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Is American Nationalism okay?
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There is a lot of debate around the world "nationalist." Some people think it's synonymous with racist, but that is not the case. Here is the definition from Merrium Webster.

The left likes to re-define words like racism and nationalism.

Unfortunately Americans don't like re-defined terms for PC cultural or to pacify liberal feelings.

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Definition of nationalism 
1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism
Is it okay to be an American nationalist?
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Is it okay to love your country first?
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Votes accepted from 10/25/18 11:50 AM until the end of time
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Edited by XUL (10/25/18 04:38 PM)

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL] * 1
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When you say your priority is your nations culture , your talking about Native American,  African american , and Latino culture , right?


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: Psilynut2]
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I can see why you would say that. But it's not so simple, I think.

You have people like the Irish who came to America after the revolutionary war and were treated like dogs, but they fought in the civil war to free slaves. Why is this important? Because the Irish did not initially settle in North America like the British, French, and Spanish did. Thus, they bear no responsibility for the indian relationships with England, France, Spain, and later, America. The same goes for many other people. Further, we don't bear the burdens of our fathers. We are born innocent

Also, keep in mind that 90% of the natives died from disease. Further, when America began the revolutionary war in 1775, the British allied with Tucumsa (indians) and attempted to destroy Boonville, where Daniel Boone was establishing a settlement. That means the indians declared war on American revolutionaries. Interestingly, two years prior to this, Daniel Boon's son was tortured to death by indians.

On one last note, North America was not a giant Indian Utopia. It was made up of many warring and competing tribes. The Europeans were just another tribe on the giant earth. In the beginning, we all came from Africa.

If I am wrong, is the Indian Utopia strong on immigration? Shall we pack our bags and head back to wherever our ancient ancestors came from?


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Edited by XUL (10/25/18 04:24 PM)

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
When you say your priority is your nations culture , your talking about Native American,  African american , and Latino culture , right?


It's pretty simple, US citizens have priority over non-US citizens regardless of race or ethnicity.

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: qman] * 1
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I didn’t see anything in the definition about citizenship status ...
my wife became a citizen in 2007 , she really values and supports Latino culture , that makes her a nationalist right ?


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: Psilynut2]
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XUL there was no tribe of Europeans. Europeans are not homogenous. The people kf Europe spent the last 1,000 years fighting with each other, dividing the continent up into feudal states, enclaves, dutchies, districts, etc. Ireland didn’t claim land in the new world becasue it was under occupation by another European country which is actually just an aggregation of a bunch of different tribes that happen to live on the same island.

The worst and most violent wars in human history started because Europeans were fighting with other Europeans.

If this is about European culture then what’s the problem with Mexicans? Hondurans? These are European cultures just as much as ours.


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
I didn’t see anything in the definition about citizenship status ...
my wife became a citizen in 2007 , she really values and supports Latino culture , that makes her a nationalist right ?


Does she put US citizens ahead of non-US citizens?  There's your answer.

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: qman]
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No , she just preferres Latin culture . Can’t wait to tell her she’s a nationalist , bet she doesn’t even know she’s a nationalist just like Trump .


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL]
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I am wrong, is the Indian Utopia strong on immigration? Shall we pack our bags and head back to wherever our ancient ancestors came from?



Dude don’t stop there , tell us how you feel about African American culture now .


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: qman]
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Also, keep in mind that 90% of the natives died from disease


300 years ago, 90% of everyone died from disease. Natural human lifespans are 80-90 years. 300 years ago you were lucky to get to 50


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: koods] * 1
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Nationalism is an infantile disease , it’s the measles of mankind . — Albert Einstein


As a citizen of Germany, I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions  . — Also Einstein

I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality culT — Einstein


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: koods]
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There is nothing wrong with them.


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
There is nothing wrong with them.


Well, maybe they have some problems, but I am not too involved in South America's/central countries.

I understand that socialism has failed in Brazil, as Military dictator parties are now climbing to power. Their pledge: to stop crime.


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Edited by XUL (10/25/18 03:55 PM)

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL]
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Nationalism is as stupid as racism.


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Re: American Nationalism [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Nationalism is for people who are failures in life but don’t want to take any responsibility for their situation. You aren’t entitled to a job In the factory your daddy worked at, and Mexicans aren’t to blame for it not being there.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: koods]
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That's not it.

We aren't entitled to shit except law, constitution, life, and liberty.
Edit: maybe not even life, depending on abortion laws......
If my whore mother puked me out, we need to learn how to survive. How to work, delay gratification if needed, and find our piece of peace.

Edit, my dad didn't work in a factory. He worked in a coal mine and then got a biology degree on his own money.


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Edited by XUL (10/25/18 05:45 PM)

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
That's not it.

We aren't entitled to shit except law, constitution, life, and liberty.
Edit: maybe not even life, depending on abortion laws......
If my whore mother puked me out, we need to learn how to survive. How to work, delay gratification if needed, and find our piece of peace.

Edit, my dad didn't work in a factory. He worked in a coal mine and then got a biology degree on his own money.


Who is entitled to law, constitution, life and liberty?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: XUL] * 2
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Why would I ever love my country when my country wants to lock me in a cage for possession of marijuana or psychedelics?

Why would I be proud of living in a place that does that to people?

Why would anybody want to put their country first when the government is actively trying to ruin their lives?

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Re: American Nationalism [Re: waves] * 2
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Our government is the biggest threat to my freedom. Not migrants or muslims or other countries..

A lot of my fellow Americans would like to kill me or imprison me.

Why should I put them before somebody from another country who respects me?

Edited by waves (10/25/18 06:22 PM)

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Re: Is American Nationalism okay? [Re: XUL]
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That is the definition, my natural inclination is to distrust someone who proclaims himself a nationalist, when the one making the proclamation is in a position where that should be a given.

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