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Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cannabis-genetic-biotech-patents-gmo-1.4854746

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Critics worry private companies will own genetic building blocks of life

Chris Arsenault · CBC News · Posted: Oct 13, 2018 4:00 AM ET

At the Hyasynth Biologicals laboratory in Montreal, scientists are working on the latest frontier in the cannabis business: genetically engineering the active ingredients in marijuana and then patenting them.

Hyasynth is part of a new wave of genetic engineering firms across Canada and the U.S., splicing and dicing molecules found in cannabis plants, hoping to create new recreational products and medicines to treat pain, cancers, insomnia, epilepsy and a host of other health problems.

Cannabis producers, biotech firms and drug companies, along with the law firms who represent them, say genetic engineering — a controversial technique pioneered in agriculture — will allow companies to patent genes synthesized from cannabis, potentially unlocking billions of dollars in new investment and creating jobs.

"Patenting a gene technically isn't any different from patenting anything else," said Erica Lowthers, a partner at Aird and McBurney, a Toronto law firm that advises cannabis companies. The process "encourages innovation" and investment by protecting intellectual property with a 20-year monopoly for new creations, she added.

Critics, however, worry patents on cannabis genes allow a small group of private companies to control the building blocks of life itself, along with concerns about possibly negative impacts of the newly created genetic material.

"Companies are using genetic sequences taken from natural cannabis strains, altering them and building a product that will eventually disrupt natural markets in cannabis," said Jim Thomas, a spokesperson for Val-David, Que.-based technology watchdog the ETC Group.

"Growers, farmers, breeders will become less and less relevant if these biotech companies take over the market," he said, referring to the patenting as "bio piracy" that allows corporations to privatize material from a crop cultivated by small farmers for generations.

How it works
The process for creating genetically altered versions of the chemicals found in cannabis — known as cannabinoids — doesn't actually involve changing the plant itself.

Instead, scientists at Hyasynth Bio genetically alter fermented yeast —  a process comparable to creating synthetic perfume from chemicals contained inside flowers — to construct copies of the DNA strands found in cannabis. The yeast acts like a small factory to produce cannabinoids in the lab.

THC and CBD are the two most famous cannabinoids, but the cannabis plant contains more than 90 different chemicals, many of which have barely been studied. Scientists can engineer the genetic material created from the yeast to exhibit specific properties — such as a medicine that is virtually pure CBD.

"Our strains of yeast are genetically modified, but the products we sell are not GMOs [genetically modified organisms]," said Kevin Chen, co-founder and chief executive of Hyasynth, a Montreal startup run by young scientists.

Far cheaper
An observer wouldn't find any cannabis plants or growing equipment in their facility. Instead, the company's operations look like a cross between a traditional science lab and a "fancy" microbrewery, with large tanks containing yeast used in the genetic modification process, Chen said.

That process for producing THC, CBD and other cannabinoids in a lab is far cheaper and more efficient than growing plants, he said.

Hyasynth signed a deal worth $10 million with licensed cannabis producer Organigram last month for the large-scale production of cannabinoids, and it has two international patents pending, Chen said. He didn't elaborate, citing commercial confidentiality.

As for concerns over so-called bio piracy, Chen said it's an "interesting question." Patents can get companies more money to invest in new technology, he said, but there should also be space in the market for the free flow of genetic ideas around cannabis.

"In this industry, we will see both of those things."

Patents already in play
In Canada, higher life forms, including cannabis plants themselves, cannot be patented, said Hans Parmar, a spokesperson for Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada, the federal department working on the cannabis file.

Patent protection is, however, available for "genetically modified cannabis plant cells" and "novel isolated genes that produce cannabis active ingredients," he said.

"Transgenic" organisms contain genetic material from an unrelated life form that has been artificially inserted into their DNA.

Companies have already obtained patents for a transgenic cannabis plant that enhances seed yields and growth and a transgenic hemp plan that's more salt tolerant, according to government data provided to CBC News.

Other patents are pending for new genetic alterations to cannabis, including:

A transgenic hemp product that increases pest resistance in plants.
A heat-resistant, transgenic cannabis plant.
Drought-tolerant cannabis plants.
A transgenic cannabis cell that alters how the cannabis plant produces polyunsaturated fatty acids.
"We have seen so much activity in the past year," Michelin Gravelle, a managing partner with Bereskin Parr LLC, a Toronto law firm working on cannabis, said of the moves to patent cannabis genes and related technology.

She estimates requests from cannabis clients seeking advice on intellectual property have doubled in the past 12 months.

Companies vying for dominance
As genetic modification in the Canadian cannabis industry is still new, a market leader hasn't yet been established, according to New Frontier Data, a U.S.-based cannabis research firm.

"Many of these companies remain quite young, and their portfolio of IP [intellectual property] assets remains low," said John Kagia, a market analyst with New Frontier.

So far, pharmaceutical companies and biochemical companies hold most Canadian cannabis patents, he said, although many of these are for technical processes for extracting and processing the chemicals in cannabis, rather than for specific genes.

Because cannabis has been illicit for so long, companies hadn't actively been pursuing intellectual property claims in the sector, he said, although the race is now rapidly intensifying today.

"The cannabis industry is poised for a dramatic acceleration in innovation and technology-based advancement to make the industry more efficient, transparent and meeting the client needs," he said. "The companies that establish the most robust IP will be best positioned to compete in the hyper-competitive environment."

Cronos Group, another Canadian cannabis company, signed a $122 million deal with Boston-based Ginko Bioworks Inc. last month to genetically engineer the active compounds or cannabinoids found in the cannabis plant, in a yeast-based process similar to what Hyasynth is using. 

"Together we revolutionize the cannabis industry," Cronos Group's chief executive Mike Gorenstein said in a statement.

GMO skeptics
Other cannabis companies aren't so keen on the genetic engineering revolution. Bruce Linton, chief executive of Canopy Growth, one of Canada's largest cannabis firms, told CBC his company has meet with half a dozen biotech experts who pitched them on genetic modification, but Canopy has stayed away from the technology.

"Our checklist includes not having a GMO as the base" of a product, Linton said.

With the industry just moving away from prohibition, throwing genetically altered cannabis strains into the mix is just a bridge too far for consumers right now, Linton said.

"People trust the plant as a source," he said, while they might not be as comfortable with a product originating in a lab with genetically modified yeast. 

Canopy is still interested in isolating particular cannabinoids from the cannabis plant in order to make new medicines to combat problems like insomnia, and other products like cannabis-infused drinks, Linton said.

But the firm is searching for those molecules through traditional plant breeding, rather than cultivating cannabinoids in a lab with genetically modified yeast.

Valued at more than $12 billion, Canopy is part of the new wave of cannabis giants, a far cry from the hippies and "anti-corporate types" with whom the crop was long associated, Thomas from the ETC Group said.

"This [genetic modification] technology is going to speed up the transfer to a very corporate controlled industry," Thomas said.

"Cannabis is going to be like any other commodity controlled by large technology players and agribusiness. It's where this is headed."




SAJLMFAO I brew wine and grow pot but soon I might just brew both eh. :rolleyes:

Seriously this is just a way of legally patenting their brand, cannabis plants as of today can not be patented regardless of who bred them.

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: rider420] * 1
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Boycott this bullshit by purchasing cannabis seeds that are non-gmo and doing a better job than these idiots that don't understand what makes cannabis valuable.

Look at it this way, why stop brewing your own wine and growing your own marijuana,

WHEN YOU ARE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN THE  PHARMA INDUSTRY, THE GOVERNMENT, AND  THEIR CARTELS. THEY HAVE TO HAVE METH COOKS "BREW" WEED BECUASE HOMEGROWERS ARE TAKING AWAY THE GOVERNMENTS POWER.
(Its like corn. Monsanto vs corn you get from an actual grower. Both will ALWAYS be around. It's our job to pick the CORRECT ones.)
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, FELLOW EARTHKINGS.

"If it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right."
-Hunter Thompson

Edited by FractalMind (10/14/18 12:10 PM)

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: FractalMind] * 2
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FractalMind said:
Boycott this bullshit by purchasing cannabis seeds that are non-gmo and doing a better job than these idiots that don't understand what makes cannabis valuable.

Look at it this way, why stop brewing your own wine and growing your own marijuana,

WHEN YOU ARE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN THE  PHARMA INDUSTRY, THE GOVERNMENT, AND  THEIR CARTELS. THEY HAVE TO HAVE METH COOKS "BREW" WEED BECUASE HOMEGROWERS ARE TAKING AWAY THE GOVERNMENTS POWER.
(Its like corn. Monsanto vs corn you get from an actual grower. Both will ALWAYS be around. It's our job to pick the CORRECT ones.)
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, FELLOW EARTHKINGS.

"If it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right."
-Hunter Thompson



Love this right here

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Deadhead410]
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You shouldn't be able to put a patent on an organism. Monsanto has done this before with round up resistant crops.


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: searching]
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meh I don't think our cannabis plants would mind too much

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Konyap]
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It's going to be interesting to see Cannabis become subjected to the corporate business model here in Canada over the next few years, as companies attempt to shape a long-standing culture and industry to their own definitions and devices for profit and control.

Glad to see progress on the legalization front but there's going to be a lot to dislike when it comes to the current proposed government-regulated model.


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: locospacebean]
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Jeez, might as well start patenting rc's, and i bet they actually do. And thats actually possibly more lucrative to a pharm company than patenting a marijuana compound. What they sell are no different from RC's with govt approval

Theyre gonna come out with some weird super cannabis, like spice/K2 but "natural" lol

Im not really a fan of this sort of thing. I find it a bit disturbing


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Fractal420]
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Save your seeds people! I have a bunch of seeds in little baggies I need to dig out. I always thought if they would just make it legal to grow your own weed I'll be happy. Getting a greenhouse next spring!


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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It seems most people here have ADHD. They're not modifying the plants themselves according to the article. They're taking snippets of the genetic code from the plants and putting it into yeast. Gene transfer is naturally occurring though, meaning that if the yeast gets loose, it could theoretically contaminate other forms of yeast.

There's a huge amount of profit to be made doing this. If the yeast could produce the entire terpene/cannabinoid profile, think about how much time it would save to produce "shatter" or some other cannabis extract/product.

I don't think they should be playing god like this, but imagine getting hold of one of these strains of yeast that produces THC. Yeast grows super fast, or at least certain strains do.

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Necropolis]
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and "novel isolated genes that produce cannabis active ingredients," he said.



This worries me, so are they saying a company can patent the genes that cause cannabis to produce THC/CBD?

Seems to conflict with this bit:

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As for concerns over so-called bio piracy, Chen said it's an "interesting question." Patents can get companies more money to invest in new technology, he said, but there should also be space in the market for the free flow of genetic ideas around cannabis.

"In this industry, we will see both of those things."



If companies are already patenting the genes to produce cannabinoids how will we see further innovation?

The one plus side is if they pull this off THC/CBD prices will drop down like crazy.

Imagine being able to grow a THC/CBD culture at home similarly to mushrooms. :strokebeard:

Will be crazy when we see genes modified to produce Synthetic Cannabinoids organically, we may even see a whole new group of semi synthetic modified cannabinoids grown organically via GMO plants...


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: musiclover420]
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It seems most people here have ADHD.



I sure do. Wanna fight about it? Lol, jk about that last part.

If you think GMOs are creepy, this is taking it one step further. "Slicing and dicing" i think "slashing and burning". Combing cannabis genetics for financial gain. This is definitely about the money. Theyre trying to "grow" opioids in the same way too, as some might remember from past articles. I mean, do you want future cannabis to be made of yeast? Maybe for some cheap thca or whatever. But not as a substitute for cannabis.

People are already domesticating and hybridizing cannabis like crazy. Whenever im away from the US, i realize other cannabis doesnt look like what basically every "dank" US bud looks like here. I mean theres a dank thread and if you really look, besides one being a little stronger etc, some being purple, All the buds people post across the country look pretty much the same.

Even just in Montreal, it looked, tasted, and smelled so different. Was prolly my fav bud from anything i ever smoked


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Necropolis]
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Necropolis said:
It seems most people here have ADHD. They're not modifying the plants themselves according to the article. They're taking snippets of the genetic code from the plants and putting it into yeast. Gene transfer is naturally occurring though, meaning that if the yeast gets loose, it could theoretically contaminate other forms of yeast.

There's a huge amount of profit to be made doing this. If the yeast could produce the entire terpene/cannabinoid profile, think about how much time it would save to produce "shatter" or some other cannabis extract/product.

I don't think they should be playing god like this, but imagine getting hold of one of these strains of yeast that produces THC. Yeast grows super fast, or at least certain strains do.




yeast and fermentation derived cannabinoids might have its pros and cons, but I think it leans towards having more pros... its easy to grow plants, but it might be way easier to get desirable medicinal compounds if you master such technology, might be more efficient also than waiting for the whole plant to grow flowers, you can easily reproduce the sought-after cannabinoids...


but thats just my 2 cents, there is so much joy tending your 1-acre grow plots manually, and its free to dream, :smile:


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: pablokabute]
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Again, this is not only being researched with cannabinoids, theyre trying to make morphine out of similar things like yeast. Would this way of making pharms be useful? Of course. But it would mean everything would become artificial. I guess thered still be real cannabis around, but im sure many extracts and all that would be made like this, which would be cheaper and thered be more of a profit motive. Im for progression of science, but would never want cannabis products to become artificial in this sense.

:shrug: lets hope the future holds good things


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: Fractal420]
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but im sure many extracts and all that would be made like this, which would be cheaper and thered be more of a profit motive. Im for progression of science, but would never want cannabis products to become artificial in this sense.



I don't see that happening for mainly one reason. People want more then just THC/CBD in their extracts.

It would make sense to see most pure CBD/THC farmed from yeast eventually, but making traditional extracts doesn't seem as worth it.

What will end up happening is people "enhancing" extracts with pure CBD/THC farmed in this manner. But that doesn't seem bad necessarily, 99% pure CBD or THC should be the same if it's from cannabis or modified yeast.

In the end it will bring prices down and make cannabinoids more available for people who need them :shrug:


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: musiclover420]
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I'd be amazed if they successfully transferred the entire biosynthetic pathway for THC/CBD into yeast. Not only that but they claim it's cheaper and more efficient than growing weed. Seems more likely they feed the transgenic yeast a precursor which it converts to THC.


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: olson]
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olson said:
I'd be amazed if they successfully transferred the entire biosynthetic pathway for THC/CBD into yeast. Not only that but they claim it's cheaper and more efficient than growing weed. Seems more likely they feed the transgenic yeast a precursor which it converts to THC.



That is an interesting thought. It brings up some other cool possibilities too, like modifying the yeast to take THC/CBD and alter it into more potent forms.

As both become more common this could be a great way to get some of the less common cannabinoids that are derived from THC/CBD.


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: olson] * 1
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I really doubt they are trying to mimic the entire metabolic pathway for THC synthesis.
http://www.medicinalgenomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fitoshi_Taura.pdf

Seems like they just add cannabigerolic acid to the transgenic yeast supernatant which gets converted by the THCA synthase.  I still don't see how this can be cheaper than growing marijuana though.  Growing plants doesn't really cost very much...  Though I guess if they were able to make the enzyme cheap enough and the precursor is cheap maybe it could be.


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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said:
I really doubt they are trying to mimic the entire metabolic pathway for THC synthesis.
http://www.medicinalgenomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fitoshi_Taura.pdf

Seems like they just add cannabigerolic acid to the transgenic yeast supernatant which gets converted by the THCA synthase.  I still don't see how this can be cheaper than growing marijuana though.  Growing plants doesn't really cost very much...  Though I guess if they were able to make the enzyme cheap enough and the precursor is cheap maybe it could be.



Getting pure THC/CBD from cannabis in a fairly long process, you have to grow the plant which takes time, then process it which takes equipment, etc.

Growing a culture that produces pure THC would be much more cost effective, even if the cultures take time to grow as well it would be easier to grow a large volume and would take up less space.

Look at the price for pure THC crystals, they cost so much because extracting them from cannabis takes some solid chemistry skills and lots of equipment. Extracting THC from yeast would probably be much simpler.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: rider420]
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IF U ARE OPPOSED TO GMO'S, U ARE STUPID! We ourselves a accumulation of gene modifications and deletions! Its obvious GMO;s are promising and beneficial! Call me a troll lol

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Re: Investors rush to patent genetically modified cannabis molecules [Re: MikeTesserect]
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FractalMind said:
Boycott this bullshit by purchasing cannabis seeds that are non-gmo and doing a better job than these idiots that don't understand what makes cannabis valuable.



There are no GMO Cannabis seeds.

searching said:
You shouldn't be able to put a patent on an organism. Monsanto has done this before with round up resistant crops.




I think if you do the work to create something, you should be able to have some legal protection against someone stealing all your work and selling it, basically ripping off the scientists who put in the time to make it.

tyrannicalrex said:
Save your seeds people! I have a bunch of seeds in little baggies I need to dig out. I always thought if they would just make it legal to grow your own weed I'll be happy. Getting a greenhouse next spring!



This has nothing to do with seeds.  This article is about taking the DNA that codes for cannabinoids and putting it into yeast so you can turn sugar water into CBD for example, in a large bioreactor.

Won't be long before biohackers do the same thing and you'll be able to brew up all sorts of cannabinoids at home. 



MikeTesserect said:
IF U ARE OPPOSED TO GMO'S, U ARE STUPID! We ourselves a accumulation of gene modifications and deletions! Its obvious GMO;s are promising and beneficial! Call me a troll lol



I know, but convincing pot farmers of this isn't going to be easy.

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