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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: twighead]
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Name 1 time in history post 1490s that Venezuela wasn't completely fucked.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I had a bunch of friends when I was a kid who were children of diplomats. Israeli. Japanese. British. It definitely exposed me to a lot of different cultures. It always sucked when governments changed and my friends went back to their home countries.

I really feel that people who are the most judgmental about immigrants are the least exposed to people from other places.



Well it depends on the places, those are all stable places with strong cultures who have structured there societies in ways to consistently produce law abiding well adjusted people in fairly good ratios. There are a lot of places where that is the case but there are unfortunately also several places where that is not the case.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
xzylocybin said:
twighead said:
Anyone who brings up Venezuela as being in some way remotely relevant to any potential economic/political outcomes or situations in America loses any and all credibility regarding said debate instantly :lol:



Just because you said so?



Because there are 0 parallels between the US and Venezuela? Have you studied at all the histories of the respective countries for even a second?



So you don't see any parallels between what is happening here and what happened there a few decades ago?

A 2 party system where both party's steadily lost the publics faith and became corrupt?

Followed by sever debt and poverty due to all the corrupt politics...

The only part that seems different is they ended up in a shitty democracy after a dictatorship. We seem to be heading towards a dictatorship from a shitty democracy :lol:

(I really hope I am wrong)


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: musiclover420]
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Not at all really -

On one hand, you have the US - an unfathomably powerful country that is incredibly diverse in its economics which has experienced prosperous growth for the majority of its existence. There may be deep corruption rife in the current administration - there may be divides in the nation - and there have been in the past - but this country has never truly "failed" ... in the truest sense of the word. The platform the government is built on may be in need of significant reform - but it is still relatively stable. There will be a reckoning for all that is happening here.

On the other hand - you have Venezuela... A country built upon nothing but the rape of its natural resources and almost at all nothing more for hundreds of years. It's governments have failed over and over, decade after decade and never prospered - nary has there been a period longer than 30 years of stability - one dictator to the next ... revolution, rebellion - continuous. One single resource in its modern history - oil has fueled all politics and power, it's that single tipping point which makes all stability an impossibility unless rule was set up with the purest intention and delicacy.

I see no differences.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: twighead]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

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but this country has never truly "failed"



So what would you call the war on drugs exactly? :rofldrunk:


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: musiclover420]
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There are failures, and there are ----FAILURES---- (as I said, in the truest sense of the word) ... has the drug war seen the entire country become a poverty war-stricken nation for 400 years?

It's not that it can't happen here, it's that if you're going to look for examples of how it may take place, Venezuela is one of the least relevant possible.

My opinion is that it won't. Not that it can't.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: twighead]
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has the drug war seen the entire country become a poverty war-stricken nation for 400 years?



If we continue it for 400 more years we may very well end up seeing that... We won't live to see it as individuals sure, but things will just get worse and worse assuming prohibition doesn't end.

So I would definitely call it a failure, it doesn't need to be a HUGE FAILURE to be a failure. I'm sure there are a lot of other examples if we'd look for them.

I am not trying to say Venezuela is super relevant, and I'm sure there are better comparisons. That is just one of them I have seen around lately that seems worth discussing.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: musiclover420]
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We won't though. The undoing of it is all around us. We might be witnessing the final pathetic attempt at 'drug war' as far as I'm concerned :lol:.

Venezuela is a hype country used by fox newsers to faux-discredit policies which benefit people over corporations.

They're just one of 80+ failed states across the globe, their stylism of rule is irrelevant - the underlying causes are much more poignant.

What does every single one of all of these failed nations have in common?

They've all been raped by imperialism then left as rotting corpses for despots to fight over.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
And this is why conversations with the left always go nowhere. They just want to break it all down to slander, insults and identity politics.
I don't think I've had a single interaction with you in the past year where you haven't thrown some underhanded insult into it out of nowhere. Even when I'm trying to be cordial.
Who cares what the facts are when you can just blindly insult your opponents and throw blanket assumptions at them and hope they stick





hey buddy, fuck you.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: mndfreeze]
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How many mooches in a smootch? :lol:


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: musiclover420]
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I don't kiss and tell but shroomism probably does.  He's kind of a whore like that sometimes.

but I still luff him so.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Shroomism] * 4
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Shroomism recounts a violent assault he faced on the beach due to his race and his frustration with societal victim-blaming. He shares a previous incident where his neo-Nazi friends violently attacked someone with an Antifa sticker. Shroomism defends his friends, claiming they are against neo-Nazis, but acknowledges their association with the 211 Crew, a known neo-Nazi group. He questions the appropriateness of their violent response to perceived insults and their association with known white supremacist groups.

Shroomism said:
I've always been against this. Only it's become even more distilled in the last few years.

The straw that broke the camel's back for me, was when I was physically assaulted on the beach by some Antifa/SJWs because I was white, while with my 3 year old son.

Who's creating hysteria???? I'm fucking sorry, but when someone is minding their own fucking business, and they get violently attacked because of the color of their skin or whatever, and society at large just goes "OH well you shouldn't have been there.. or you are the one provoking it.. or if you don't respond then it wouldn't get out of control like this" FUCK THAT victim blaming bullshit. The shit is out of control, I don't really care if half of you haven't seen it firsthand, I have. I will fight this shit until it's dead or I am.



I've been trying to keep politics out of the pub, as per the wishes of the community, but you made this thread and your hypocrisy is too much to let pass. The rally Shroomism refers to as his final straw occurred on March 25, 2017.

Here are some posts by Shroomism, made over a month earlier, where he is celebrating a violent assault perpetrated by his friends in NY (who also happen to be neo-nazis) against an individual with an antifa sticker:


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24086540#24086540
shivas.wisdom said:
Shroomism said:
Antifa punks tried messing with my actual punk friends last night. They got their asses handed to them and called the cops :lol: fucking hilarious







Found your friends, 211 Crew Neo-nazis. Antifa is bad, but this is the company you keep? http://nypost.com/2017/02/12/neo-nazis-beat-up-brothers-over-anti-fascist-sticker-cops/

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Officers in an undercover police car that happened to be driving by spotted the two bloodied men standing on the sidewalk while trying to call 911 and asked them what was going on.

They were able to point out one of the suspects lingering around the scene and police quickly grabbed him.

He was identified as 29-year-old John Young and was charged with assault, grand larceny, menacing, criminal mischief, and possession of a weapon, cops said.



Shroomism's nazi friend:
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All is well besides Johnny Younger being in jail.









https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24126725#24126725
shivas.wisdom said:
Shroomism said:
Nah I know these guys very well. They hate neo-nazis and that will never change, they are also some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Unless you fuck with them. To them, the Antifa were the fascists.



Nice people don't send someone to the hospital over insults. You yourself have claimed the altercation started when antifa called your friends nazis; your friends took offense to that and decided a violent beat down was appropriate.

What happened to your defence of free speech and the right to offend? Do you not notice a double standard between your condemnation of Milo protests and your support of attacking antifascists over words, that kinda makes it look like you have fascist sympathies?



Shroomism said:
Also they are not associated with 211 crew. That article is disingenuous because it says "a group of men described as "neo Nazis" attacked twin brothers" ... who described them as neo Nazis? Oh right the Antifa guys who showed up calling them neo nazis.
It's all conjecture and blind labeling. Also they lie about how it went down.



All conjecture? The man who threw the party at Clockwork that night is Matt Retuccia, known to NYC antifa for several years now and a member of 211 crew. Pictured below, you see him front and center sporting the 'skullhead' tee (one of the most popular white power punk bands) hanging out with known neo-nazi skinheads (like Pat Fahey, third from the left, member of the Vinlanders Social Club).




So I don't think the neo-nazi presence at Clockwork that night is worth disputing, but the question still remains: were your friends aware of this gathering or just some punks at the wrong spot//wrong time?

You have said multiple times that your friends are old school antiracist and antifascist oi punks that don't tolerate hate, so what the fuck are they doing hanging out with 211 crew? If they're hanging out with neo-nazis and they're fighting antifascists, don't be surprised when people accuse them of being violent fascists.





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24125171#24125171
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I'm going to weigh in on this whole neo-nazis friends thing, as I'm the one who first levied the accusation at you.

To begin, here is the statement from Clockwork regarding the fight: http://evgrieve.com/2017/02/clockwork-bar-denounces-weekend-attack.html
It appears to corroborate the description found in various news articles rather than the one supplied by your friends.

Now, we both agree that your friends, based in DC, made the trip up to Clockwork in NYC that night. Why make the journey though? What was happening at Clockwork that night? Well, it just so happens that Matt Restuccia, lead singer of the patriotic oi band Lonewolf and a 211 member, was DJing an after-party at Clockwork that night.

(The facebook page has been taken down but the owner of Clockwork Bar, Frank Scutto, is on record as saying "We’ve already banned Matt from coming here and his friends, and obviously with our statement, anyone else that’s a hate group or a neo-Nazi," he said, adding, "It's my fault that I didn’t know that he was aligned with these guys. All staff know he’s not welcome here, nor are his friends.")

Who are the 211 Bootboys? To quote one of their founders: "211 crew started in 1999 just a group of Skins who didn't give a fuck and hated commie scum like RASH [Red and Anarchist Skinheads]." In other words, another reboot of the RAC skinhead music scene.

The 211 Crew/211 Bootboys are a New York City and D.C.-area skinhead group. Rather than explicitly espousing Nazi or white supremacist ideology, bands that perform as part of the crew's oi punk scene emphasize ultra-nationalism and Islamophobia in their rhetoric and the lyrics, meaning white skinheads slam-dance alongside minorities who support some form of nationalism while also sometimes associating with outright neo-Nazis. This does not make them any less of a violent threat. Here is an article from the Southern Poverty Law Center that goes into greater detail of the many tentacled monster that is fascism.


I'm not calling you a nazi because of this, shroomism, but these people live on the opposite side of the country from you. You say you've known them for 20 years, when was the last time you spent quality time together? I understand that not all skinheads are neo-naizis, but even if your friends aren't explicitly part of the 211 Bootboys, they appear to be down with hanging out with the violent fascists to the extent that they happily join in with the beatdowns.

People change. Maybe your friends have big time, and so perhaps this is a time for you to decide where your ideals stand and call out your friends. As it stands now, hard to call yourself a free speech advocate when you are suggesting a trip to the hospital is the appropriate response to being called a nazi.





For those who would like to know more about Shroomism's friends, the Southern Poverty Law Centre has an entire article focusing on the 211 boot boys and the far-right skinhead culture they claim. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/27/nyc-oi-fest-returns-new-york-city-new-kind-hate



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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 3
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Auto-Summary
Shroomism expresses frustration with the increasing political violence on both sides of the political spectrum, specifically citing a violent assault on a white individual by Antifa/SJWs while with his 3-year-old son. He also discusses a previous incident involving his neo-Nazi friends violently attacking Antifa/SJWs over an antifa sticker. Shroomism questions the moral consistency of his friends, who are supposedly anti-fascist, hanging out with neo-Nazis and participating in violent beatdowns. The discussion also touches on the broader issue of far-right ideologies becoming more accepted within mainstream American politics, particularly among conservatives.

shivas.wisdom said:
Shroomism said:
I've always been against this. Only it's become even more distilled in the last few years.

The straw that broke the camel's back for me, was when I was physically assaulted on the beach by some Antifa/SJWs because I was white, while with my 3 year old son.

Who's creating hysteria???? I'm fucking sorry, but when someone is minding their own fucking business, and they get violently attacked because of the color of their skin or whatever, and society at large just goes "OH well you shouldn't have been there.. or you are the one provoking it.. or if you don't respond then it wouldn't get out of control like this" FUCK THAT victim blaming bullshit. The shit is out of control, I don't really care if half of you haven't seen it firsthand, I have. I will fight this shit until it's dead or I am.



I've been trying to keep politics out of the pub, as per the wishes of the community, but you made this thread and your hypocrisy is too much to let pass. The rally Shroomism refers to as his final straw occurred on March 25, 2017.

Here are some posts by Shroomism, made over a month earlier, where he is celebrating a violent assault perpetrated by his friends in NY (who also happen to be neo-nazis) against an individual with an antifa sticker:


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24086540#24086540
shivas.wisdom said:
Shroomism said:
Antifa punks tried messing with my actual punk friends last night. They got their asses handed to them and called the cops :lol: fucking hilarious







Found your friends, 211 Crew Neo-nazis. Antifa is bad, but this is the company you keep? http://nypost.com/2017/02/12/neo-nazis-beat-up-brothers-over-anti-fascist-sticker-cops/

Article:
Quote:
Officers in an undercover police car that happened to be driving by spotted the two bloodied men standing on the sidewalk while trying to call 911 and asked them what was going on.

They were able to point out one of the suspects lingering around the scene and police quickly grabbed him.

He was identified as 29-year-old John Young and was charged with assault, grand larceny, menacing, criminal mischief, and possession of a weapon, cops said.



Shroomism's nazi friend:
Quote:
All is well besides Johnny Younger being in jail.









https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24126725#24126725
shivas.wisdom said:
Shroomism said:
Nah I know these guys very well. They hate neo-nazis and that will never change, they are also some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Unless you fuck with them. To them, the Antifa were the fascists.



Nice people don't send someone to the hospital over insults. You yourself have claimed the altercation started when antifa called your friends nazis; your friends took offense to that and decided a violent beat down was appropriate.

What happened to your defence of free speech and the right to offend? Do you not notice a double standard between your condemnation of Milo protests and your support of attacking antifascists over words, that kinda makes it look like you have fascist sympathies?



Shroomism said:
Also they are not associated with 211 crew. That article is disingenuous because it says "a group of men described as "neo Nazis" attacked twin brothers" ... who described them as neo Nazis? Oh right the Antifa guys who showed up calling them neo nazis.
It's all conjecture and blind labeling. Also they lie about how it went down.



All conjecture? The man who threw the party at Clockwork that night is Matt Retuccia, known to NYC antifa for several years now and a member of 211 crew. Pictured below, you see him front and center sporting the 'skullhead' tee (one of the most popular white power punk bands) hanging out with known neo-nazi skinheads (like Pat Fahey, third from the left, member of the Vinlanders Social Club).




So I don't think the neo-nazi presence at Clockwork that night is worth disputing, but the question still remains: were your friends aware of this gathering or just some punks at the wrong spot//wrong time?

You have said multiple times that your friends are old school antiracist and antifascist oi punks that don't tolerate hate, so what the fuck are they doing hanging out with 211 crew? If they're hanging out with neo-nazis and they're fighting antifascists, don't be surprised when people accuse them of being violent fascists.





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24125171#24125171
shivas.wisdom said:
I'm going to weigh in on this whole neo-nazis friends thing, as I'm the one who first levied the accusation at you.

To begin, here is the statement from Clockwork regarding the fight: http://evgrieve.com/2017/02/clockwork-bar-denounces-weekend-attack.html
It appears to corroborate the description found in various news articles rather than the one supplied by your friends.

Now, we both agree that your friends, based in DC, made the trip up to Clockwork in NYC that night. Why make the journey though? What was happening at Clockwork that night? Well, it just so happens that Matt Restuccia, lead singer of the patriotic oi band Lonewolf and a 211 member, was DJing an after-party at Clockwork that night.

(The facebook page has been taken down but the owner of Clockwork Bar, Frank Scutto, is on record as saying "We’ve already banned Matt from coming here and his friends, and obviously with our statement, anyone else that’s a hate group or a neo-Nazi," he said, adding, "It's my fault that I didn’t know that he was aligned with these guys. All staff know he’s not welcome here, nor are his friends.")

Who are the 211 Bootboys? To quote one of their founders: "211 crew started in 1999 just a group of Skins who didn't give a fuck and hated commie scum like RASH [Red and Anarchist Skinheads]." In other words, another reboot of the RAC skinhead music scene.

The 211 Crew/211 Bootboys are a New York City and D.C.-area skinhead group. Rather than explicitly espousing Nazi or white supremacist ideology, bands that perform as part of the crew's oi punk scene emphasize ultra-nationalism and Islamophobia in their rhetoric and the lyrics, meaning white skinheads slam-dance alongside minorities who support some form of nationalism while also sometimes associating with outright neo-Nazis. This does not make them any less of a violent threat. Here is an article from the Southern Poverty Law Center that goes into greater detail of the many tentacled monster that is fascism.


I'm not calling you a nazi because of this, shroomism, but these people live on the opposite side of the country from you. You say you've known them for 20 years, when was the last time you spent quality time together? I understand that not all skinheads are neo-naizis, but even if your friends aren't explicitly part of the 211 Bootboys, they appear to be down with hanging out with the violent fascists to the extent that they happily join in with the beatdowns.

People change. Maybe your friends have big time, and so perhaps this is a time for you to decide where your ideals stand and call out your friends. As it stands now, hard to call yourself a free speech advocate when you are suggesting a trip to the hospital is the appropriate response to being called a nazi.





For those who would like to know more about Shroomism's friends, the Southern Poverty Law Centre has an entire article focusing on the 211 boot boys and the far-right skinhead culture they claim. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/27/nyc-oi-fest-returns-new-york-city-new-kind-hate









Thank you for taking the effort to shed this light and to deliver it without associated judgement tacked on regarding the nature of Shroomism's association.

As far as I now him, Shroomism is not a bad guy, he just seems to be swept up in the wave of propaganda fueled mayhem that is coming over America as it digs trenches and rolls out the barbed wire in preparation for the big ideological showdown that is inevitably happening, the one where the "bigoted right" will strongarm its way into legitimate politics and in doing so gets rid of their main ideological opponents such as the Antifa.

This isn't as much the rise of the Right as it is gaining of acceptance of the bigoted right within the legitimate right wing of American politics.

The fascists, the white supremacists, they are becoming more and more accepted and openly vocal among American conservatives.

Last year America asked itself whether Hitler and what he stood for was such a bad thing after all. According to the rising anti Jewish sentiments and pro-nazi talk here on the boards, more than as few decided that maybe he wasn't so bad as people led them to believe, just like others believe the earth is flat and the moon landings didnt happen.

Thing is though, the topic of Nazism is a wee bit more far reaching than weather Nasa staged a moon landing to bluff off the russians during the cold war. It is to do with wether a genocide actually happened and whether, it blows my mind to write it, whether that genocide was actually a justified means to an acceptable end.

A whole bunch of otherwise perfectly reasonable Americans are going NUTS under the pressure of a nation going off the rails :derail:

Not bad intentions, just bad information and a whole lot of pressure.

I'm seeing people say things and defend stuff that they wouldnt have in a million years, just a year of two, three ago.

Statements like "Antifa are the real fascists", wow, you non-psychotics should keep a grip on your shit under pressure.

So.. SJW (derogatory term for people not OK with racism) are the pawns Russia uses to destabilize America was the gist of the topic. I can dig that, but it devolves into bashing the antifa as the source of all evil.
On behalf of the 2008 Shroomery: Wut?

I will never get an Antifa ball bearing in my face. It just won't happen.




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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asante]
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For every modern day nazi you show me I could show you 100 antifa.    Bitching about white supremacy and nazis is laughable behavior.  Every antifa associated idiot I’ve ever met has their head so far up their ass I’d rather befriend a non violent anti Semitic person than some douchebag dressed in all black who thinks they know everything cause they took a college class once.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 1
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Bitching about white supremacy and nazis is laughable behavior? How many people were killed by CNN articles endorsing cuckholding last year?


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
Bitching about white supremacy and nazis is laughable behavior? How many people were killed by CNN articles endorsing cuckholding last year?



Not even remotely relevant lol. Nice try though.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 2
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NOUS333 said:
For every modern day nazi you show me I could show you 100 antifa.    Bitching about white supremacy and nazis is laughable behavior.  Every antifa associated idiot I’ve ever met has their head so far up their ass I’d rather befriend a non violent anti Semitic person than some douchebag dressed in all black who thinks they know everything cause they took a college class once.



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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 6
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NOUS333 said:
For every modern day nazi you show me I could show you 100 antifa.    Bitching about white supremacy and nazis is laughable behavior.  Every antifa associated idiot I’ve ever met has their head so far up their ass I’d rather befriend a non violent anti Semitic person than some douchebag dressed in all black who thinks they know everything cause they took a college class once.






Except that nearly three quarters of all domestic terrorism since 09/12/2001 has been committed by white, far-right extremists, many of them being racists.  If it were true that there is 100 ANTIFA members for every neo-Nazi, it is a huge testament to ANTIFA that not one person has been reported killed by them -- not even one.  And it speaks volumes of your stupidity when you state:



"Every antifa associated idiot I’ve ever met has their head so far up their ass I’d rather befriend a non violent anti Semitic person than some douchebag dressed in all black who thinks they know everything cause they took a college class once."



My great-grandfather was killed by the SS in the gas chambers at Auschwitz; my great-aunt was killed by the Nazis in Prussia; my grandmother was nearly killed by Nazis and forced to hide in the German countryside for her safety.  Even if you disagree with ANTIFA and what they represent -- anti-fascism -- why would you have to befriend an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi or white nationalist?  I cannot reconcile why you would feel compelled to support people whose ideology has led to the deaths of millions upon millions of people, all because you dislike what you perceive to be arrogance on the behalf of "douchebags" that have killed no one.  I cannot reconcile how you draw comparisons between people who support an ideology that led to the death of my own family members, simply because you are inconvenienced by "douchebags" protesting.  So far, a handful of people on this thread have espoused the notion that my family deserved what happened to them, as well as other Jews, because there was something inherently wrong with them.  Unless you are willing to acknowledge the problem with that view, you run the risk of becoming radicalized yourself. 




Contrary to what I've seen many on the right tout about German history, anti-Semitism did not start as a reaction to Jewish Communists running Germany amok in the 1900's.  Anti-Semitism goes back as far as the 16th century, maybe even before then.  When I was a seminary student, I was introduced to the teachings of Martin Luther: a famous German theologian, often referred to as the Father of Protestantism.  In his later writings, it became evident that he adopted the anti-Semitic sentiment of his time.  So, you see, it goes back hundreds and hundreds of years.  Anti-Semitism, much less racism in any form, at first takes a hold that is seemingly inconspicuous.  It starts off as a whisper, behind closed doors, and evolves into people saying: "I'd rather be a friend to a Nazi than an anti-fascist."  Do you see?  No matter what anyone has said to you on this thread, you justify your beliefs more and more to the point of irrational thought.  Furthermore, I have seen your argument that liberals are what turns those on the far-right into Nazis.  That's an absurd thing to say.  If you acknowledge that Nazis are bad, why should you be supportive of them because you dislike ANTIFA?  You rationalized it by alluding to the point that anti-Semitic people are better to associate with.  Before you go saying the left is responsible for your attitude and comments, stop and think about personal responsibility for just a moment.  Only you are responsible for your thoughts, feelings and actions.  No one can force you to adopt an ideology; your resistance to ideals conveyed by liberals on this thread is indicative of that.  So, if you support Nazis, it is your prerogative.  But don't go saying that liberals forced you in the direction.             


How do you not see the insanity in all this?





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Asclepius, thank you for sharing your painful family history with Nazis, you have my respect :hug:

Here is mine.

Nazis put my grandfather in the Arbeitseinsatz, to work as a slave laborer in the Ruhr industrial area while the Allies were bombing the crap out of it, threy beat him regularly within an inch of his life, starved him, worked him near to death, which fucked up my grandfather for life, and his marriage, and the upbringong of his children - my father, uncles and aunts.

Meanwhile my grandmother, my father and siblings were quivering in fear in a bomb shelter they dug in their own back yard when a Nazi soldier though it was fun to throw a hand grenade into the family shelter, to kill them all.

WELL GUESS WHAT!

My Grandma threw herself on the grenade, grabbed it, chucked it right the fuck back to the Nazi blasting him to sauerkraut.

That's how you deal with Nazis.




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my family fled the communist revolution in Russia. they left everything behind and came to Canad with nothing. they were lucky to make it out alive. nazis and leftists have both caused lots of suffering in many of our families, im sure. neither groups should be supported. they are both harmful. its not a competition guys. why not just oppose both?

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