you characterize the caravan as an invasion?”  Did you demonize them?”

“Are you concerned about indictments coming down (per the Russia investigation)?”

The whole time he’s being talked over and being called names.

First you said it was his questions, then you said it was how he asked it, then it was he wasn’t following the rules, then it was he assaulted the girl, then it was he was asking loaded/slanderous questions, now it’s “mic” rules.  You have no argument and come off as a troll.  :shrug:


You're full of it, I NEVER stated it was "his questions" that were the issue, or "how he asked it". 

The argument is very simple, Acosta asked slanderous loaded questions and then didn't follow the rules, that's why got banned.

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
CNN sues White House for using doctored video to bar Jim Acosta


This isn't about banning a certain ideology, it's about not following the basic rules of the WH. 

CNN is desperate here, nothing burger.

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
Camp fire stories. 
TinyBee said:
koods said:
Yep you don’t get it either. The content of the question is not a valid reason to kick him out. I just wish there was some punitive measure that could be imposed when the White House violates s reporters first amendment rights


How do you figure that the White House "violated" Acosta's first amendment right?  If Acosta wanted to ask those questions by posting them in his newspaper, nobody is stopping him from doing that.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.


There's already legal precedent this violates first amendment rights.

The best part, the precedent resolved an issue where the credentials were revoked over actual violence, not fake violence. Haaa.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/legality-revoking-jim-acostas-press-pass/575479/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=2018-11-09T16%3A45%3A18&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&fbclid=IwAR1Wsa9ti_6Ci_5eJ565huxp0_dutxWyZNPKpjOceRpc72DZRa99UemTsiw


I can't comment on this precedent because I have no training in law.  So I will leave it for other people to interpret the significance of it.  Also, let's say that this precedent is on Acosta's side, does this mean that from now on, the White house cannot kick a reporter out of its press conferences for any reason at all, because according to you, this would violate said reporter's 1st amendment rights?

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: TinyBee]
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TinyBee said:.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.


absolutely wrong. They cannot remove him for any reason. There is a first amendment. The White House cannot pick and choose who has access to press conferences. That press pass belongs to CNN and CNN can send whoever they want. They can’t take away his pass because they don’t think he’s respectful enough. That is a clear violation of the first amendment. Trump has no leg to stand on, and that doctored tape is not going to look good. I expect the judge will issue personal admonishment to Sarah sanders for her role. They won’t be able to lie in front of the judge. Should be interesting.


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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
TinyBee said:.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.


absolutely wrong. They cannot remove him for any reason. There is a first amendment. The White House cannot pick and choose who has access to press conferences. That press pass belongs to CNN and CNN can send whoever they want. They can’t take away his pass because they don’t think he’s respectful enough. That is a clear violation of the first amendment. Trump has no leg to stand on, and that doctored tape is not going to look good. I expect the judge will issue personal admonishment to Sarah sanders for her role. They won’t be able to lie in front of the judge. Should be interesting.


So in what circumstances can the White House take away reporters' passes?

Also, it doest seem like Acosta's 1st amendment rights have been violated.  He can still ask those questions in his papers all he wants.

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Re: CNN's Jim Acosta Banned from White House [Re: TinyBee]
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TinyBee said:
christopera said:
Camp fire stories. 
TinyBee said:
koods said:
Yep you don’t get it either. The content of the question is not a valid reason to kick him out. I just wish there was some punitive measure that could be imposed when the White House violates s reporters first amendment rights


How do you figure that the White House "violated" Acosta's first amendment right?  If Acosta wanted to ask those questions by posting them in his newspaper, nobody is stopping him from doing that.  Acosta was invited to the White house, and the White House can decide to withdraw that privilege anytime it wants and for any reason at all.


There's already legal precedent this violates first amendment rights.

The best part, the precedent resolved an issue where the credentials were revoked over actual violence, not fake violence. Haaa.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/legality-revoking-jim-acostas-press-pass/575479/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=2018-11-09T16%3A45%3A18&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&fbclid=IwAR1Wsa9ti_6Ci_5eJ565huxp0_dutxWyZNPKpjOceRpc72DZRa99UemTsiw


I can't comment on this precedent because I have no training in law.  So I will leave it for other people to interpret the significance of it.  Also, let's say that this precedent is on Acosta's side, does this mean that from now on, the White house cannot kick a reporter out of its press conferences for any reason at all, because according to you, this would violate said reporter's 1st amendment rights?


No reporter has had their press pass punitively removed in the history of the United States. The first amendment is very clear about the the ability of the press to be unemcumbered in their work.


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