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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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I'd bet George Carlin would be making fun of today's "conservatives" even more than the liberals. :rolleyes: That ship has sailed.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
And there you go again..bringing me up when i have nothing to do with this. Why are so obsessed with my sex life?


Because I enjoy dissecting your pithy argument. I also enjoy the fact that you have no real basis for it, and the fact that it clearly stems from motivations within yourself aside of 'we gotta look out for the kids man' - because, if that was truly your cause - you wouldn't be focusing on JUST transgender people and calling them bad parents. Bad parents are fucking everywhere, and I'll tell you one thing for a fact; there's loads more straight bad parents than there are transgender ones.

There's a reason for you going off on this subject like you have, and it's not the one you're convinced it is.

I'm hoping that, one day, you might grow up and see that.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: st1llnox] * 1
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st1llnox said:
Not in these numbers or wed have seen a proportional increase as the percentage of total gays that are out increases.


Gay does not equate to trans.  There are gay trans folk, and straight trans folk.

I got raised on the gayer side of the fence, I've known plenty of trans people and about their feelings well before they came out to the world.

The general consensus with the trans people I have met is coming out is safer now, and that's why people do it.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Bill_Oreilly said:
And there you go again..bringing me up when i have nothing to do with this. Why are so obsessed with my sex life?


Because I enjoy dissecting your pithy argument. I also enjoy the fact that you have no real basis for it, and the fact that it clearly stems from motivations within yourself aside of 'we gotta look out for the kids man' - because, if that was truly your cause - you wouldn't be focusing on JUST transgender people and calling them bad parents. Bad parents are fucking everywhere, and I'll tell you one thing for a fact; there's loads more straight bad parents than there are transgender ones.

There's a reason for you going off on this subject like you have, and it's not the one you're convinced it is.

I'm hoping that, one day, you might grow up and see that.



Well that's what the thread is about..read the fucking title. If we wanted to talk about regular bad parents we would be doing it 365 days a year. You seem afraid of this topic..hence why you wanted to close it and even made a poll to do so.

And of course there's more bad straight parents..theres more straight people. Duh

You just continue to make zero sense. Your arguments are honestly all over the place. It's quite sad because you spend your life doing this instead of being in the real world making a change. No matter what you think, a parent who is trans or whatever will be more likely to fuck up a kid than a regular parent.

You want to so bad convince yourself that trans people are exactly like straight people mentally...but it's just not true. Many of them need therapy and who knows what else. I want to live in a NORMAL world..not a genderqueer bathroom-protesting liberal one where people argue ideas that are unimportant compared to real things such as where all tax payers money go and things like that...the more we talk about this crap the more the people in control can keep fucking us over. So go ahead..be your little knight in shining armor for these people...it won't help a damn thing.

Goodnight


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
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Don't you have a kid?

What happens if they grow up and are gay, or trans?

Will you not love them any longer? If that did happen, do you think they should be forbidden from having children?


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
st1llnox said:
Not in these numbers or wed have seen a proportional increase as the percentage of total gays that are out increases.


Gay does not equate to trans.  There are gay trans folk, and straight trans folk.

I got raised on the gayer side of the fence, I've known plenty of trans people and about their feelings well before they came out to the world.

The general consensus with the trans people I have met is coming out is safer now, and that's why people do it.


Totally missed my argument; it hinges on it becoming safer to be trans when it becomes safer to be gay, neither of which are the same thing.

I would go out on a limb and say 9/10 times if you're gay AND transgender then you needed a hobby a while ago.

There is the 1 in 10 tho


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
Many of them need therapy and who knows what else. I want to live in a NORMAL world..


Do you need therapy Bill? Do you know what normal is? If so, how?

Of course you'll sidestep the questions because they do not fit your agenda, but I'm happy to spend sixty seconds asking anyway.

You seem to remain wilfully ignorant of the fact that I'm just having fun. This is how I relax. Unlike yourself, I have no agenda to tout here, aside of hoping that you might see past the hatred and into love.

But then I wish that of the whole world.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: st1llnox] * 1
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st1llnox said:
Mr Piggy said:
st1llnox said:
Not in these numbers or wed have seen a proportional increase as the percentage of total gays that are out increases.


Gay does not equate to trans.  There are gay trans folk, and straight trans folk.

I got raised on the gayer side of the fence, I've known plenty of trans people and about their feelings well before they came out to the world.

The general consensus with the trans people I have met is coming out is safer now, and that's why people do it.


Totally missed my argument; it hinges on it becoming safer to be trans when it becomes safer to be gay, neither of which are the same thing.

I would go out on a limb and say 9/10 times if you're gay AND transgender then you needed a hobby a while ago.

There is the 1 in 10 tho


They're not concurrent.  It was becoming safer to be gay sooner than it was to be trans.  The amount of people coming out as trans now reflects that relatively new safe environment.

Sorry if none of this is making sense, I'm VERY stoned and also watching robin hood: prince of thieves.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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I would argue that the widespread acceptance of gay people has made things harder for trans. Until very recently, gays were the big social wedge issue that could predictably turn out voters. anti gay ballot measures were a political tool to get the conservatives into the booth. Now we’re not controversial enough. So right wing politicians have moved on to trans people. And that’s why we have bathroom bills.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: koods]
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I disagree. People have made gender into a conspicuous target by making social justice into a tribal circle jerk rather than a party-agnostic push to accomplish specific policy or procedural objectives.

It's that simple.

Fuck the moral majority nonsense from the 90s.


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st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: st1llnox] * 3
    #25561981 -

Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because the right can’t stop talking about it.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because the right can’t stop talking about it.


Bingo.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
koods said:
Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because the right can’t stop talking about it.


Bingo.


You can't stop talking about it


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st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: st1llnox]
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You're talking about it right now, you're obsessed!


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: twighead]
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Mr Piggy said:
They been around the whole time, it's just now they have to worry less about being lynched for being themselves.


Mentally, maybe!

Physically it's a new thing.

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
koods said:
Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because the right can’t stop talking about it.


Bingo.


Its not a left or right thing.

One thing can be said. There's a higher proportion of genderqueer kids. Does it matter? Nah, i could care less if some parents fuck their kids up. Some people are legitimately trans gay or whatever else, that's fine. And some tranny people are terrible parents. All kinds of people are terrible parents. In the 50-90s smokers influenced their kids to be smokers for instance. I could care less about what's "bad" it's a matter of perspective. Im not here to save the world, some people are going to get fucked up by parents. Whos to say the still won't end up enjoying their life anyway. I really don't know why people are so concerned with other people's kids being queers. Who really gives a fuck. Yea its a social trend it will balance out and go back to just the actual queer people being queer instead of a social fad.


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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: st1llnox]
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st1llnox said:
Mr Piggy said:
koods said:
Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because the right can’t stop talking about it.


Bingo.


You can't stop talking about responding to it



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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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So when you have a kid you will teach them to question their sex instead of letting them decided for themselves when the time is right?
...


What would you consider to be the "right time" for individuals to be exposed to this information?
personally never had real exposure to and understanding of the concept until the whole Caitlyn Jenner thing
but started trying to kill myself around the age of 12-13; convinced of having somehow been born into the incorrect body and that another shot at life may get it right
now the prospect of reincarnation has me more terrified of losing a 50/50 gamble and being stuck in a male body all over again

would you consider 18 to be an acceptable age to introduce individuals to the reality of transitioning?
and should there be any sort of formal structure in terms of teaching them or are you proposing simply sheltering children from the issue until a given time?

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: Tantrika] * 2
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I think parents teaching their kids they should follow a doctrine created by some mysterious ominous being fucks a kid up just as much.

Or telling kids don't do drugs besides alcohol because it's a sin and you'll go strait to hell for it. That's terrible

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Re: Do you think transgenders..genderqueers...transvestites...etc should be able to adopt kids? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I would argue that the widespread acceptance of gay people has made things harder for trans. Until very recently, gays were the big social wedge issue that could predictably turn out voters. anti gay ballot measures were a political tool to get the conservatives into the booth. Now we’re not controversial enough. So right wing politicians have moved on to trans people. And that’s why we have bathroom bills.


Throughout the entire country this is true, but I live on the west coast and it's a hell of a lot safer our here for queer folk of all stripes.


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