lowbrow said:

musiclover420 said:

I could say the say thing about SWJ's

It's all subjective. There are definitely a lot of neo nazis in some places, as well as similar racist extremists.

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You could say that but you would be wrong.  There is a shitton of sjw's.  The Trump inaguration riots proved that.

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*The point

*Your head

twighead said:

Yo when did you become so vehement about this Shroomism?

You're a pretty level-headed guy.

I've been on university campuses for a good while now on the west coast and have encountered many so called SJW's,

and yes - they can be obnoxious - annoying - and at worst companies can sometimes pressure themselves into making decisions based off of that line of thinking but...

What does it all really matter? I feel like if everyone just threw up their hands and was like "Okay, sure, whatever!" - most almost have no actual meaningful policy they wish to have enacted other than wanting some funny little treatment - it would never reach this level of tone.

What creates hysteria like this is conflict - they saw a problem that was likely a somewhat genuine one- many many years back and reacted to it (think 60-70s era feminism roots) - but it is the reaction to that reaction which has mirrored one another in a big ass cascading reaction within both divergent cultures that has created this gigantic hissyfit on both sides.

When you really boil it down to the core who even cares it's so petty.

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I've always been against this. Only it's become even more distilled in the last few years.

The straw that broke the camel's back for me, was when I was physically assaulted on the beach by some Antifa/SJWs because I was white, while with my 3 year old son.

Who's creating hysteria???? I'm fucking sorry, but when someone is minding their own fucking business, and they get violently attacked because of the color of their skin or whatever, and society at large just goes "OH well you shouldn't have been there.. or you are the one provoking it.. or if you don't respond then it wouldn't get out of control like this" FUCK THAT victim blaming bullshit. The shit is out of control, I don't really care if half of you haven't seen it firsthand, I have. I will fight this shit until it's dead or I am.


If it was the other way around, and there was groups of crazy republicans roaming around in black wearing masks, macing and attacking any liberals they could find in orchestrated attacks across the country, shutting down liberal events and causing riots, and it was virtually fully endorsed by the mass media and police, you people would be UP IN FUCKING ARMS

But because it's a bunch of self-proclaimed leftists, they get a free pass/carte-blanche to do whatever the fuck they want and it gets excused and justified by the media and masses.  I really don't fucking get it.

Oh yeah... it's just a bunch of college idiots that will grow out of it. Except for the fact that many of the leaders of these Antifa/BAM/SJW groups are COLLEGE PROFESSORS.
The Antifa guy that threw a bike lock at a Trump Supporter was a college professor of Ethics and Critical Thinking
Yvette Felarca is a fking middle school teacher, leader of BAM and already has two felonies for assaulting people. She is indoctrinating these kids before high school. This is just a couple examples.
This is not some trivial non-movement that is just going to fizzle out when these people enter the "real world".
Yeah sure, a lot of them will get a taste of reality and probably change their minds/opinions when they discover actual reality, and learn that identity politics and a victimhood mentality doesn't help you at all in most jobs. But that is rapidly changing. I mean there is Buzzfeed, Gawker, Jezebel, Twitter, Vox, Vice, etc etc etc etc.

Running around calling everyone alt-right nazis, just because someone disagrees with you. And then hey... Punch a Nazi!

Yeah let's just normalize blindly labeling people we don't know as genocide supporters, because they have a different opinion than me...... and then support random acts of violence against people we falsely labelled!!! Weeeee
You know where this witchunt mob mentality leads right? The next step is blood in the streets and deaths. Let's not let it get to that level, shall we?
Randomly attacking people because you think they are different, people only put up with it for so long. You start to cause a serious issue and people start to fight back. You keep escalating and escalating and bringing weapons to attack peaceful people, and pretty soon people will start showing up armed and blasting motherfuckers. Then martial law gets declared. We have VERY clear examples of this in history. Look into the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

Maybe you haven't seen the level of insanity from these fucks that I have. But I'm just trying to bring awareness to an important issue. I know.. I know.. fuck me, right?

qman said:

What the hell, you were attacked by some SJW's at the beach for being white while being with your 3 year old son?    Please tell us the story.

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xzylocybin said:

qman said:

What the hell, you were attacked by some SJW's at the beach for being white while being with your 3 year old son?    Please tell us the story.

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Something similar happened in my town, two degenerate antifa types threatened to beat the shit out of a father and his young daughter because he had carharts and a camo style jacket on and a john deere hat, he had to hide in a store until the cops got there to avoid having to shoot them in front of his daughter.

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Shroomism said:

twighead said:

Yo when did you become so vehement about this Shroomism?

You're a pretty level-headed guy.

I've been on university campuses for a good while now on the west coast and have encountered many so called SJW's,

and yes - they can be obnoxious - annoying - and at worst companies can sometimes pressure themselves into making decisions based off of that line of thinking but...

What does it all really matter? I feel like if everyone just threw up their hands and was like "Okay, sure, whatever!" - most almost have no actual meaningful policy they wish to have enacted other than wanting some funny little treatment - it would never reach this level of tone.

What creates hysteria like this is conflict - they saw a problem that was likely a somewhat genuine one- many many years back and reacted to it (think 60-70s era feminism roots) - but it is the reaction to that reaction which has mirrored one another in a big ass cascading reaction within both divergent cultures that has created this gigantic hissyfit on both sides.

When you really boil it down to the core who even cares it's so petty.

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I've always been against this. Only it's become even more distilled in the last few years.

The straw that broke the camel's back for me, was when I was physically assaulted on the beach by some Antifa/SJWs because I was white, while with my 3 year old son.

Who's creating hysteria???? I'm fucking sorry, but when someone is minding their own fucking business, and they get violently attacked because of the color of their skin or whatever, and society at large just goes "OH well you shouldn't have been there.. or you are the one provoking it.. or if you don't respond then it wouldn't get out of control like this" FUCK THAT victim blaming bullshit. The shit is out of control, I don't really care if half of you haven't seen it firsthand, I have. I will fight this shit until it's dead or I am.


If it was the other way around, and there was groups of crazy republicans roaming around in black wearing masks, macing and attacking any liberals they could find in orchestrated attacks across the country, shutting down liberal events and causing riots, and it was virtually fully endorsed by the mass media and police, you people would be UP IN FUCKING ARMS

But because it's a bunch of self-proclaimed leftists, they get a free pass/carte-blanche to do whatever the fuck they want and it gets excused and justified by the media and masses.  I really don't fucking get it.

Oh yeah... it's just a bunch of college idiots that will grow out of it. Except for the fact that many of the leaders of these Antifa/BAM/SJW groups are COLLEGE PROFESSORS.
The Antifa guy that threw a bike lock at a Trump Supporter was a college professor of Ethics and Critical Thinking
Yvette Felarca is a fking middle school teacher, leader of BAM and already has two felonies for assaulting people. She is indoctrinating these kids before high school. This is just a couple examples.
This is not some trivial non-movement that is just going to fizzle out when these people enter the "real world".
Yeah sure, a lot of them will get a taste of reality and probably change their minds/opinions when they discover actual reality, and learn that identity politics and a victimhood mentality doesn't help you at all in most jobs. But that is rapidly changing. I mean there is Buzzfeed, Gawker, Jezebel, Twitter, Vox, Vice, etc etc etc etc.

Running around calling everyone alt-right nazis, just because someone disagrees with you. And then hey... Punch a Nazi!

Yeah let's just normalize blindly labeling people we don't know as genocide supporters, because they have a different opinion than me...... and then support random acts of violence against people we falsely labelled!!! Weeeee
You know where this witchunt mob mentality leads right? The next step is blood in the streets and deaths. Let's not let it get to that level, shall we?
Randomly attacking people because you think they are different, people only put up with it for so long. You start to cause a serious issue and people start to fight back. You keep escalating and escalating and bringing weapons to attack peaceful people, and pretty soon people will start showing up armed and blasting motherfuckers. Then martial law gets declared. We have VERY clear examples of this in history. Look into the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

Maybe you haven't seen the level of insanity from these fucks that I have. But I'm just trying to bring awareness to an important issue. I know.. I know.. fuck me, right?

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I'm not attacking you in any way - I had no clue you were actually assaulted by one of the people that actually takes that shit way too far - that sounds downright fucked up.

I think we were talking about two different issues (and I didn't read the thread so that might be my fault) - I'm completely with you that - 100% against any violence, threats, or coercion used against innocents ... I was more referring to the 97% of SJW type people who are fairly benign in whatever thing they're pushing for (and yes this resembles any other movement - be it Islam - or 'alt-right' ) -- I don't think the vast majority of them support any sort of physical attack on innocents. The some % that do - fuck them. I don't even care what they stand for, fuck them.

I get it more now that I hear you've had personal experience, - and that sucks - but I still think they are a fringe movement. And I grew up around the very headquarters of a fringe (but locally powerful) Aryan Nation movement in a Jewish family in Northern Idaho - Trust me I know what it's like to be on the other end of this shit. - What ran them out.. was cold resistance. The community came to shun them, and close them out from everything - as I feel should be the response to this. If they want to be like this, don't fight it eye for an eye, don't give them a chance to appear in glory or martyrdom to their cause - fight them with denial. Shut them out of the world and they will cease to have any power. People who are on the 'left' side are responding in this manner too - despite there being a grey area amongst some figures... people like Bernie Sanders have been unhesitant to shut down any notion of righteousness behind any violent acts like this. People in my own community - which is both extremely liberal and has an antifa presence, have openly denounced all violence and any who would support it.

koods said:

Meanwhile white supremacists continue murdering people for their political beliefs, ethnicity and religion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/29/suspects-in-five-homicides-reportedly-tied-to-macabre-neo-nazi-group/?utm_term=.0701c396b3e9

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koods said:

Meanwhile white supremacists continue murdering people for their political beliefs, ethnicity and religion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/29/suspects-in-five-homicides-reportedly-tied-to-macabre-neo-nazi-group/?utm_term=.0701c396b3e9

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xzylocybin said:

koods said:

Meanwhile white supremacists continue murdering people for their political beliefs, ethnicity and religion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/29/suspects-in-five-homicides-reportedly-tied-to-macabre-neo-nazi-group/?utm_term=.0701c396b3e9

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Gross, they seem just like antifa but on the other side and more intense. Assholes like this "atomwaffen" only serve to strengthen and embolden the radical left and are just as bad if not worse for the country. I wouldn't be surprised to learn they have the same people pulling their strings.

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Shroomism said:

Keep calling people nazis and demonizing people because of their "white privilege" and then act all surprised some people go ok Fine I'll be an actual Nazi and go complete opposite to them.

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You don't really think people operate like this...do you?

Shroomism said:

Wasn't saying you were attacking me per se.. but I've been attacked countless times on here because of my criticisms against Antifa and their ilk. I get called alt-right all the time because I disavow their bullshit, ok.
The good news, however.. is that people have gotten tired of their shit, and aren't putting up with it anymore.
They are all cowards and only attack when they have a large mob of people against unnarmed people they outnumber, when people start to fight back they tend to run away.
They have gotten less and less lately it seems. The resistance appears to be working. And when the cops are allowed to do their jobs, they don't show up.
I do think you are wrong in one aspect though, it seems to me a majority of left-thinkers, even moderate people these days, seem to think it's ok to "punch a nazi" because the media told them so.
Neo-Nazis may really exist, sure, but they actually ARE a fringe movement, there's what.. a couple hundred, maybe a few thousand.. in the US.. out of 350 million?

The problem is when the mainstream media/college/hollywood all demonize normal people, or people who identify as even slightly republican as nazis/white supremacists, when they are the furthest fucking thing from it. Jordan Peterson has been called an alt-right nazi. Orchestrated smear and slander and character assassination campaigns against people because they have different opinions or opinions which don't perfectly align with leftist ideology. It is MUCH more widespread of a problem then any "white nationalist" movement in the US, which is frankly, a joke.

Funny that Koods brings up Atomwaffen Division.. a radical group that sprung up in 2015 mainly as a response to the radicalization of the left and Antifa and similar groups going unchecked.
That's what they don't seem to understand. This radical leftism and calling everyone nazis, only provokes some people to shift to radical behavior on the opposite end. Keep calling people nazis and demonizing people because of their "white privilege" and then act all surprised some people go ok Fine I'll be an actual Nazi and go complete opposite to them.

I in no fucking way support white nationalists or neo-nazis, fuck those guys just as hard as Antifa. But by the left demonizing everyone who isn't them and playing these identity politics games - they only give them justification and more fuel to exist.

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