Necropolis said:

Katz 206 said:

so if you admit that some bed test results are bullshit, how do you know which ones are legit and which ones arent? how do you know theres bud out there testing at 30% thc when BHO is testing at 60%-90%, assuming those numbers arent bullshit too.. i dont understand how bud can be up to half as pure thc as BHO...

i dont know why everyone keeps bring up dry weight.. like who the fuck was even talking about fresh weed still growing on the plant?

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lol bodhisatva is the only one talking about fresh vs dry weight. Only amateurs would use weed that isn't dry. When you're making hash, it doesn't matter. When you're making oil with a solvent extraction everyone knows bud that isn't dry decreases your yield. I'm pretty sure a guy who specializes in oils and won a friggin cannabis cup knows that.

BHO isn't 100% THC. Maybe 90% at best. Ganja Jon said 1/5 of the weight of a pound ends up being oil, at best. That means it's basically impossible that flowers can be 20% THC by weight. They're just trying to sell a product. People always bitched and moaned that if they legalized it the corporations would take over and it would be too commercialized. Well that's exactly what happened because it was only legalized on a state level. All these retarded state governments and city governments allowed it to become overly commercialized. No federal oversight means it's going to be an industry full of bullshit and false advertising.

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bodhisatta said:

...I really don't think all the results for decades have been wrong. Yea some buds test results are bullshit but 20-30% thc weed absolutely exists

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That's basically where I stand....

...I know test #s have been skewed before (I've heard it happening mostly in regards to competitions/cannabis cups), but I don't think all the testing #s over the past couple decades have been entirely false through out the entire world. Test #s have been exaggerated/false before, yea that's happened, but I don't think there's some conspiracy with all testing labs across the world to exaggerate the THC percentage.


I do believe 20% to 30% THC herb actually exists ....but when the #s start getting up around and beyond 30% is when I start to have my doubts and call bullshit.






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bodhisatta said:

400g of fresh off the plant weed lets say 75% moisture content
Thats 100g of actual plant
Of that 100g 25% is THC(a)

Cured smokeable bud is for purpose of easy math 25% water.

133g is your cured weight from 400g wet weight.
Of that 133g 25g would be thc(a)

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i agree that its possible for weed to be above 20% thc, but what im saying is that top of the line dank at its peek. i would like you to justify the guys weed that has the test results at 37.97%

so if we agree that number is not real, i then wonder how do we tell the different between whats real and not real when we know theres fakes?

edit: i guess maybe what i mean is it starting to seem like they are already manipulating results by completely dehydrating bud of 100% moisture, testing it and then putting test results on bud with moisture content in it. to me that would be indicating they are claiming 20% of the weed in the bag i bought is thc when just based on the manipulation of moisture its not. and then theres the issues of what parts are they testing, just calyxis? or are they using the same trim job on the bud they test vs package?

i guess what im reaaaally getting at is when you buy lets say a gram of weed and it says its 25% thc. is it really? how much are we allowed to do process wise to test it, and at what point do things become not genuine anymore. why not just freeze it knock it around a bunch and then test the keif that collected. and then we will put that test number on our bags of cured bud. that would seem insanely misleading in my eyes, potentially illegal if you did that in any other company for any other product.

when testing for "bad" things that could potentially be in weed or other products in the consumer market. i believe in all instances these manipulations will be used to inflate or deflate numbers, making the numbers i read on the bag of weed i buy almost irrelevant.

i cant just help but to be the devils advocate 

bodhisatta said:

So ive read the upper limit due to biology should be around 30-35

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I've heard/read the same before as well ....

...I can't recall from specifically where or what, but I do have that in my memory from somewhere lol......Something saying something about the plant not actually being able to produce THC concentrations beyond that point (maxing out around 30% to 35%).

Even before some of the points brought up in this thread, that's one of the reasons I've always had my doubts when hearing #s up around and beyond 30%.






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Let’s focus on three numbers under the “Potency Analysis” of the above label: THC, THCA, and total THC. On this label, the THC level is 1.0%. Most labels will display a low number like this because the plant contains mostly THCA, which needs to be decarboxylated (“activated”) by heat. In this case, we see 23.2% for the THCA level.

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How much THC does your favorite cannabis product contain? The answer may not be as straightforward as reading the “total THC” number that is (hopefully) printed on the label. There is no official industry standard for calculating the total THC of a cannabis product, and different producers and testing facilities calculate it in different ways.

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According to Confidence Analytics, a state-certified laboratory in Washington, “there are no strong regulations in place about how cannabis chemicals are measured. However, HPLC has emerged as the dominant technique for measuring cannabinoids.” In other industries, there are specific guidelines on testing methods and settings for laboratory equipment.
This lack of regulation can lead to discrepancies in potency data and inaccurate cannabinoid data.

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HPLC detectors typically measure UV light absorbance, which can be associated with specific molecules. When the molecules reach the detector, their relative abundance is measured. Because different cannabinoids, like THC and CBD, travel at different speeds through the column, they will be detected at different times, allowing for characterization of the sample.

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bodhisatta said:

So ive read the upper limit due to biology should be around 30-35

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https://www.leafly.com/news/science-tech/peak-thc-cbd-levels-for-cannabis-strains
this link would seem to support your claim.
i am still skeptical to say the very least tho.. 35% of the buds mass being pure thc seems very unreasonable to me but who am i to argue with nick jikomes. i dont have a b.s. in genetics.
i feel irrational in my inability to accept the numbers, maybe im turning into alex jones
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Necropolis said:

Canada is full of wiggers and their weed isn't nearly as good as weed from Colorado or Oregon.

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lol thats the most ignorant thing ive read today so far!!! congrats

im so sick of people who think their region has better weed.. are you talking about outdoor grows? then perhaps
are you talking about the top notch indoor grown? then you dont know what you are talking about

and these so called "wiggers" as you call em lol they have a more dense population in canada then in specifically oregon and colorado? what about washington state and california? is CA and WA weed not as good grown indoors and weed in colorado and oregon grow indoors?

passifloracaerulea said:

I've smoked plenty of canadian weed. It was all shit, no sticky resin ever. I've been through pounds of shit weed from canada. Mexico grows better weed. Canada just doesn't have the weather for it. Summer lasts a week up there.

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passifloracaerulea said:

I've smoked plenty of canadian weed. It was all shit, no sticky resin ever. I've been through pounds of shit weed from canada. Mexico grows better weed. Canada just doesn't have the weather for it. Summer lasts a week up there.

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When was the last time? Also you realize people can grow indoors right? Just like everywhere else.

Top notch indoor is practically identical regardless of where it is grown, all the "my state has the best bud" BS is nonsense.

Prices and average quality certainly vary a lot place to place, but top/bottom quality are almost always comparably good or bad

musiclover420 said:

passifloracaerulea said:

I've smoked plenty of canadian weed. It was all shit, no sticky resin ever. I've been through pounds of shit weed from canada. Mexico grows better weed. Canada just doesn't have the weather for it. Summer lasts a week up there.

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When was the last time? Also you realize people can grow indoors right? Just like everywhere else.

Top notch indoor is practically identical regardless of where it is grown, all the "my state has the best bud" BS is nonsense.

Prices and average quality certainly vary a lot place to place, but top/bottom quality are almost always comparably good or bad

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exactly lol, if your smoking top tier then your smoking indoor thats it lol, doesnt matter if they have the "summers" for it...

this is why theres so much misinformation out there. but maybe i just dont know what im talking about then...

hes smoked a lot of "shit canadaian" weed tho. so that must me based on his anecdotal evidence, despite the logic of top tier weed being grown indoors where growers have full control over the climate because you are indoors. he knows they dont have the summers for it...

makes sense to me

musiclover420 said:

passifloracaerulea said:

I've smoked plenty of canadian weed. It was all shit, no sticky resin ever. I've been through pounds of shit weed from canada. Mexico grows better weed. Canada just doesn't have the weather for it. Summer lasts a week up there.

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When was the last time? Also you realize people can grow indoors right? Just like everywhere else.

Top notch indoor is practically identical regardless of where it is grown, all the "my state has the best bud" BS is nonsense.

Prices and average quality certainly vary a lot place to place, but top/bottom quality are almost always comparably good or bad

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passifloracaerulea said:

musiclover420 said:

passifloracaerulea said:

I've smoked plenty of canadian weed. It was all shit, no sticky resin ever. I've been through pounds of shit weed from canada. Mexico grows better weed. Canada just doesn't have the weather for it. Summer lasts a week up there.

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When was the last time? Also you realize people can grow indoors right? Just like everywhere else.

Top notch indoor is practically identical regardless of where it is grown, all the "my state has the best bud" BS is nonsense.

Prices and average quality certainly vary a lot place to place, but top/bottom quality are almost always comparably good or bad

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In canada it is still 1997.

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