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STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION * 4
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Moderator X  said:
Its when people have real world health issues such as depression, suicide, or cancer, and the madcap advice they get is to tell people to NOT go to doctors and to go to church.  Some people actually do believe that salt rocks and yoga will heal their cancer and IMO, with the whole idea behind the shroomery being to 'stop the spread of misinformation' I feel like we should push back a little harder to prevent possible harm.  I'm highly concerned when we have people coming in who are on severe psychological drugs for things like schizophrenia that he will convince an already "crazy" person with a high tendency to stop taking meds without anyone's encouragement, to fully do so.




Moderator X touches the core of the issue here.

We are not just about stopping the spread of misinformation (anti Fake News 20 years before it was cool!) but we are about stopping the spread of DANGEROUS misinformation.

We are a HARM REDUCTION website.

Listen up, if I in a MXE binge have a conversation with the common cold, or, I dunno, bless a cup of coffee, all that is cool beans, the ones of us not afraid to let go do these kinds of things when we trip, or meditate, or dream out loud, or both.

I am however, no matter how highly intoxicated I am, fully aware of the absurdity of what I do and I don't engage in dangerous activities or moreover, put pressure on people to engage in dangerous activities.

Its COMPLETELY irresponsible and CANNOT be condoned that people who are suicidal are advised to Just Do It, or that angsty teens with eating disorders get guilt tripped, abuse victims ridiculed or people with mental illnesses encouraged to stop visiting their doctor or stop taking the medications that keep them from being hospitalized or from committing dastardly deeds.

There are lots of people who are not particularly wired to tell right from wrong such as with morally impaired personality structores, or even in cxase of psychosis, to be able to tell shit from shinola.

Social media are increasingly falling pray to what I refer to aa the "baking soda mafia", which is people and memes that push utter nonsense like that an apple cider vinegar and baking soda enema will cure 99% of all cancer.

A great problem of this time is that any fool can convince hordes of people into believing the greatest possible BS.

Many people ;like myself are going on a journey of exploring an alternate reality narrative, but are doing so with a solid foundation of having understood consensus reality initimately, and who consciously stray off the path, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY AWARE that they are entertaining to an alternate narrative -- and not accepting it as gospel truth but as a line of thought they entertain alongside their understanding of consensus reality.

Its OK to teach yourself to speak in tongues, but you gotta remember that our ability to make it in society is vested in your ability to remain intelligable in the common language, not the gobbledygook.

We cannot have people incite others who are vulnerable, or judgement impaired, to take great chances like commit suicide, get off meds or quit treatments against medical advice, suggest people in jest that they shoot up their campus or all that other wankery like spooking people who are going through bad trips or egging them on to "double the dose" when on one they cant handle in the first place.

Not just is it possibly illegal, its immoral, unethical, and it makes the Shroomery less dependable as a crutch to rely on for our members when they are vulnerable and in need.

The old world order is crumbling. People are looking for a new narrative
because the old narrative is either flat out lying to them or ill prepares them for a future where the crazy train of society acellerates beyond bullet train velosities to either a complete trainwreck or a miracle of science and technology.

We got to be there for each other.

We got to cover each others backs.

We are our brother's keeper AND should encourage them towards independence and selfreliance.

We got to STOP the dangerous misinformation when it occurs on our site.

If p[eople are on the verge of taking OD's or taking potentialy dangerous choices, MAKE THEM ER ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

Don't tell them to throw away their Seroquel and give Jesus a try because you don't know the person you recommend it to, or the exact ins and outs of their condition. They may be on the berge of hospitalisation, of suicide or molesting the neighbor's kid. We dont KNOW the problem people have and the extent to which they can get help.

In this time of increasing Fake News, let us try keep us other stay safe and sane and ,make decisions with their best interest and th4e greater good in mind.

The Shroomery has a fairly sizable cemetary of members we lost, and a far larger group of memers whos lives we saved, blatantly directly or indirectly, by heling them get help or make thye best of the situation beyond their own capacity.

We will absolutely ban your ass forever if you deliberately monkeywrench situations to bring them to harm, or if your narrative generates more harm than good by a decisive margin in those aroumnd you.

Some people need Jesus, some people need Haldol, but you are not their priest nor their psychiatrist.

Help each other, get actively involved when it goes wrong and TELL THE STAFF.

In an increasingly unhinged society and internet, where the old narrative is falling apart so that a new paradigm may get us all over the great divide between today and whjat tomorrow may bring, share the burden of helping each other safely across.

Be the change you want to see.

If it all goes to shit, mushrooms willl sprout from that shit and the ecosystem will recover from there.

Let the Shroomery be a bastion of goode sense and comraderie, in a time where brother turns against brother and unity in the understanding of the very fabric of reality is coming apart for many, in search for a new paradigm that is so direly needed on so many levels of society.

The kids today are going into debt to learn things that ain't worth dick in a few decades. Old people are no longer secure of their retirement and in between, confusion reigns.

Let our unity, our cohesion as a community, be our strenght.

Be good to one another, keep it safe, keep it on the rails and help one another.

Friends -- WE NEED BOTH HANDS TO RIDE THIS CRAZY TRAIN.

We need the Left AND the Right hand on the wheel. Democrats, Republicans and everything inbetween and outside of it. We need all hands on deck. We need to take care of ourselves, our immediate needs, and those of those around us, for the times ahead.

Those of us who will make it, will make it together not despite their differences, but by combining our differences as an unified strength of many specializations. We're all good at something, let's do that something together, for all of us.

Shrooms are about sharing the abundance and helping each other through bad trips.

Friends, lets get high, and lets get sober.

There ois work to do for us in both worlds.

STOP THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION and that includes antagonisic and deliberately misleading or unhinging behaviors.


I love you all :heart:


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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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I wanna get high!


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I have considered such matters.

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Cherk]
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Cherk said:
I wanna get high!






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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante] * 2
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"The old world order is crumbling. People are looking for a new narrative"

Reptilian! :crankey:

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: larry.fisherman]
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XLCaps said:
"The old world order is crumbling. People are looking for a new narrative"

Reptilian! :crankey:







We obviously need a new narrative on many levels though, or the children of our children will have to live in biodomes because the good earth has become uninhabitable.

Theres also deliberate salting of the Internet by governments and organisations to effect societal collapse in competitive nations, to get ahead themselves. Yes you can call that conspiraty taklk but as you know its being discussed up to the highest level of government so, sometimes conspiracy theories turn out to be conspiracy facts.

Lets keep it cool.


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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said:
What would you do in this thread?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25431206




Action was taken to protect the sensitive physical & mental health forum from well intentioned but potentially destructive advice.


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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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I missed that part, looks like a cluster fuck to me.

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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I think this should include advising depressed people to microdose


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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TheFakeSunRa said:
I think this should include advising depressed people to microdose



works wonders for me  :shrug:


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Only hope can give rise to the emotion we call despair. But it is nearly impossible for a man to try to live without hope, so I guess that leaves Man no choice but to walk around with despair as his companion.

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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This issue is a great reason to have a guy like pris#1 around

But man I know it weighs on your conscience man and you believe you've got this grand weight on your shoulders to save the world but the good guys don't always win

Its difficult for people to empathize with others in real life as it is, in turn the internet is even colder

I read those posts and that forum and if I say something I try and be honestly helpful because yea it's fucked up what some shit for brains can tell a suicidal crazy to stop their medication and keep it a secret from mom n dad

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: stzacrack]
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stzacrack said:
This issue is a great reason to have a guy like pris#1 around




Prisoner#1 painted himself into a corner where he sincerely believed there was asome sort of communist conspiracy by me an the hippie mods to stifle his right to continuously defend the right of the police to shoot any black face they saw, or whatever the fuck the deal was, and that I had abused my admin privileges to change his password - while he could change his password manually himself, could have any admin (including me!!) do it, ask any mod to do it or heck, ask any of his buddies to ask any of the mods to ask any of the admins to do it, from the darkweb behind a VPN or whatever measure he felt necessary.

On all leves we made it clear that he is welcome to return and that if he felt up to it hes welcome to the mod position again and from all directions that what he allege happened, did not happen.

He painted himself in a corner and when the paint is dry and the fumes have dissapated hes gonna walk across the fresh new paintjob and either return as a mod, member or do something else.

Don't overly romanticize Prisoner#1 and the effects he had on the site dynamics. The former day Pris was an asset beyond measure but the latter day Pris had to go, and went under cover of a paranoid accusation of a staff conspiracy that just wasnt there.

The paint has to dry and he can then return if he wants.

No hard feelings from me for all the accusations, his 200,000 posts hurt his head somewhere along the line, I think he simply chose to LIVE and is having a great time shooting the .50 BMG with an awesome chick on his extensive property with a custom made ladder if he needs to change the roof shingles for Elon Musk's solar tiles for the storm that he sees coming, and I see coming, from the right and left alike.

Come right back if you read this and see the sense in it and in being part of us as we lead our flock through the wilderness of these highly confusing times, Prisoner#1


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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante] * 1
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I had to remove him from facebook friend status because of that same shit.  I've known pris since this site was in its infancy, we've loaned each other money during hard times, and he used to be good peeps, but somewhere in the last few years he seemed to tip over the edge from playing the devils advocate funny troll to either believing the shit or just not understanding where the line is between devils advocate and being an asshole to your friends is.  I unfriend very few people, rarely block them, but felt it was required in this case.  It was too the point where it became a science denier level of BS, far beyond just political opinion and shit. 

Much sad, very tears, bye fren


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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Dang.

So what's up with Shroomism. He was getting kind of weird last time I was here.


Is he ok?

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I talk to him on bookface on the regular.  He's fine.  He has an awesome wife and a gorgeous kid.  He definitely is swinging more to the right politically but that's nothing to be scared of.  I think people who are more right wing oriented tend to get a lot of flack here and it can easily lead to defensive stances on shit.  I know I've argued with him a few times on some political facebook posts I've made and I'm centrist and hate both sides :laugh:

I don't think anyone needs to worry about him though.  Our current politics in this country seem to be causing a lot of rifts between friendships.  It's a sad state of things these days.

Also

ASANTE READ YOUR DAMN PM FROM ME :crankey: :heartpump:


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: mndfreeze]
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Wearing uniforms can get weird, sometimes. I think a lot of people here have put a lot of time and energy into their uniforms.

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I couldn't agree more.  Which makes me wonder, how old is that sig image?  I've had them turned off for so over a decade an now I wonder if between you, me and enlil we would fully have the hitler motif covered for OTD mods :laugh: haha


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: mndfreeze]
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Sig image, or avatar?

The avatar is easily 15 years old. I originally made it as an Easter avatar, but decided to keep it. The sig image is a few months old. I was going to have it age, fade, crack and fall apart like a real forgotten campaign sign, but I'm just so busy with work and shit.

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Asante]
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Great post big fella. I'd vote for you. But nah admirable aspirations right there :grin:

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Re: STOPPING THE SPREAD OF DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Yeah I meant the hitler for OTD mod sig.  I know the avatar is old.

It's too bad we don't have more OTD people.  Between you, me, and enlil we would have the hitler motif on lockdown.

I find theme is very important.


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Nothing says love like grannies prolapsed anus!

quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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