Home | Community | Message Board


Avalon Magic Plants
Please support our sponsors.

Feedback and Administration >> Shroomery News Service

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Original Seeds Store Shop: Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 9 months, 13 days
Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down
    #2531091 - 04/06/04 12:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=594&e=1&u=/nm/20040406/hl_nm/dutch_cannabis_dc

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Tourists who flock to Amsterdam to smoke cannabis in its "coffee shops" without fear of prosecution may find their choice curtailed as part of a proposed review of liberal Dutch drug laws.

The Dutch government is considering a ban on the sale of highly potent strains of cannabis under the proposed review, cabinet sources said on Tuesday.

The center-right government in the Netherlands, where cannabis smokers can openly buy and smoke the drug in hundreds of government-regulated "coffee shops," is to discuss the proposed review in cabinet on Thursday.

The government wants to determine if hashish and marijuana with a very high content of Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), an active compound in cannabis, should be reclassified as "hard" rather than "soft" drugs, cabinet sources said.

The Netherlands, where customers can order a vast array of cannabis from coffee shop menus, has reportedly seen a steep rise in THC levels in Dutch-grown cannabis due to refined growing methods.

The government declined comment on reports it would consider banning the sale of Dutch grown "Nederwiet" with a high THC content under proposals in a so-called "Cannabis Letter" to parliament.

Some doctors say cannabis use increases the risk of depression and schizophrenia but its use has been widely tolerated by the Dutch for decades. Coffee shops are prohibited from selling "hard drugs" and are carefully monitored.

The Netherlands, the first country to legalise euthanasia, last year also became the first to make cannabis available as a prescription drug in pharmacies for chronically ill patients.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDieCommie

Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 29,017
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Seuss]
    #2531437 - 04/06/04 02:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That would suck....


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMetaShroom
菌类
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/02/02
Posts: 1,462
Loc: East Anglia UK
Last seen: 10 years, 4 months
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: DieCommie]
    #2531611 - 04/06/04 03:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, stuff with high THC levels is good because you need to smoke less of it to achieve the same effect, so there are fewer health risks from smoking.


--------------------
:sleepingcow:  :penguinmonkey: :blah:

JOIN MAPS -> www.MAPS.ORG


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 9 months, 13 days
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2531700 - 04/06/04 03:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I feel that the high THC level myth stems from the US. The large mass of voters in the US were smoking in the 60's and the government knows that their typical anti-cannabis hype won't work. It is hard to convince somebody that has smoked weed that it causes you to go insane and start shooting people. To rectify this problem, the government came up with a new lie... the weed your kids are smoking today is a thousand times more potent than the stuff you smoked in the sixties. That is why it causes you to go insane and start shooting people. Unfortunately, this lie is now starting to influence other counties... obviously the US government wouldn't lie, espeically not to it's own people.

And as MetaShroom pointed out... anybody that smokes cannabis knows that you smoke to a certain high and then stop. If you continue to smoke after you reach the sweet spot, the effects are not as enjoyable. I would much rather take one or two hits from a joint than to smoke two or three joints. Good, strong cannabis equates to less pollution put into the body.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Seuss]
    #2532082 - 04/06/04 05:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"The Netherlands, the first country to legalise euthanasia, last year also became the first to make cannabis available as a prescription drug in pharmacies for chronically ill patients. " (emphasis mine)

now why the hell would they phrase it like that?  :shake:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineLearyfan
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 30,281
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 7 hours, 40 minutes
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Seuss]
    #2532130 - 04/06/04 05:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I need to get to Amsterdam before they do something stupid.





--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month: Johnny Price- Marijuana, The Devil Flower



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinestefan
work in progress

Registered: 04/11/01
Posts: 8,932
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 days, 40 minutes
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Seuss]
    #2543719 - 04/09/04 03:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

today I read that they aren't doing anything because there's no proof that a highter thc level is more dangerous.
so that's good news :laugh:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibledaussaulit
Forgetful

Registered: 08/06/02
Posts: 2,894
Loc: Earth
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: stefan]
    #2544015 - 04/09/04 05:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

link?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAnnomM
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,366
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 days, 15 hours
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: daussaulit]
    #2555335 - 04/13/04 05:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

only dutch links....


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineLearyfan
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 30,281
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 7 hours, 40 minutes
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: stefan]
    #2556957 - 04/13/04 10:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

stefan said:
today I read that they aren't doing anything because there's no proof that a highter thc level is more dangerous.
so that's good news :laugh:




If you're right, then  :thumbup: :laugh: :smile: :headbang:




--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month: Johnny Price- Marijuana, The Devil Flower



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDreamer987
The VerbalHerman Munster
Female

Registered: 04/15/03
Posts: 5,326
Loc: Texas
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Learyfan]
    #2557203 - 04/14/04 12:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

awww! fix the run dude. God damb. waisten weed n shit


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehairs
old hand
Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 1,019
Last seen: 13 years, 27 days
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Dreamer987]
    #2568724 - 04/16/04 07:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Dreamer987 said:
awww! fix the run dude. God damb. waisten weed n shit




lol dood i was gonna say the same thing  :lol: :spliff: :lol:


--------------------
If I didn't have such a great drive (golf) the American people would thing I wasn't working so hard. George W. Bush


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDailyPot
Trip'n Time

Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 2,207
Loc: Florida
Last seen: 11 years, 8 months
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Seuss]
    #2574902 - 04/18/04 09:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

They probably have really crazy shit...even if they make it illegal not much will change.

I dunno for sure but it seems to me like the dutch get together to discuss things reasonable. Just because they're gonig to talk about it doesn't mean theres a good chance of it happening. Also I think there would be too many problems with them doing this, and too many arguements against it.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAnnomM
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,366
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 days, 15 hours
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: DailyPot]
    #2576669 - 04/19/04 04:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the dutch get together to discuss things reasonable. Just because they're gonig to talk about it doesn't mean theres a good chance of it happening.

True! The only great conservative (christian) political party(CDA) is against "drugs" only because of their beliefs. They started the discussion. The other governing parties, VVD and D66, are liberal/progressive(on a dutch way... nothing to do with the american "liberal"). They accepted the debate/research, but I'm sure they won't vote for a ban.

The government at the moment sucks, but the Dutch political system isn't the same as in the US. We have 6 major political parties. Non of them can govern alone. The christian party is losing support and I hope the next government is way better.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAnnomM
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,366
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 days, 15 hours
Re: Dutch Government to Weigh Cannabis Clamp Down [Re: Annom]
    #2615146 - 04/29/04 08:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Dutch experts have told the government that high THC levels aren't dangerous.

Here's the dutch article:

Quote:

Meerderheid deskundigen:

Nederwiet met veel THC is niet gevaarlijk


Door een onzer redacteuren


DEN HAAG, 26 APRIL. Wetenschappers en deskundigen op het gebied van drugs zijn verdeeld over de vraag of een verhoogd THC-gehalte (tetrahydrocannabinol) in nederwiet een verhoogd risico voor gebruik met zich meebrengt.


Een platform van deskundigen onder auspici?n van de Inspectie voor de volksgezondheid, het Co?rdinatiepunt Assessment en Monitoring nieuwe drugs (CAM) vindt van niet, zo schrijft het platform in een spoedprocedure aan het ministerie van Volksgezondheid. Het Criminologisch Instituut Bonger van de Universiteit van Amsterdam spreekt van een 'zorgelijke ontwikkeling'.

Stijging van het THC-gehalte in nederwiet was voor de ministers Hoogervorst (Volksgezondheid, VVD) en Donner (Justitie, CDA) aanleiding om in de vrijdag naar de Tweede Kamer gestuurde 'cannabisbrief' onderzoek aan te kondigen naar de schadelijkheid van nederwiet en om de softdrug op de lijst van verboden opiaten te plaatsen.

Uit de cannabisbrief blijkt dat beide adviserende instanties de vraag of dat verhoogde THC-gehalte schadelijk is voor de volksgezondheid niet hebben gebaseerd op wetenschappelijke conclusies. Volgens het co?rdinatiepunt heeft dat verhoogd THC-gehalte hoogstens voor onervaren gebruikers een 'licht verhoogd risico'. De afhankelijkheid kan toenemen, maar dat gaat niet op voor alle gebruikers.

Om dat THC-gehalte te reguleren staan ook andere opties open dan plaatsing op de verboden lijst, zo schrijven de ministers in een bijlage bij de brief. De 'sterkte' van nederwiet kan worden opgenomen in de gedoogcriteria voor coffeeshops of de coffeeshophouders kunnen gestimuleerd worden tot zelfregulering. De door de PvdA voorgestelde optie van regulering van teelt en distributie wordt in de brief opnieuw van de hand gewezen. Plaatsing op de lijst van verboden opiaten wordt in de brief omschreven als 'het uiterste geval'.

Een eerder door Donner voorgesteld verbod op verkoop vanuit coffeeshops aan buitenlanders in de grensstreek, wordt nu omschreven als onderzoek naar de vraag op welke wijze coffeeshophouders dat 'tot een minimum' kunnen terugbrengen. Een experiment in de gemeente Maastricht moet uitwijzen wat daarvoor de mogelijkheden zijn. Het terugdringen van coffeeshoptoerisme vindt het kabinet een taak voor lokale overheden. Als de toestroom van toeristen massaal blijft, kan dat een grond zijn om de vergunning in te trekken of nieuwe vergunningen te weigeren. Ook kan de klandizie verminderd worden door de openingstijden te beperken.




Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Original Seeds Store Shop: Cannabis Seeds

Feedback and Administration >> Shroomery News Service

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Dutch court allows cannabis cultivation for therapeutic use veggie 958 6 09/16/08 08:30 PM
by wireless
* Dutch get first cannabis pharmacy veggie 521 0 02/01/06 05:34 PM
by veggie
* Dutch Police hunt Cannabis Hemp growers with Canna Chopper OrganizedChaos 1,592 14 05/03/09 10:55 PM
by luckytriple6
* Dutch Judges: Legalise Cannabis veggie 1,071 6 10/08/08 12:29 PM
by IdeLOLogies
* Dutch government seeks to close cannabis 'grow shops' Bridgeburner 1,051 7 03/07/08 03:57 PM
by Jack_Straw
* Dutch city ponders ban on foreign pot smokers veggie 1,367 3 12/27/05 11:15 AM
by Ekstaza
* Dutch Prefer Cannabis Cafes to Pharmacies veggie 1,161 0 02/07/05 02:13 PM
by veggie
* Dutch take sober look at pot laws veggie 694 0 01/01/06 12:20 PM
by veggie

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: motaman, karode13, Alan Rockefeller, naum, Mostly_Harmless
1,635 topic views. 1 members, 7 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Avalon Magic Plants
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 16 queries.